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	<title>Comments on: Supes Delay Action on Motion to Reject MTA Budget</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/19/supes-delay-action-on-motion-to-reject-mta-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-5728</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@marcos

Maybe the next structural reform of the MTA ought to include mandatory standardized testing on the language of the Charter:

&quot;New transportation investment should be allocated to meet the demand for:
(a)Private autos
(b)MTA board members
(c)public transit&quot;

The answer is always (c)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@marcos</p>
<p>Maybe the next structural reform of the MTA ought to include mandatory standardized testing on the language of the Charter:</p>
<p>"New transportation investment should be allocated to meet the demand for:<br />
(a)Private autos<br />
(b)MTA board members<br />
(c)public transit"</p>
<p>The answer is always (c)</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh, the City ignores laws and charter all the time.  Section 101.1 of the Planning Code is one good example:  http://www.municode.com/content/4201/14139/HTML/ch001.html


And, of course, my favorite from the Charter:

SEC. 8A.109. ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE.

(a) To the extent allowed by law, the Board of Supervisors may, by ordinance, dedicate to the Agency revenues from sources such as gas taxes, motor vehicle licensing taxes or other available motor vehicle-related revenue sources.

(b) The Mayor, the Board of Supervisors, and the Agency diligently shall seek to develop new sources of funding for the Agency&#039;s operations, including sources of funding dedicated to the support of such operations, which can be used to supplement or replace that portion of the Municipal Transportation Fund consisting of appropriations from the General Fund of the City and County. Unless prohibited by preemptive state law, the Agency may submit any proposal for increased or reallocated funding to support all or a portion of the operations of the Agency, including, without limitation, a tax or special assessment directly to the electorate for approval, or to the owners of property or businesses to be specially assessed, or to any other persons or entities whose approval may be legally required, without the further approval of the Mayor or the Board of Supervisors. The Agency shall be authorized to conduct any necessary studies in connection with considering, developing, or proposing such revenue sources.

-marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh, the City ignores laws and charter all the time.  Section 101.1 of the Planning Code is one good example:  <a href="http://www.municode.com/content/4201/14139/HTML/ch001.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.municode.com/content/4201/14139/HTML/ch001.html</a></p>
<p>And, of course, my favorite from the Charter:</p>
<p>SEC. 8A.109. ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE.</p>
<p>(a) To the extent allowed by law, the Board of Supervisors may, by ordinance, dedicate to the Agency revenues from sources such as gas taxes, motor vehicle licensing taxes or other available motor vehicle-related revenue sources.</p>
<p>(b) The Mayor, the Board of Supervisors, and the Agency diligently shall seek to develop new sources of funding for the Agency's operations, including sources of funding dedicated to the support of such operations, which can be used to supplement or replace that portion of the Municipal Transportation Fund consisting of appropriations from the General Fund of the City and County. Unless prohibited by preemptive state law, the Agency may submit any proposal for increased or reallocated funding to support all or a portion of the operations of the Agency, including, without limitation, a tax or special assessment directly to the electorate for approval, or to the owners of property or businesses to be specially assessed, or to any other persons or entities whose approval may be legally required, without the further approval of the Mayor or the Board of Supervisors. The Agency shall be authorized to conduct any necessary studies in connection with considering, developing, or proposing such revenue sources.</p>
<p>-marc</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/19/supes-delay-action-on-motion-to-reject-mta-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-5668</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our historic lack of investment in public transit has left us far behind our more urbane European (and Asian) peers. His solution? Promote an MTA budget that further disinvests in public transit. Whatever, Bevan...&quot;

This comes up again and again and is rarely pointed out, thank you Mr. Radulovich.

It&#039;s extremely frustrating (if not surprising) that this debate has been so skewed toward the interests of motorists.  Our City Charter mandates that decisions like these be made in the interests of pedestrians, bicyclists and transit riders, not cars (Section 8A.115):

&quot;7. Parking policies for areas well served by public transit shall be designed to encourage travel by public transit and alternative transportation.

8. New transportation investment should be allocated to meet the demand for public transit generated by new public and private commercial and residential developments.

9. The ability of the City and County to reduce traffic congestion depends on the adequacy of regional public transportation. The City and County shall promote the use of regional mass transit and the continued development of an integrated, reliable, regional public transportation system.&quot;

The Charter is analogous to our Constitution as a city.  This decision has already been made, it ought not to be a matter of finding the political will to touch the &#039;third rail.&#039;

The current budget is in violation of the City Charter, and the Supes &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; reject it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Our historic lack of investment in public transit has left us far behind our more urbane European (and Asian) peers. His solution? Promote an MTA budget that further disinvests in public transit. Whatever, Bevan..."</p>
<p>This comes up again and again and is rarely pointed out, thank you Mr. Radulovich.</p>
<p>It's extremely frustrating (if not surprising) that this debate has been so skewed toward the interests of motorists.  Our City Charter mandates that decisions like these be made in the interests of pedestrians, bicyclists and transit riders, not cars (Section 8A.115):</p>
<p>"7. Parking policies for areas well served by public transit shall be designed to encourage travel by public transit and alternative transportation.</p>
<p>8. New transportation investment should be allocated to meet the demand for public transit generated by new public and private commercial and residential developments.</p>
<p>9. The ability of the City and County to reduce traffic congestion depends on the adequacy of regional public transportation. The City and County shall promote the use of regional mass transit and the continued development of an integrated, reliable, regional public transportation system."</p>
<p>The Charter is analogous to our Constitution as a city.  This decision has already been made, it ought not to be a matter of finding the political will to touch the 'third rail.'</p>
<p>The current budget is in violation of the City Charter, and the Supes <i>must</i> reject it.</p>
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		<title>By: tom Radulovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom Radulovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All in all an encouraging outcome. I glad to see how Supervisor Maxwell has listened to the arguments, and is coming around to the idea that better management of on-street parking can generate needed revenue – while creating more parking availability to the merchants who depend on parking turnover.

Alas, Supervisor Dufty brought little but tortured logic to the discussion. Our historic lack of investment in public transit has left us far behind our more urbane European (and Asian) peers. His solution? Promote an MTA budget that further disinvests in public transit. Whatever, Bevan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All in all an encouraging outcome. I glad to see how Supervisor Maxwell has listened to the arguments, and is coming around to the idea that better management of on-street parking can generate needed revenue – while creating more parking availability to the merchants who depend on parking turnover.</p>
<p>Alas, Supervisor Dufty brought little but tortured logic to the discussion. Our historic lack of investment in public transit has left us far behind our more urbane European (and Asian) peers. His solution? Promote an MTA budget that further disinvests in public transit. Whatever, Bevan...</p>
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		<title>By: CBrinkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CBrinkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think that there&#039;s a different feeling on moving forward on revenue from parking that didn&#039;t exist before. We have the Chamber of Commerce, which is actually supportive of Sunday and evening parking metering and enforcement,&quot;

Sounds like the Chamber of Commerce already read Donald Shoup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I think that there's a different feeling on moving forward on revenue from parking that didn't exist before. We have the Chamber of Commerce, which is actually supportive of Sunday and evening parking metering and enforcement,"</p>
<p>Sounds like the Chamber of Commerce already read Donald Shoup.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone call Donald Shoup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone call Donald Shoup</p>
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		<title>By: SfResident</title>
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		<dc:creator>SfResident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big props to supervisor Maxwell who voted for this delay and expressed a change of heart regarding parking meters and such. The city deserves a better budget.

@Marcos: I&#039;ll buy you a round of drinks if we see an MOA before this budget comes up for a vote. I just don&#039;t see it happening. .  .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big props to supervisor Maxwell who voted for this delay and expressed a change of heart regarding parking meters and such. The city deserves a better budget.</p>
<p>@Marcos: I'll buy you a round of drinks if we see an MOA before this budget comes up for a vote. I just don't see it happening. .  .</p>
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		<title>By: theo</title>
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		<dc:creator>theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 03:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no right to park your car overnight in a commercial zone.

That&#039;s one of the major problems with places like Polk Gulch, the Haight, and the Mission. People get off work, get home at 6 or 8, and dump their cars in metered spaces. Meanwhile, no one who wants to go to a restaurant or club can find parking. It&#039;s one of the reasons the Haight is so derelict at night.

8 PM would be a good start. 10 PM would be better. Both would massively decrease congestion while also being good for business.

Although I&#039;d also like to see it implemented with sensitivity to local parking conditions; I hope Ford&#039;s ready to take on that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's no right to park your car overnight in a commercial zone.</p>
<p>That's one of the major problems with places like Polk Gulch, the Haight, and the Mission. People get off work, get home at 6 or 8, and dump their cars in metered spaces. Meanwhile, no one who wants to go to a restaurant or club can find parking. It's one of the reasons the Haight is so derelict at night.</p>
<p>8 PM would be a good start. 10 PM would be better. Both would massively decrease congestion while also being good for business.</p>
<p>Although I'd also like to see it implemented with sensitivity to local parking conditions; I hope Ford's ready to take on that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: David Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps there is some movement in the right direction spearheaded by Supervisor Avalos and others, but you could get real sick if a doctor gave you an improper dosage.  Perhaps all this parliamentary maneuvering is a bargaining chip, but the danger is fares still go up and services get cut . . . a formula worthy of G.H.W. Bush&#039;s kinder, gentler America or hyper capitalism soft.

  Since there may be local bus funding, including including operating expenses from the DOT, and since it&#039;s possible for Pelosi to introduce an omnibus public transit bailout bill, do you think our sometimes crack supervisors have done all they can to protect the public trust or are they taking us for a little ride?
   Call them and tell them to reject the Muni budget when it comes up next Wednesday essentially preserving the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps there is some movement in the right direction spearheaded by Supervisor Avalos and others, but you could get real sick if a doctor gave you an improper dosage.  Perhaps all this parliamentary maneuvering is a bargaining chip, but the danger is fares still go up and services get cut . . . a formula worthy of G.H.W. Bush's kinder, gentler America or hyper capitalism soft.</p>
<p>  Since there may be local bus funding, including including operating expenses from the DOT, and since it's possible for Pelosi to introduce an omnibus public transit bailout bill, do you think our sometimes crack supervisors have done all they can to protect the public trust or are they taking us for a little ride?<br />
   Call them and tell them to reject the Muni budget when it comes up next Wednesday essentially preserving the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: taomom</title>
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		<dc:creator>taomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meters at night would certainly give me an incentive to take Muni.  Even though I tend to be incredibly cheap when it comes to parking, I wouldn&#039;t necessarily mind paying the rate, but so many meters are only 1 hour which isn&#039;t nearly enough time for dining, seeing a show, etc.  If they want to rake in the big bucks on evening parking, they&#039;ve got to give people the option to put three or four hours of time on the meter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meters at night would certainly give me an incentive to take Muni.  Even though I tend to be incredibly cheap when it comes to parking, I wouldn't necessarily mind paying the rate, but so many meters are only 1 hour which isn't nearly enough time for dining, seeing a show, etc.  If they want to rake in the big bucks on evening parking, they've got to give people the option to put three or four hours of time on the meter.</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elsbernd should know that when one side doesn&#039;t keep up with its end of a bargain, the deal is off.  Didn&#039;t the Mayor neglect to provide a MOU between the MTA and the SFPD within 24 hours as promised.  Indeed, one week has elapsed and still no signs of a MOU.

Why should Chiu be expected to keep to a deal when the Mayor did not?  One might  conclude from this that the Mayor had no intention of keeping his end of the deal and was waiting to run out the clock.

The Board should simply dispense with the SFPD work order nonsense and use those millions to keep fares down by $0.25.

-marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsbernd should know that when one side doesn't keep up with its end of a bargain, the deal is off.  Didn't the Mayor neglect to provide a MOU between the MTA and the SFPD within 24 hours as promised.  Indeed, one week has elapsed and still no signs of a MOU.</p>
<p>Why should Chiu be expected to keep to a deal when the Mayor did not?  One might  conclude from this that the Mayor had no intention of keeping his end of the deal and was waiting to run out the clock.</p>
<p>The Board should simply dispense with the SFPD work order nonsense and use those millions to keep fares down by $0.25.</p>
<p>-marc</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got back from Pasadena, where meters run until midnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from Pasadena, where meters run until midnight.</p>
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