Comments on: Supervisor Avalos Would Like to See Public Bike Pump Stations in SF http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MBrandt http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5583 MBrandt Tue, 19 May 2009 00:35:39 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5583 In the EU the ICE rail goes thru backyards without fences, no problems.. Perhaps we can get public pumps going.. I would encourage more private pumps.. let's see how they do. But if we are going with public monies let's build things like pumps around public racks and safe places for the investment. In the EU the ICE rail goes thru backyards without fences, no problems..

Perhaps we can get public pumps going.. I would encourage more private pumps.. let’s see how they do. But if we are going with public monies let’s build things like pumps around public racks and safe places for the investment.

]]> By: Rolf Scholtz http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5575 Rolf Scholtz Mon, 18 May 2009 20:12:11 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5575 I know we aren't supposed to use this blog for commercial purposes, but I was reading through this posting and think this is pertinent to the conversation string; we (Dero) do make a bike rack pump add-on and a Fixit Kiosk that are made right here in USA. The Fixit incorporates a repair stand, has some basic bike tools and an air pump. The Air-kit allows you to turn any-old bike rack into an air-pump station. You can view it at www.dero.com/products/fixit/ and www.dero.com/products/air-kit/ I know we aren’t supposed to use this blog for commercial purposes, but I was reading through this posting and think this is pertinent to the conversation string; we (Dero) do make a bike rack pump add-on and a Fixit Kiosk that are made right here in USA. The Fixit incorporates a repair stand, has some basic bike tools and an air pump. The Air-kit allows you to turn any-old bike rack into an air-pump station. You can view it at http://www.dero.com/products/fixit/ and http://www.dero.com/products/air-kit/

]]> By: Ian http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5559 Ian Sat, 16 May 2009 07:13:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5559 Pumps/bike racks around the city would be brilliant. That being said, carry a mini pump, patch kit, mini tool kit and tire lever...problem solved. Pumps/bike racks around the city would be brilliant. That being said, carry a mini pump, patch kit, mini tool kit and tire lever…problem solved.

]]> By: bmtea http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5557 bmtea Sat, 16 May 2009 05:06:09 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5557 As a resident of District 11 (Avalos' district) and a bike enthusiast, I think this is a cute idea, but I'd like the BOS to tackle real issues. Avalos' district is a traffic nightmare, in many ways more so than downtown. Cars, cars, cars everywhere, cars in the streets, cars at the curb, cars on the sidewalk and nobody seemingly has the balls to do something about it. As a resident of District 11 (Avalos’ district) and a bike enthusiast, I think this is a cute idea, but I’d like the BOS to tackle real issues. Avalos’ district is a traffic nightmare, in many ways more so than downtown. Cars, cars, cars everywhere, cars in the streets, cars at the curb, cars on the sidewalk and nobody seemingly has the balls to do something about it.

]]> By: Peter Smith http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5552 Peter Smith Sat, 16 May 2009 03:17:49 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5552 seriously, though, what's wrong with you haters? it's a good idea. jump on board. i'm the most negative person in the world, but damn...hating on bike pumps made available so people can, you know, use them -- that's something to be hated on? shoot. we're not talking about BRT, here. say, "Yes. Please. Thank you." and move on. it's not rocket science. seriously, though, what’s wrong with you haters? it’s a good idea. jump on board.

i’m the most negative person in the world, but damn…hating on bike pumps made available so people can, you know, use them — that’s something to be hated on?

shoot. we’re not talking about BRT, here. say, “Yes. Please. Thank you.” and move on. it’s not rocket science.

]]> By: Adam B http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5548 Adam B Fri, 15 May 2009 23:03:55 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5548 Yo Jason F. Riding a bike with a back pack on or saddle bags Mad Max style just to haul a bike pump and fix-a-flat sucks! Riding a bike pack-less, with out a care in the world similar to when you were 10 years old is the best. Don't hate, motivate! Yo Jason F. Riding a bike with a back pack on or saddle bags Mad Max style just to haul a bike pump and fix-a-flat sucks! Riding a bike pack-less, with out a care in the world similar to when you were 10 years old is the best. Don’t hate, motivate!

]]> By: marcos http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5543 marcos Fri, 15 May 2009 20:26:38 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5543 And the band played on. -marc And the band played on.

-marc

]]> By: David http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5542 David Fri, 15 May 2009 20:20:27 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5542 I think that flat maintenance is everyone's personal responsibility (see fig a: http://www.flickr.com/photos/vsgoliath/3258923812/) However, public bike pumps, especially when coupled with new racks, would go a long way towards visibility and promoting the bicycle for everyday transportation. I think that flat maintenance is everyone’s personal responsibility (see fig a: http://www.flickr.com/photos/vsgoliath/3258923812/) However, public bike pumps, especially when coupled with new racks, would go a long way towards visibility and promoting the bicycle for everyday transportation.

]]> By: DaveO http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5540 DaveO Fri, 15 May 2009 20:00:41 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5540 This is a fine idea. But why wait for the government to get involved? You could easily work out arrangements with property owners along well-travelled bike routes and also work with bike shop owners or bicycle sporting goods manufactors to drum up sponsorship in exchange for advertising on the handles. This is a fine idea. But why wait for the government to get involved? You could easily work out arrangements with property owners along well-travelled bike routes and also work with bike shop owners or bicycle sporting goods manufactors to drum up sponsorship in exchange for advertising on the handles.

]]> By: marcos http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5539 marcos Fri, 15 May 2009 19:52:57 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5539 P.S. I hate everything. -marc P.S. I hate everything.

-marc

]]> By: John Murphy http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5538 John Murphy Fri, 15 May 2009 19:51:41 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5538 This is at best a distraction. I can carry a pump, I can't carry a bike rack (and there were NONE on West Portal Ave when I went there for dinner last night). Anyone have info on the goings on at the Public Hearing on Bike Lanes? This is at best a distraction. I can carry a pump, I can’t carry a bike rack (and there were NONE on West Portal Ave when I went there for dinner last night).

Anyone have info on the goings on at the Public Hearing on Bike Lanes?

]]> By: marcos http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5536 marcos Fri, 15 May 2009 19:33:53 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5536 One is left but to wonder why previous bicycle plans were not allowed to include such innovative suggestions as proposed by Supervisor Avalos. Unless you're me, of course, and saw the MTA and SFBC take proactive steps to limit public participation in the crafting of the policy document of the plan. Nobody is yet talking about Bike Planning 2.0, what went wrong with the previous Bike Plan process and how to make it better. It is up to the Bicycle Advisory Committee to ensure that there is a public process in place that can keep staff's worst inclinations in check, and prevent a private corporation from dominating the content of the bicycle plan by dominating the process. -marc One is left but to wonder why previous bicycle plans were not allowed to include such innovative suggestions as proposed by Supervisor Avalos.

Unless you’re me, of course, and saw the MTA and SFBC take proactive steps to limit public participation in the crafting of the policy document of the plan.

Nobody is yet talking about Bike Planning 2.0, what went wrong with the previous Bike Plan process and how to make it better.

It is up to the Bicycle Advisory Committee to ensure that there is a public process in place that can keep staff’s worst inclinations in check, and prevent a private corporation from dominating the content of the bicycle plan by dominating the process.

-marc

]]> By: peter chu http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5535 peter chu Fri, 15 May 2009 19:26:20 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5535 I believe Roaring Mouse on Irving and SF Cyclery on Stanyan both have floor pumps available outside the shop. Roaring Mouse's pump is chained to a bike rack and available afterhours by reaching through the gate. SF Cyclery had a similar setup, but I'm not certain about afterhours availability. Similar to "guerilla gardening", you could lock a bike pump outside for public use. I believe Roaring Mouse on Irving and SF Cyclery on Stanyan both have floor pumps available outside the shop. Roaring Mouse’s pump is chained to a bike rack and available afterhours by reaching through the gate. SF Cyclery had a similar setup, but I’m not certain about afterhours availability.

Similar to “guerilla gardening”, you could lock a bike pump outside for public use.

]]> By: Rachael http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5534 Rachael Fri, 15 May 2009 19:16:05 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5534 Honestly, it would be neat. But ... there is so many more transit related projects (for cyclists and bus riders and pedestrians!) that diverting attention to this seems silly. The MTA is going to be tight (in manpower and money) no matter how the budget situation goes. And really the issue of a flat even if you don't have a pump is pretty trivial: just walk or get on the bus. The city isn't that big really. Perhaps if they chose the special bike rack with pump when installing some of the new bike racks (which hopefully they will be able to do soon!) But it really shouldn't be anything to spend much energy on. There are bigger fish to fry. Honestly, it would be neat. But … there is so many more transit related projects (for cyclists and bus riders and pedestrians!) that diverting attention to this seems silly. The MTA is going to be tight (in manpower and money) no matter how the budget situation goes. And really the issue of a flat even if you don’t have a pump is pretty trivial: just walk or get on the bus. The city isn’t that big really.

Perhaps if they chose the special bike rack with pump when installing some of the new bike racks (which hopefully they will be able to do soon!) But it really shouldn’t be anything to spend much energy on. There are bigger fish to fry.

]]> By: Nick http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5533 Nick Fri, 15 May 2009 19:01:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5533 This doesn't necesarily have to be government mandated. Quite a few bike shops leave a floor pump locked up outside next to their bike racks as a public service. A few phone calls to shop owners could have all of them doing this overnight. As a practical issue, you can always ask a passing cyclist if you could borrow their pump for a minute. This doesn’t necesarily have to be government mandated. Quite a few bike shops leave a floor pump locked up outside next to their bike racks as a public service. A few phone calls to shop owners could have all of them doing this overnight.

As a practical issue, you can always ask a passing cyclist if you could borrow their pump for a minute.

]]> By: peter chu http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5531 peter chu Fri, 15 May 2009 18:35:30 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5531 I feel downtown SF needs some form of safe secure bike parking. The high risk of bike theft in this area is a significant deterrent to bike use in the area. As a job and retail center, and with improving bike lanes/pavement quality, safe secure parking is a missing bike infrastructure piece. I feel downtown SF needs some form of safe secure bike parking. The high risk of bike theft in this area is a significant deterrent to bike use in the area. As a job and retail center, and with improving bike lanes/pavement quality, safe secure parking is a missing bike infrastructure piece.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5530 Jeffrey W. Baker Fri, 15 May 2009 18:31:47 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5530 But also echoing what Jason F says, part of the joy of biking is a flat tire or other mechanical problem isn't the end of the world. Even if you can't air it up, or fix it, you can just hop off and walk, either all the way to your destination or to the nearest Muni bus stop. But also echoing what Jason F says, part of the joy of biking is a flat tire or other mechanical problem isn’t the end of the world. Even if you can’t air it up, or fix it, you can just hop off and walk, either all the way to your destination or to the nearest Muni bus stop.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5529 Jeffrey W. Baker Fri, 15 May 2009 18:30:48 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5529 I like the idea of public pumps and would encourage building owners to install them where it makes sense. For example, perhaps one at Mint Plaza by that nice bike rack? I like the idea of public pumps and would encourage building owners to install them where it makes sense. For example, perhaps one at Mint Plaza by that nice bike rack?

]]> By: Jason F http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5528 Jason F Fri, 15 May 2009 18:20:29 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5528 First off - you shouldn't be using gas station air pumps for your bicycle. They are designed for high volume tyres of cars, not your bike. Also, if you are biking around the city (or anywhere), you should know how to fix a flat, carry the correct tools and parts. Part of biking. You don't run out of gas in a car then complain that there isn't a gas station right there, do you? Probably not the best analogy, but it's pretty much the same thing. I would vote against this and would rather put the money into safer streets for cyclists. First off – you shouldn’t be using gas station air pumps for your bicycle. They are designed for high volume tyres of cars, not your bike.

Also, if you are biking around the city (or anywhere), you should know how to fix a flat, carry the correct tools and parts. Part of biking. You don’t run out of gas in a car then complain that there isn’t a gas station right there, do you? Probably not the best analogy, but it’s pretty much the same thing.

I would vote against this and would rather put the money into safer streets for cyclists.

]]> By: rhonda winter http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/15/supervisor-avalos-would-like-to-see-public-bike-pump-stations-in-sf/comment-page-1/#comment-5527 rhonda winter Fri, 15 May 2009 18:03:30 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2182#comment-5527 This is an excellent and much needed idea. I especially like the idea of pumps being incorporated into bike racks. The only public bike pump that I know of in SF is in front of Southern Exposure on 14th Street: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhondawinter/2469259927/ This is an excellent and much needed idea. I especially like the idea of pumps being incorporated into bike racks. The only public bike pump that I know of in SF is in front of Southern Exposure on 14th Street: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhondawinter/2469259927/

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