Comments on: Bicycle Signal Priority Green Wave Project Stalled http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:49:25 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: lee http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-5139 lee Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:15:57 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-5139 The new light timing on Valencia between 16th and 25th (?) has been in effect now for a month or two. It creates a green wave in both directions at about 15 miles per hour. I have driven and riden up and down Valencia several times and I'm very pleased! It looks like the green wave doesn't extend north of 15th. As a bicyclist and driver, I would love to see it extended to Market Street. The new light timing on Valencia between 16th and 25th (?) has been in effect now for a month or two. It creates a green wave in both directions at about 15 miles per hour.

I have driven and riden up and down Valencia several times and I'm very pleased!

It looks like the green wave doesn't extend north of 15th. As a bicyclist and driver, I would love to see it extended to Market Street.

]]> By: Jim F. http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3828 Jim F. Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:21:53 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3828 Sounds great to me! 15 mph is pretty fast for a bike but mighty slow for all those impatient drivers. Sounds great to me! 15 mph is pretty fast for a bike but mighty slow for all those impatient drivers.

]]> By: Janel Sterbentz http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3608 Janel Sterbentz Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:34:07 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3608 Right now we just need to do some more preliminary research, and the MTA says they don't have the time or money. If you would like to pressure the MTA saying you would like to see this installed please do contact: the bike program bicycle(at)sfmta.com or call 415.701.4500 Yes Andy from the SFBC is on board and has voiced their support. Right now we just need to do some more preliminary research, and the MTA says they don't have the time or money. If you would like to pressure the MTA saying you would like to see this installed please do contact: the bike program bicycle(at)sfmta.com or call 415.701.4500
Yes Andy from the SFBC is on board and has voiced their support.

]]> By: Jason http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3468 Jason Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:33:12 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3468 How can I help be part of the driving force behind getting this pilot study started? Is the bike coalition involved with this? How can I help be part of the driving force behind getting this pilot study started? Is the bike coalition involved with this?

]]> By: Tom Brown http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3465 Tom Brown Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:57:17 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3465 A green wave on Valencia would be great! I normally ride down it on quiet nights but even with no traffic cars and bikes have to stop about every 5 lights. I'm glad it isn't timed like Fell or Oak which are not fun when there are enough cars for them to be aggressive with each other but not enough that they come to a halt. 12mph is a nice social pace but I don't know if a wave at that speed will do much to slow down the reckless few who seem to ignore lights. I've seen too many scary near accidents on Valencia but the blame goes to a mix of cars, bikes and pedestrians. :-( A couple math nit-picks: "increases ... speeds .... by as much as 3 ½ minutes" mixes units and http://laboratorium.net/archive/2006/06/24/todays_usage_gripe_exponentially A green wave on Valencia would be great! I normally ride down it on quiet nights but even with no traffic cars and bikes have to stop about every 5 lights. I'm glad it isn't timed like Fell or Oak which are not fun when there are enough cars for them to be aggressive with each other but not enough that they come to a halt.

12mph is a nice social pace but I don't know if a wave at that speed will do much to slow down the reckless few who seem to ignore lights. I've seen too many scary near accidents on Valencia but the blame goes to a mix of cars, bikes and pedestrians. :-(

A couple math nit-picks: "increases ... speeds .... by as much as 3 ½ minutes" mixes units and http://laboratorium.net/archive/2006/06/24/todays_usage_gripe_exponentially

]]> By: Hilary http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3456 Hilary Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:03:40 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3456 How about Howard St? I find the same problem there too. How about Howard St? I find the same problem there too.

]]> By: Clarence Eckerson Jr. http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3260 Clarence Eckerson Jr. Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:01:39 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3260 Word on getting this up and running. Word on getting this up and running.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3188 Jeffrey W. Baker Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:27:38 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3188 Brooke: as the DPW amply demonstrates every year during Oracle Open World, changing signal timing is extremely easy and cheap. The only thing lacking is the executive will to act. Brooke: as the DPW amply demonstrates every year during Oracle Open World, changing signal timing is extremely easy and cheap. The only thing lacking is the executive will to act.

]]> By: bc http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3186 bc Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:40:08 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3186 Having lived in Copenhagen for a year before moving back to the Bay, their incredible bike infrastructure is something I dearly miss. You'd think San Francisco would be a bit more forward thinking with its public transit and bike programs. However, Portland continues to trump us. One can only wish ... Having lived in Copenhagen for a year before moving back to the Bay, their incredible bike infrastructure is something I dearly miss. You'd think San Francisco would be a bit more forward thinking with its public transit and bike programs. However, Portland continues to trump us.

One can only wish ...

]]> By: Chris http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3181 Chris Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:27:19 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3181 Awesome article, very informative. I hope the SFMTA can find the funds for this cause that would be great. Nice job on proposing it to them. Awesome article, very informative. I hope the SFMTA can find the funds for this cause that would be great. Nice job on proposing it to them.

]]> By: Brooke http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/15/bicycle-signal-priority-%e2%80%9cgreen-wave%e2%80%9d-project-stalled/comment-page-1/#comment-3180 Brooke Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:13:35 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1312#comment-3180 How much funding is actually needed to do a signal timing change on a trial basis? How much funding is actually needed to do a signal timing change on a trial basis?

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