Comments on: Eyes on the Street: DIY Street Furniture Enlivens Potrero Hill Street http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/23/eyes-on-the-street-diy-street-furniture-enlivens-potrero-hill-street/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Josh http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/23/eyes-on-the-street-diy-street-furniture-enlivens-potrero-hill-street/comment-page-1/#comment-3321 Josh Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:02:01 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1361#comment-3321 Also, post-TEP the 33 will be re-routed off of Potrero Ave, taking much of the route that the 22 now runs after it turns off 16th. Also, post-TEP the 33 will be re-routed off of Potrero Ave, taking much of the route that the 22 now runs after it turns off 16th.

]]> By: Wai Yip Tung http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/23/eyes-on-the-street-diy-street-furniture-enlivens-potrero-hill-street/comment-page-1/#comment-3320 Wai Yip Tung Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:16:36 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1361#comment-3320 I saw those benches emerge and I've just taken it for granted. They are really nice addition to the street. Thank you to the merchants and thanks for writing a story about it. Jeffrey, 3 blocks from 22 is nothing. I walk all the way from the top to the bottom of the hill to catch T-third sometimes. What I really look forward from the TEP is the new 12 line that connects Potrero hill to downtown and Chinatown. Believe it or not there is no simple transit to downtown at the moment. Before I'd take 15 sometimes. Now even this option is gone. I saw those benches emerge and I’ve just taken it for granted. They are really nice addition to the street. Thank you to the merchants and thanks for writing a story about it.

Jeffrey, 3 blocks from 22 is nothing. I walk all the way from the top to the bottom of the hill to catch T-third sometimes. What I really look forward from the TEP is the new 12 line that connects Potrero hill to downtown and Chinatown. Believe it or not there is no simple transit to downtown at the moment. Before I’d take 15 sometimes. Now even this option is gone.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/23/eyes-on-the-street-diy-street-furniture-enlivens-potrero-hill-street/comment-page-1/#comment-3303 Jeffrey W. Baker Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:02:00 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1361#comment-3303 Justin I'd be interested in a local's report on Potrero Hill post-TEP. I get to 18th St. on the 22-Fillmore, and I gather from the TEP that they are going to just run the 22 down 16th all the way to 3rd instead of running it up the hill. That would mean that I would have to walk three blocks and 100' up the hill to get to Farley's. Doesn't seem like an improvement to me. Justin I’d be interested in a local’s report on Potrero Hill post-TEP. I get to 18th St. on the 22-Fillmore, and I gather from the TEP that they are going to just run the 22 down 16th all the way to 3rd instead of running it up the hill. That would mean that I would have to walk three blocks and 100′ up the hill to get to Farley’s. Doesn’t seem like an improvement to me.

]]> By: Justin Eichenlaub http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/01/23/eyes-on-the-street-diy-street-furniture-enlivens-potrero-hill-street/comment-page-1/#comment-3296 Justin Eichenlaub Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:28:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1361#comment-3296 This is a great stretch of Potrero Hill. I live in Potrero and I think it is a pretty interesting case for liveable streets issues in the city. The neighborhood (the whole hill) is incredibly close to the most central and dense districts of the city. It has a great grocery store on 20th st (Good Life Grocery), ample convenience & liquor (eh hem make that *wine* stores), etc, but it is one of the most car-tastic neighborhoods in the city. Blame this on a number of factors--a wide-open suburban layout, wide streets, many parallel parked streets, and of course the steepness of the hill itself. In some ways, it is similar to Nob Hill, Russian Hill, hell maybe even Pacific Heights--but unlike those neighborhoods we have more space for cars and a reputation for being 'underserved' by transit, a charge I'm not so sure about--I use the 19, 48, and 53 daily (often in conjunction with my bike). MUNI's TEP review has determined that the 53 will be cut entirely, even though its already bare-bones schedule does serve a sizeable number of Potrero Hill public housing residents and school kids going to the International School. The 12 will be re-routed to come up and over the hill and make a more direct connection with 4th and King and the fidi, and I'm curious if that will make a difference for the homeowners and private tenants of Potrero Hill who by and large are definitely not taking the bus or biking in favor of driving. Would be great to see a report on Potrero at some point in the future, I for one think it's an interesting case/issue in SF. -J This is a great stretch of Potrero Hill. I live in Potrero and I think it is a pretty interesting case for liveable streets issues in the city. The neighborhood (the whole hill) is incredibly close to the most central and dense districts of the city. It has a great grocery store on 20th st (Good Life Grocery), ample convenience & liquor (eh hem make that *wine* stores), etc, but it is one of the most car-tastic neighborhoods in the city.

Blame this on a number of factors–a wide-open suburban layout, wide streets, many parallel parked streets, and of course the steepness of the hill itself. In some ways, it is similar to Nob Hill, Russian Hill, hell maybe even Pacific Heights–but unlike those neighborhoods we have more space for cars and a reputation for being ‘underserved’ by transit, a charge I’m not so sure about–I use the 19, 48, and 53 daily (often in conjunction with my bike). MUNI’s TEP review has determined that the 53 will be cut entirely, even though its already bare-bones schedule does serve a sizeable number of Potrero Hill public housing residents and school kids going to the International School. The 12 will be re-routed to come up and over the hill and make a more direct connection with 4th and King and the fidi, and I’m curious if that will make a difference for the homeowners and private tenants of Potrero Hill who by and large are definitely not taking the bus or biking in favor of driving.

Would be great to see a report on Potrero at some point in the future, I for one think it’s an interesting case/issue in SF.

-J

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