Comments on: Did the Chronicle Forget SF Has a Transit-First Policy? http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bob http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3977 bob Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:58:24 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1664#comment-3977 The Chronicle will be missed. At least the movie review chair guy will be. The Chronicle will be missed. At least the movie review chair guy will be.

]]> By: marcos http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3975 marcos Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:36:52 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1664#comment-3975 SInce when has the Chronicle been in the business of reflecting the concerns of all San Franciscans? If that had been the case, then the tired old rag would not be facing economic Armageddon right now. But since it has been used as a cudgel with which the business community attacks those who do not agree with them politically, that dissonance has caused folks to vote with our wallets and abandon the Chronicle in droves. Just a quick glance at the Chronicle's terrible record of electoral success at getting San Franciscans to vote their endorsements shows that they do not come close to reflecting the views of all San Franciscans. The job of a newspaper is to sell readers to advertisers. Auto dealerships advertise in the Chronicle all the time, the MUNI rarely if ever. As they say in Texas, y'all daincing with them what brung ya. And why does the Chronicle's Green Blog (TM) stand by idly while Newsom governs by press releases that pronounce policies that never get enacted and end up in political landfills? -marc SInce when has the Chronicle been in the business of reflecting the concerns of all San Franciscans?

If that had been the case, then the tired old rag would not be facing economic Armageddon right now. But since it has been used as a cudgel with which the business community attacks those who do not agree with them politically, that dissonance has caused folks to vote with our wallets and abandon the Chronicle in droves.

Just a quick glance at the Chronicle’s terrible record of electoral success at getting San Franciscans to vote their endorsements shows that they do not come close to reflecting the views of all San Franciscans.

The job of a newspaper is to sell readers to advertisers. Auto dealerships advertise in the Chronicle all the time, the MUNI rarely if ever. As they say in Texas, y’all daincing with them what brung ya.

And why does the Chronicle’s Green Blog (TM) stand by idly while Newsom governs by press releases that pronounce policies that never get enacted and end up in political landfills?

-marc

]]> By: CBrinkman http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3974 CBrinkman Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:30:29 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1664#comment-3974 "Because the newspapers job, unlike Streetsblog's, is not to push for more transit- and pedestrian-friendly streets" That's for sure. I like the Thin Green Line blog, Cameron - you do a good job on it. But I do think the Chron overall takes a very irresponsible position towards covering transportation in SF. I've always assumed it is because few of the people who cover the City live in the City. Any idea how the numbers break down for Chron employees, City versus non, drivers vs public transit/walk/bike? The downtown bldg I work in did a survey and 98% get to work not in a private auto. (Only 1% bike.) “Because the newspapers job, unlike Streetsblog’s, is not to push for more transit- and pedestrian-friendly streets”

That’s for sure. I like the Thin Green Line blog, Cameron – you do a good job on it. But I do think the Chron overall takes a very irresponsible position towards covering transportation in SF. I’ve always assumed it is because few of the people who cover the City live in the City. Any idea how the numbers break down for Chron employees, City versus non, drivers vs public transit/walk/bike? The downtown bldg I work in did a survey and 98% get to work not in a private auto. (Only 1% bike.)

]]> By: Cameron Scott http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3961 Cameron Scott Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:56:44 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1664#comment-3961 I write the Chronicle's green blog, The Thin Green Line (http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/thingreenline), and I've linked to SFStreetsblog several times. I agree that this article should have cited the transit first policy. But I don't think it should have ignored the frustrations of drivers. Why? Because the newspapers job, unlike Streetsblog's, is not to push for more transit- and pedestrian-friendly streets. It is to reflect the concerns of ALL SF residents, many of whom are drivers. On my blog, I take the position that drivers are just people for whom transit hasn't become convenient enough yet. I write the Chronicle’s green blog, The Thin Green Line (http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/thingreenline), and I’ve linked to SFStreetsblog several times. I agree that this article should have cited the transit first policy. But I don’t think it should have ignored the frustrations of drivers. Why? Because the newspapers job, unlike Streetsblog’s, is not to push for more transit- and pedestrian-friendly streets. It is to reflect the concerns of ALL SF residents, many of whom are drivers. On my blog, I take the position that drivers are just people for whom transit hasn’t become convenient enough yet.

]]> By: CBrinkman http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3958 CBrinkman Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:09:41 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1664#comment-3958 Poor SF Chron. Soon they will be publishing a Chron Watch to get the pesky pedestrians out of the way of drivers at ALL intersections. I love the 33, and that is one of the best bus views in the City - I used to ride the 33 at least once per week and there was rarely any kind of delay - the bus pulls right through the intersection while the cars wait. What's the problem with that? Transit First. Poor SF Chron. Soon they will be publishing a Chron Watch to get the pesky pedestrians out of the way of drivers at ALL intersections. I love the 33, and that is one of the best bus views in the City – I used to ride the 33 at least once per week and there was rarely any kind of delay – the bus pulls right through the intersection while the cars wait. What’s the problem with that? Transit First.

]]> By: Mark Brunson http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3949 Mark Brunson Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:02:48 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1664#comment-3949 Drivers are complaining about delays at this intersection? It hardly takes any time for the actual turn to happen. The real delay comes from the times that the driver has to pull over because the poles came off the electric wires. Drivers are complaining about delays at this intersection? It hardly takes any time for the actual turn to happen. The real delay comes from the times that the driver has to pull over because the poles came off the electric wires.

]]> By: megan allison http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/03/did-the-chronicle-forget-sf-has-a-transit-first-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-3946 megan allison Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:38:21 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=1664#comment-3946 Totally agreed with the other regular 33 rider: that turnaround is remarkably short. Too much so in certain circumstances, since it's one of the city's best-kept tourist secrets: it's free access to a remarkable view. If the city knew what was good for them, revenue-wise, they'd be sending tourists on a 33 tour; lunch at Tartine, frozen margaritas at Moby Dick, spectacular view at Market & Clayton (ooh! aah!), express service to Haight-Ashbury! But seriously, drivers at Market and Clayton are the epitome of "needs of the few" especially while they're sitting directly on top of the twin peaks tunnel. Totally agreed with the other regular 33 rider: that turnaround is remarkably short. Too much so in certain circumstances, since it’s one of the city’s best-kept tourist secrets: it’s free access to a remarkable view. If the city knew what was good for them, revenue-wise, they’d be sending tourists on a 33 tour; lunch at Tartine, frozen margaritas at Moby Dick, spectacular view at Market & Clayton (ooh! aah!), express service to Haight-Ashbury!

But seriously, drivers at Market and Clayton are the epitome of “needs of the few” especially while they’re sitting directly on top of the twin peaks tunnel.

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