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	<title>Comments on: Motorist Hits Cyclist in Valencia Street Bike Lane</title>
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		<title>By: PStoll</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/19/motorist-hits-cyclist-in-valencia-street-bike-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-11031</link>
		<dc:creator>PStoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New York has the bike lane along the curb represented by a wide green area. Then the parking lane has the traditional hatched off parking spaces right next to the traffic lane. This would eliminate bicyclists getting pulled out on and being doored by driver side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York has the bike lane along the curb represented by a wide green area. Then the parking lane has the traditional hatched off parking spaces right next to the traffic lane. This would eliminate bicyclists getting pulled out on and being doored by driver side.</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/19/motorist-hits-cyclist-in-valencia-street-bike-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-8591</link>
		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing we learned from the competitive Gonzalez 2003 campaign was the zen of politics, that one gains from creating the conditions for one&#039;s ideas to flourish rather than anally trying to control the process to elicit a desired outcome.

Part of that is having the confidence in one&#039;s position to occasionally cede power at strategic junctions rather than strong arm a strait jacketed process.  The mano duro approach is a sign of insecurity in the substance of one&#039;s political position and/or underestimating one&#039;s political power and generally produces brittle, non durable outcomes.

The Bicycle Advisory Committee needs to adopt the task of taking the temperature of cyclists and ascertaining what our community&#039;s priorities are as relates to the various policy realms related to cycling.  These priorities should be reflected in official city bicycle policy documents.

The SFBC is a lot like the proselytizing missionary or a developer lobbyist or the SFBG for that matter, as we all  know that the SFBC wants bike lanes über alles just like we&#039;ve all heard the &quot;good news&quot; of the New Testament, know what Bruce and Tim think of PG@E, and know the developers want unrestricted zoning.  Your concerns have been noted and logged, Kirk out.

Given the paralysis in achieving their main goals over the past five years and given the lack of engagement in critical issues such as enforcement and dangerous conditions mitigation, the SFBC has really forfeited the high ground in dominating this discourse moving forward.

The BAC needs to step up and own its broader base of political legitimacy and take on the task of fostering a public process that engages cyclists in self determination for our own policy future.  This public process should be integrated into a rolling approach to bicycle facilities improvement where ideas are constantly incubated, studied, prioritized and implemented instead of producing unwieldy omnibus legal targets.

-marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing we learned from the competitive Gonzalez 2003 campaign was the zen of politics, that one gains from creating the conditions for one's ideas to flourish rather than anally trying to control the process to elicit a desired outcome.</p>
<p>Part of that is having the confidence in one's position to occasionally cede power at strategic junctions rather than strong arm a strait jacketed process.  The mano duro approach is a sign of insecurity in the substance of one's political position and/or underestimating one's political power and generally produces brittle, non durable outcomes.</p>
<p>The Bicycle Advisory Committee needs to adopt the task of taking the temperature of cyclists and ascertaining what our community's priorities are as relates to the various policy realms related to cycling.  These priorities should be reflected in official city bicycle policy documents.</p>
<p>The SFBC is a lot like the proselytizing missionary or a developer lobbyist or the SFBG for that matter, as we all  know that the SFBC wants bike lanes über alles just like we've all heard the "good news" of the New Testament, know what Bruce and Tim think of PG@E, and know the developers want unrestricted zoning.  Your concerns have been noted and logged, Kirk out.</p>
<p>Given the paralysis in achieving their main goals over the past five years and given the lack of engagement in critical issues such as enforcement and dangerous conditions mitigation, the SFBC has really forfeited the high ground in dominating this discourse moving forward.</p>
<p>The BAC needs to step up and own its broader base of political legitimacy and take on the task of fostering a public process that engages cyclists in self determination for our own policy future.  This public process should be integrated into a rolling approach to bicycle facilities improvement where ideas are constantly incubated, studied, prioritized and implemented instead of producing unwieldy omnibus legal targets.</p>
<p>-marc</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Edelman</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/19/motorist-hits-cyclist-in-valencia-street-bike-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-8571</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taomom makes good suggestions in comment #4 but I have a technical and behavioral question: If the parking lanes are wider (I assume this just means that the marked cycle lane is moved further away from the curb) won&#039;t drivers simply park their cars in any part of it, i.e right up against the curb and also up against the bike lane/legal limit?

It seems that cyclists will want to go in a straight line and will still end up being close to a lot of cars.

Sliding doors may help with this but unfortunately it seems that only some delivery trucks and cars like the Peugeot 1007 have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taomom makes good suggestions in comment #4 but I have a technical and behavioral question: If the parking lanes are wider (I assume this just means that the marked cycle lane is moved further away from the curb) won't drivers simply park their cars in any part of it, i.e right up against the curb and also up against the bike lane/legal limit?</p>
<p>It seems that cyclists will want to go in a straight line and will still end up being close to a lot of cars.</p>
<p>Sliding doors may help with this but unfortunately it seems that only some delivery trucks and cars like the Peugeot 1007 have them.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that &quot;enforcement&quot; section is a useless collection of statistics and suggested actions. 

...actions which are not funded, or even designed.

Like all quality studies it just hangs a bunch of suggestions in mid-air and seemingly waits for some planning gnomes to come during the night and do the work. 

As I was saying enforcement was not addressed in the bike plan...

There are a lot of things that could be done, but...no place to do the work, because the bike plan was privatized by the SF Bike Corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that "enforcement" section is a useless collection of statistics and suggested actions. </p>
<p>...actions which are not funded, or even designed.</p>
<p>Like all quality studies it just hangs a bunch of suggestions in mid-air and seemingly waits for some planning gnomes to come during the night and do the work. </p>
<p>As I was saying enforcement was not addressed in the bike plan...</p>
<p>There are a lot of things that could be done, but...no place to do the work, because the bike plan was privatized by the SF Bike Corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@G, enforcement is indeed addressed in the Bicycle Plan policy document:

http://sfgov.org/site/frame.asp?u=http://www.sfmta.com/cms/bhome/homebikes.htm


5. ENFORCEMENT AND SAFETY
ENFORCEMENT AND SAFETY GOAL AND OBJECTIVES
Goal:
Improve bicycle safety through targeted enforcement
Objectives:
• Increase San Francisco Police Department (SFPD) enforcement of motorist and bicyclist traffic violations that pose the greatest threat to safety
• Provide San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency (SFMTA) bicycle safety education to SFPD staff and to those cited for moving violations that focuses on safe cycling, relevant traffic laws and safe sharing of the roadway
• Increase SFMTA and SFPD enforcement of motorist violations in bicycle facilities


SO first on the list is to enforce against motorists AND CYCLISTS which pose the greates threat to safety.  Second in the priority list is to educate the SFPD, and finally is the call to protect bicycle facilities.

It seems like this was written to &quot;balance&quot; the interests of cyclists with motorists instead of as a visionary document that illustrates a bike-centric view.  Maybe the calls for enforcement against cyclists should be relegated to the &quot;auto plan?&quot;  Of course, even play is an auto plan in a city that pays only lip service to the notion of &quot;transit first.&quot;

When we criticize the SFBC and the MTA Bicycle Program for their lack of accountability, we do so for reasons evident in their work product, the anti-cyclist approach of this official policy document.

-marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@G, enforcement is indeed addressed in the Bicycle Plan policy document:</p>
<p><a href="http://sfgov.org/site/frame.asp?u=http://www.sfmta.com/cms/bhome/homebikes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://sfgov.org/site/frame.asp?u=http://www.sfmta.com/cms/bhome/homebikes.htm</a></p>
<p>5. ENFORCEMENT AND SAFETY<br />
ENFORCEMENT AND SAFETY GOAL AND OBJECTIVES<br />
Goal:<br />
Improve bicycle safety through targeted enforcement<br />
Objectives:<br />
• Increase San Francisco Police Department (SFPD) enforcement of motorist and bicyclist traffic violations that pose the greatest threat to safety<br />
• Provide San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency (SFMTA) bicycle safety education to SFPD staff and to those cited for moving violations that focuses on safe cycling, relevant traffic laws and safe sharing of the roadway<br />
• Increase SFMTA and SFPD enforcement of motorist violations in bicycle facilities</p>
<p>SO first on the list is to enforce against motorists AND CYCLISTS which pose the greates threat to safety.  Second in the priority list is to educate the SFPD, and finally is the call to protect bicycle facilities.</p>
<p>It seems like this was written to "balance" the interests of cyclists with motorists instead of as a visionary document that illustrates a bike-centric view.  Maybe the calls for enforcement against cyclists should be relegated to the "auto plan?"  Of course, even play is an auto plan in a city that pays only lip service to the notion of "transit first."</p>
<p>When we criticize the SFBC and the MTA Bicycle Program for their lack of accountability, we do so for reasons evident in their work product, the anti-cyclist approach of this official policy document.</p>
<p>-marc</p>
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		<title>By: thegreasybear</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/19/motorist-hits-cyclist-in-valencia-street-bike-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-6811</link>
		<dc:creator>thegreasybear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet again, a motorist who officially admits fault for hitting and injuring a cyclist drives home without a citation. We saw this with the injury accident at Octavia and Market a couple months back.

I wonder what would happen if cyclists just started injuring motorists randomly, and admitting fault. &quot;Oh, yeah, sorry. Didn&#039;t see you there. Sorry about the head injuries. Well, off I go!&quot; 

Or, for that matter, if cyclists all over the city, all day and all night long, just arbitrarily closed down an entire street to automobile use because, you know, we got somethin&#039; to do and we&#039;re just going to occupy some other mode&#039;s entire roadway for a while? Yep--there would be a sudden blizzard of SFPD citations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet again, a motorist who officially admits fault for hitting and injuring a cyclist drives home without a citation. We saw this with the injury accident at Octavia and Market a couple months back.</p>
<p>I wonder what would happen if cyclists just started injuring motorists randomly, and admitting fault. "Oh, yeah, sorry. Didn't see you there. Sorry about the head injuries. Well, off I go!" </p>
<p>Or, for that matter, if cyclists all over the city, all day and all night long, just arbitrarily closed down an entire street to automobile use because, you know, we got somethin' to do and we're just going to occupy some other mode's entire roadway for a while? Yep--there would be a sudden blizzard of SFPD citations.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the driver admits fault, how is there no citation?!!!  If I bump into you while we are walking, that is an accident.  If your car hits me on Valencia street and lands me in SFG, that is criminal.  What happened to &quot;reckless endangerment&quot;?  

This city better catch up to the times, &#039;cause they are a changin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the driver admits fault, how is there no citation?!!!  If I bump into you while we are walking, that is an accident.  If your car hits me on Valencia street and lands me in SFG, that is criminal.  What happened to "reckless endangerment"?  </p>
<p>This city better catch up to the times, 'cause they are a changin'.</p>
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		<title>By: publicspacesf</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/19/motorist-hits-cyclist-in-valencia-street-bike-lane/comment-page-1/#comment-6691</link>
		<dc:creator>publicspacesf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The criminal law (ie.: citations) is not the only mechanism for deterring this sort of behavior.  If the driver was negligent, then the injured cyclist can bring a civil claim against the driver.  It is a shame that the police won&#039;t take care of this on the front end, but don&#039;t think this driver will get out of this without paying a few dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The criminal law (ie.: citations) is not the only mechanism for deterring this sort of behavior.  If the driver was negligent, then the injured cyclist can bring a civil claim against the driver.  It is a shame that the police won't take care of this on the front end, but don't think this driver will get out of this without paying a few dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem that the driver should be cited. Enforcement is another thing not addressed in the City Bike Plan that was called for by many, many people. A possible way to help the police deal with car to bike crashes would be to re-design the crash reports so there are specific reporting forms for such collisions. This would make effectively dealing with crashes easier so seemingly more likely. Also officer education, not sure what the status of that is? Creating bike specific forms was first propsed to the MTA in 2001. They were pretty excited about the idea until...

Enjoy the Bike Network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that the driver should be cited. Enforcement is another thing not addressed in the City Bike Plan that was called for by many, many people. A possible way to help the police deal with car to bike crashes would be to re-design the crash reports so there are specific reporting forms for such collisions. This would make effectively dealing with crashes easier so seemingly more likely. Also officer education, not sure what the status of that is? Creating bike specific forms was first propsed to the MTA in 2001. They were pretty excited about the idea until...</p>
<p>Enjoy the Bike Network.</p>
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		<title>By: ZA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just glad that both the cyclist wasn&#039;t injured horribly and that the driver stuck around and acted responsibly. 

My $0.02:
1. Focusing on improving education is entirely right, but also unavoidably inadequate so long as DMV licensing requirements are set so low, and a license that prepares you for the congested highways of Anyplace, USA does precious little for your technical driving in mixed-use San Francisco, or rural Soledad for that matter.

2. Slightly wider spacing between dooring-prone parked cars and a bike lane could have helped in this case in that the increased distance also increases reaction time for both cyclist and driver. It&#039;s a skin of an improvement, but an improvement nonetheless.

3. If we want to start to specialize the space, then Valencia would make a very good candidate as a &quot;Bike Boulevard.&quot; The cars dominate Guerrero and Dolores, and Mission is both heavily transit and heavily pedestrian. Generally segregated east-west crossings for cars and bikes are also feasible, with 16th, 17th, 24th, and Cesar Chavez demonstrating likely spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm just glad that both the cyclist wasn't injured horribly and that the driver stuck around and acted responsibly. </p>
<p>My $0.02:<br />
1. Focusing on improving education is entirely right, but also unavoidably inadequate so long as DMV licensing requirements are set so low, and a license that prepares you for the congested highways of Anyplace, USA does precious little for your technical driving in mixed-use San Francisco, or rural Soledad for that matter.</p>
<p>2. Slightly wider spacing between dooring-prone parked cars and a bike lane could have helped in this case in that the increased distance also increases reaction time for both cyclist and driver. It's a skin of an improvement, but an improvement nonetheless.</p>
<p>3. If we want to start to specialize the space, then Valencia would make a very good candidate as a "Bike Boulevard." The cars dominate Guerrero and Dolores, and Mission is both heavily transit and heavily pedestrian. Generally segregated east-west crossings for cars and bikes are also feasible, with 16th, 17th, 24th, and Cesar Chavez demonstrating likely spots.</p>
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		<title>By: taomom</title>
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		<dc:creator>taomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no excuses for hitting bicyclists on Valencia Street.  It&#039;s the most heavily trafficked bicycle corridor in the city.  If you drive on that street, you are signing on to watch out for bicyclists. If you don&#039;t want to deal with bicyclists, drive and/or park on Guerrero.  I agree that drivers need to be held accountable for their dangerous actions. Sending someone to the hospitable should equal loss of license for a month.

I don&#039;t agree that there are no infrastructure changes that could have prevented that accident.  A bike lane between parked cars and the curb would have prevented that accident.  Getting rid of car parking on Valencia Street would have prevented that accident.  Eliminating cars on Valencia Street altogether would have prevented that accident.  Just because these are options we don&#039;t want to pursue (yet?) doesn&#039;t mean that they don&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no excuses for hitting bicyclists on Valencia Street.  It's the most heavily trafficked bicycle corridor in the city.  If you drive on that street, you are signing on to watch out for bicyclists. If you don't want to deal with bicyclists, drive and/or park on Guerrero.  I agree that drivers need to be held accountable for their dangerous actions. Sending someone to the hospitable should equal loss of license for a month.</p>
<p>I don't agree that there are no infrastructure changes that could have prevented that accident.  A bike lane between parked cars and the curb would have prevented that accident.  Getting rid of car parking on Valencia Street would have prevented that accident.  Eliminating cars on Valencia Street altogether would have prevented that accident.  Just because these are options we don't want to pursue (yet?) doesn't mean that they don't exist.</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter Smith, what good are laws holding motorists accountable if the cops feel that they don&#039;t have to enforce them, or, worse, are allowed to enforce minor cyclists violations instead?  

Just saw a cop giving a cyclist a ticket in Golden Gate Park while CarSharing by the Conservatory of Flowers on my way up to the Richmond.

-marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter Smith, what good are laws holding motorists accountable if the cops feel that they don't have to enforce them, or, worse, are allowed to enforce minor cyclists violations instead?  </p>
<p>Just saw a cop giving a cyclist a ticket in Golden Gate Park while CarSharing by the Conservatory of Flowers on my way up to the Richmond.</p>
<p>-marc</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to start putting together legislation that would actually penalize drivers for driving recklessy. If there are injuries, then we need to treat it the same as we&#039;d treat firing a loaded gun into a crowd -- felonies.

Driving is an inherently-dangerous activity -- oftentimes it is lethal. We need laws that actually deal with this reality.

Education is great, but we need enforceable laws so we don&#039;t have to beg the DA to beg charges when these crimes happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to start putting together legislation that would actually penalize drivers for driving recklessy. If there are injuries, then we need to treat it the same as we'd treat firing a loaded gun into a crowd -- felonies.</p>
<p>Driving is an inherently-dangerous activity -- oftentimes it is lethal. We need laws that actually deal with this reality.</p>
<p>Education is great, but we need enforceable laws so we don't have to beg the DA to beg charges when these crimes happen.</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“We’re very excited at the prospect of a new chief because there are definitely topics, and this may be topic A, that we’ve been waiting to really engage and begin a new initiative on all sides in having real, meaningful prioritized enforcement on the streets.” 

And waiting, and waiting and waiting.

What&#039;s been the impediment for these past six years since we&#039;ve opened up the Police Commission?  

Surely watching the paint dry on the bike plan could not have been all that consuming?

-marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We’re very excited at the prospect of a new chief because there are definitely topics, and this may be topic A, that we’ve been waiting to really engage and begin a new initiative on all sides in having real, meaningful prioritized enforcement on the streets.” </p>
<p>And waiting, and waiting and waiting.</p>
<p>What's been the impediment for these past six years since we've opened up the Police Commission?  </p>
<p>Surely watching the paint dry on the bike plan could not have been all that consuming?</p>
<p>-marc</p>
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