http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/06/sfs-parking-experiment-to-test-shoups-traffic-theories/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:39:06 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/06/sfs-parking-experiment-to-test-shoups-traffic-theories/comment-page-1/#comment-3993 Dirty Hippie Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:11:25 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1244#comment-3993 It's interesting to hear this concept actually being pursued, for it was in 2000, when I had a roommate who had a background in city planning, when I was introduced to the idea. At the time that roommate was a strong believer in the idea that the low cost (via the parking stickers) of curbside parking was an insane and unsustainable way of operating, given the high cost of land in S.F. His idea was to actually create more single land, one-way streets to allow for removal of parking and expansion of housing. A bit more extreme than the current proposal but best utilizing the land. Maybe it IS time we decrease out subsidy of the automobile. I know permit prices have gone up since 2000, but so have land costs. It's interesting to hear this concept actually being pursued, for it was in 2000, when I had a roommate who had a background in city planning, when I was introduced to the idea. At the time that roommate was a strong believer in the idea that the low cost (via the parking stickers) of curbside parking was an insane and unsustainable way of operating, given the high cost of land in S.F. His idea was to actually create more single land, one-way streets to allow for removal of parking and expansion of housing. A bit more extreme than the current proposal but best utilizing the land. Maybe it IS time we decrease out subsidy of the automobile. I know permit prices have gone up since 2000, but so have land costs.

]]> http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/06/sfs-parking-experiment-to-test-shoups-traffic-theories/comment-page-1/#comment-3345 Jim F. Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:50:14 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1244#comment-3345 Hopefully this program will increase the turnover rate of parking in shopping areas so that people don't drive around looking for parking. Also, hopefully people will start to see the real cost of parking. In London, long before they started their congestion charge, they began to control all parking (on-street, public/private garages, and home spaces). They began to limit the amount of parking built and charged a market rate for the rest. Luckily, they had a good transit system that afforded people a viable alternative after parking was limited. After years of this, London was fairly ready for the congestion charge we see today. Hopefully this program will increase the turnover rate of parking in shopping areas so that people don't drive around looking for parking. Also, hopefully people will start to see the real cost of parking. In London, long before they started their congestion charge, they began to control all parking (on-street, public/private garages, and home spaces). They began to limit the amount of parking built and charged a market rate for the rest. Luckily, they had a good transit system that afforded people a viable alternative after parking was limited. After years of this, London was fairly ready for the congestion charge we see today.

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