Comments on: New Ingleside Captain Gets Tough on Drivers Failing to Yield to Peds http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:39:06 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Elsie Proulx http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-6149 Elsie Proulx Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:49:14 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2369#comment-6149 Great! I live near Cortland and regularly yell at cars that don't stop... Drivers don't even stop at the stop signs in this highly walked area! Great! I live near Cortland and regularly yell at cars that don't stop... Drivers don't even stop at the stop signs in this highly walked area!

]]> By: Barna Mink http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-6143 Barna Mink Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:01:23 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2369#comment-6143 Right on, Nick. I live in that area, and ride on the Alemany bike lane every day. Cars are absolutely out of control in that area. Two lifestyles (city life + entitled, multi-car-owning, drive-straight-into-my-garage suburb mentality) are clashing. It is really quite amazing. The main streets are absolutely ruled by cars that drive way too fast. The side streets are better to ride / walk because they are quite, but they do look ugly because cars are parked everywhere, including everywhere on the sidewalk. I'm all for the new captain being more aggressive on motorists. In fact, he will still be not as aggressive as would be necessary to make these streets safe and pleasant. Right on, Nick. I live in that area, and ride on the Alemany bike lane every day. Cars are absolutely out of control in that area. Two lifestyles (city life + entitled, multi-car-owning, drive-straight-into-my-garage suburb mentality) are clashing. It is really quite amazing. The main streets are absolutely ruled by cars that drive way too fast. The side streets are better to ride / walk because they are quite, but they do look ugly because cars are parked everywhere, including everywhere on the sidewalk.

I'm all for the new captain being more aggressive on motorists. In fact, he will still be not as aggressive as would be necessary to make these streets safe and pleasant.

]]> By: Jeremiah Schaub http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-6131 Jeremiah Schaub Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:38:15 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2369#comment-6131 Why is it considered 'very progressive' when the Captain decides to actually enforce the law? I think it will lead to many angered drivers unless there is some sort of education program that accompanies this. I know two people that have gotten out of crosswalk violation tickets before (and it will continue), because teaching people about the law always works better than fines alone. Why is it considered 'very progressive' when the Captain decides to actually enforce the law? I think it will lead to many angered drivers unless there is some sort of education program that accompanies this. I know two people that have gotten out of crosswalk violation tickets before (and it will continue), because teaching people about the law always works better than fines alone.

]]> By: Nick http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-6127 Nick Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:53:38 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2369#comment-6127 The Ingleside/ OMI/ Exclesior area is an interesting case study in that there are a decent number of bike lanes but they are unridable. Some examples: the Alemany bike lanes, San Bruno, Geneva. The problem on these streets is that auto traffic picks up an incredible amount of speed. Enforcement of the speed limit here would be a good first step. Basic traffic calming on these streets would be nice for all invloved (peds, cars, bikes). The Ingleside/ OMI/ Exclesior area is an interesting case study in that there are a decent number of bike lanes but they are unridable.

Some examples: the Alemany bike lanes, San Bruno, Geneva.

The problem on these streets is that auto traffic picks up an incredible amount of speed. Enforcement of the speed limit here would be a good first step. Basic traffic calming on these streets would be nice for all invloved (peds, cars, bikes).

]]> By: Josh http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-6120 Josh Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:02:49 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2369#comment-6120 This is great - really encouraging that the captain is taking initiative. wonder if his peers are interested in hitting up some of the accident-prone intersections y'all have mentioned before: http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/02/17/city-slow-to-improve-pedestrian-safety-in-high-crash-areas/ This is great - really encouraging that the captain is taking initiative. wonder if his peers are interested in hitting up some of the accident-prone intersections y'all have mentioned before:

http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/02/17/city-slow-to-improve-pedestrian-safety-in-high-crash-areas/

]]> By: mark http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-6118 mark Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:09:37 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2369#comment-6118 awesome! i almost got ran over on mission and 17th the other day, by a person taking a right turn against a red light while there were 3 or 4 people in the crosswalk. hopefully we can see some action in that neighborhood too. its frustrating as a pedestrian because you see it happen again and again and no one seems to ever get in trouble for it. awesome! i almost got ran over on mission and 17th the other day, by a person taking a right turn against a red light while there were 3 or 4 people in the crosswalk. hopefully we can see some action in that neighborhood too.

its frustrating as a pedestrian because you see it happen again and again and no one seems to ever get in trouble for it.

]]> By: Justin http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/09/new-ingleside-captain-gets-tough-on-failure-to-yield-to-peds/comment-page-1/#comment-6115 Justin Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:56:24 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=2369#comment-6115 Watched one of these stings in action a few weeks ago on Ocean. A non-uniformed cop walks back and forth through the intersection and the patrol cars line up in a row on a side street, taking turns as each motorist blows through. During our excited watching that night, we easily saw ten motorists pulled over in ten minutes time. It was exciting, but the crosswalks that are so prevalent in the southern neighborhoods are still going to be inhospitable and dangerous places for pedestrians. Mid-block redlights, if not sink hole 'car traps,' may be the only thing that can really tame these crossings. Watched one of these stings in action a few weeks ago on Ocean. A non-uniformed cop walks back and forth through the intersection and the patrol cars line up in a row on a side street, taking turns as each motorist blows through. During our excited watching that night, we easily saw ten motorists pulled over in ten minutes time. It was exciting, but the crosswalks that are so prevalent in the southern neighborhoods are still going to be inhospitable and dangerous places for pedestrians. Mid-block redlights, if not sink hole 'car traps,' may be the only thing that can really tame these crossings.

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