Comments on: Streetfilms: SF Carves a Park from the Midst of Its Pavement http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:39:06 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Matthew Roth http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-10221 Matthew Roth Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:20:04 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-10221 Stills, diagrams and more coverage here: http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/25/17th-street-closure-will-be-first-nyc-style-plaza-in-san-francisco/ http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/06/17th-street-and-market-plaza-opens-next-wednesday/ http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/08/eyes-on-the-street-its-beginning-to-look-a-lot-like-a-livable-street/ http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/12/a-livable-street-in-the-making-17th-street-ped-plaza-nearly-complete/ http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/13/mayor-newsom-unveils-sfs-first-pavement-to-parks-plaza/ Stills, diagrams and more coverage here:

http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/03/25/17th-street-closure-will-be-first-nyc-style-plaza-in-san-francisco/
http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/06/17th-street-and-market-plaza-opens-next-wednesday/
http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/08/eyes-on-the-street-its-beginning-to-look-a-lot-like-a-livable-street/
http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/12/a-livable-street-in-the-making-17th-street-ped-plaza-nearly-complete/
http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/05/13/mayor-newsom-unveils-sfs-first-pavement-to-parks-plaza/

]]> By: Todd Edelman http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-10211 Todd Edelman Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:16:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-10211 Cute but I see that the Holy Automobile Throughput was not challenged. Also curious how much space that Chevron station takes up... Cute but I see that the Holy Automobile Throughput was not challenged. Also curious how much space that Chevron station takes up...

]]> By: Helen Highwater http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-10191 Helen Highwater Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:00:25 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-10191 Former SFer reading this from 2,000 miles away, and it looks like a great idea but the video doesn't show the changes. I'll be looking elsewhere for photos or a diagram... Former SFer reading this from 2,000 miles away, and it looks like a great idea but the video doesn't show the changes. I'll be looking elsewhere for photos or a diagram...

]]> By: thegreasybear http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-9711 thegreasybear Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:16:50 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-9711 After the street reopened, the remaining protesters (I'm talking like after 11:30pm) had two choices: Harvey Milk Plaza or 17th Street. The crowd passed over the uneven, bunkered and sidelined subway station "plaza" for the new temporary space in the heart of the neighborhood. After the street reopened, the remaining protesters (I'm talking like after 11:30pm) had two choices: Harvey Milk Plaza or 17th Street. The crowd passed over the uneven, bunkered and sidelined subway station "plaza" for the new temporary space in the heart of the neighborhood.

]]> By: Jamison Wieser http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-9671 Jamison Wieser Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:27:56 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-9671 The rally held after the Prop 8 ruling closed down the entire Castro & Market intersection. The crowd was many times the size of what could fit in the plaza. The rally held after the Prop 8 ruling closed down the entire Castro & Market intersection. The crowd was many times the size of what could fit in the plaza.

]]> By: marcos http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-9661 marcos Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:03:08 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-9661 Back in the day, Market, 17th and Castro would regularly be made into "car free" autonomous zones at the drop of a hat for a protest. In 2003, when Bowers v. Hardwick was overturned by Lawrence v. Texas, the communities rallied at Harvey Milk Plaza. This intersection has historical significance for the queer communities irrespective of any temporary treatments, indeed in spite of any (self) conscious efforts at streetscape engineering. One would hard pressed to make the case that these slivers of streets cum park amidst streetcar tracks made anti-Prop 8 organizing any easier or more effective. When critical political mass comes together, the least of concerns are traffic laws. -marc Back in the day, Market, 17th and Castro would regularly be made into "car free" autonomous zones at the drop of a hat for a protest.

In 2003, when Bowers v. Hardwick was overturned by Lawrence v. Texas, the communities rallied at Harvey Milk Plaza.

This intersection has historical significance for the queer communities irrespective of any temporary treatments, indeed in spite of any (self) conscious efforts at streetscape engineering.

One would hard pressed to make the case that these slivers of streets cum park amidst streetcar tracks made anti-Prop 8 organizing any easier or more effective.

When critical political mass comes together, the least of concerns are traffic laws.

-marc

]]> By: thegreasybear http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-9551 thegreasybear Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:23:58 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-9551 The plaza was also used as a rally site by the gay community after the Proposition 8 ruling by the CA Supreme Court. This space is a smashing civic success. The plaza was also used as a rally site by the gay community after the Proposition 8 ruling by the CA Supreme Court. This space is a smashing civic success.

]]> By: mikesonn http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-9521 mikesonn Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:56:09 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-9521 Can we get a "temp" set up for the Vallejo piazza? I think once people realize how awesome it is, they will jump on it like they did with this one. I'm on North Beach Neighbors and I can already sense the heels being dug in to fight the piazza because it'll inconvenience the people who driving down the hill from their homes. We need to act quickly so that those who would actually use and enjoy the space can have a chance to experience it. Can we get a "temp" set up for the Vallejo piazza? I think once people realize how awesome it is, they will jump on it like they did with this one. I'm on North Beach Neighbors and I can already sense the heels being dug in to fight the piazza because it'll inconvenience the people who driving down the hill from their homes. We need to act quickly so that those who would actually use and enjoy the space can have a chance to experience it.

]]> By: Wai Yip Tung http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/06/29/streetfilms-sf-carves-a-park-from-the-midst-of-its-pavement/comment-page-1/#comment-9501 Wai Yip Tung Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:06:27 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=3081#comment-9501 Very nice. I want to add that by eliminating excessive road space, it makes driving safer too. The problem with many Market Street intersections is cars seem coming from all directions. It is very confusing for drivers. By closing off some part of the street it helps to better define driving paths. Very nice. I want to add that by eliminating excessive road space, it makes driving safer too. The problem with many Market Street intersections is cars seem coming from all directions. It is very confusing for drivers. By closing off some part of the street it helps to better define driving paths.

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