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	<title>Comments on: Streetscast: An Interview with MTA Chair Tom Nolan</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - one need only look at the T-Third to see the folly of your conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; one need only look at the T-Third to see the folly of your conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably because, like many major transit developments, there will be many first-time users once it is up and running. Streetcars are far more popular than buses, which is why the world over cities are re-introducing them, having ripped them down decades ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably because, like many major transit developments, there will be many first-time users once it is up and running. Streetcars are far more popular than buses, which is why the world over cities are re-introducing them, having ripped them down decades ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Nesad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nesad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a committed believer in the theory that the Central Subway will solve Chinatown&#039;s  traffic and transit problems, MTA Board President Nolan should be called upon to answer the following question:

Why if this is true does the MTA&#039;s November 2010 report to the federal government acknowledge that only 10.5% of  today&#039;s daily riders of the 8x, 30 and 45 lines be using the Chinatown subway station by 2030?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a committed believer in the theory that the Central Subway will solve Chinatown&#8217;s  traffic and transit problems, MTA Board President Nolan should be called upon to answer the following question:</p>
<p>Why if this is true does the MTA&#8217;s November 2010 report to the federal government acknowledge that only 10.5% of  today&#8217;s daily riders of the 8x, 30 and 45 lines be using the Chinatown subway station by 2030?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Know-it-all Marc has the facts wrong again. Addressing Nolan&#039;s ignorant remark on the number of Muni passengers and his remarks on the Bicycle Plan is hardly &quot;hijacking&quot; this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Know-it-all Marc has the facts wrong again. Addressing Nolan&#8217;s ignorant remark on the number of Muni passengers and his remarks on the Bicycle Plan is hardly &#8220;hijacking&#8221; this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread was about an interview with MTA board president Nolan on a variety of issues, the interview barely touched on the bike plan, yet Anderson hijacked us there.  No questions about bike lane implementation, as a lack of resources for completion is more of a bottleneck than approval.

Nolan said that the MTA Board played an important role, but a limited role.

He went on to complain that directors were opposed to the budget, but few voiced their concerns.

If the role of the directors is limited, then what is the proper forum to express their concerns so that the product before them reflects their concerns?  And what&#039;s the point of talking to the hand when you can just vote no and be out of the farce, home to your family sooner?

Under such a scenario, doesn&#039;t the fact that Nat Ford believes he works for Gavin Newsom really trump the fact that Newsom has never called Nolan, given that Nolan feels the board&#039;s role is so limited?

Nolan&#039;s undisguised glee over the opportunity that the fiscal crisis presents to do what would take years of study smacks of the Naomi Klien&#039;s Shock Doctrine, DIsaster Capitalism [1].  Whether reasons were offered up or not, 3 votes against declaring a state of emergency was remarkable.

Government is supposed to be run with checks and balances.  And old drunk Irish  secretary for multiple commissions once told me that there are only two kinds of commissions in this town, those where the commission runs the staff and those where the staff runs the commission.  Clearly the MTA is the latter even though the voters called for the former, Nolan expressed precisely as much.

The only way to stop the Mayor from bleeding the MTA dry for his own political purposes is to distribute power over the MTA equally between the Board of Supervisors and the Mayor.  If we&#039;re going to have politics, then let&#039;s at least have some balance.

-marc
[1] http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread was about an interview with MTA board president Nolan on a variety of issues, the interview barely touched on the bike plan, yet Anderson hijacked us there.  No questions about bike lane implementation, as a lack of resources for completion is more of a bottleneck than approval.</p>
<p>Nolan said that the MTA Board played an important role, but a limited role.</p>
<p>He went on to complain that directors were opposed to the budget, but few voiced their concerns.</p>
<p>If the role of the directors is limited, then what is the proper forum to express their concerns so that the product before them reflects their concerns?  And what&#8217;s the point of talking to the hand when you can just vote no and be out of the farce, home to your family sooner?</p>
<p>Under such a scenario, doesn&#8217;t the fact that Nat Ford believes he works for Gavin Newsom really trump the fact that Newsom has never called Nolan, given that Nolan feels the board&#8217;s role is so limited?</p>
<p>Nolan&#8217;s undisguised glee over the opportunity that the fiscal crisis presents to do what would take years of study smacks of the Naomi Klien&#8217;s Shock Doctrine, DIsaster Capitalism [1].  Whether reasons were offered up or not, 3 votes against declaring a state of emergency was remarkable.</p>
<p>Government is supposed to be run with checks and balances.  And old drunk Irish  secretary for multiple commissions once told me that there are only two kinds of commissions in this town, those where the commission runs the staff and those where the staff runs the commission.  Clearly the MTA is the latter even though the voters called for the former, Nolan expressed precisely as much.</p>
<p>The only way to stop the Mayor from bleeding the MTA dry for his own political purposes is to distribute power over the MTA equally between the Board of Supervisors and the Mayor.  If we&#8217;re going to have politics, then let&#8217;s at least have some balance.</p>
<p>-marc<br />
[1] <a href="http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine" rel="nofollow">http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson hasn&#039;t submitted his promised appeal yet. I mean, he PROMISED he would appeal, one would think that if this appeal was important and he knew he was going to do it, it would be ready and submitted.

Honestly, he will wait until the last minute to submit it, knowing he is beaten but that he can delay those bike lanes just a few more days by continuing to finesse process over results. America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson hasn&#8217;t submitted his promised appeal yet. I mean, he PROMISED he would appeal, one would think that if this appeal was important and he knew he was going to do it, it would be ready and submitted.</p>
<p>Honestly, he will wait until the last minute to submit it, knowing he is beaten but that he can delay those bike lanes just a few more days by continuing to finesse process over results. America!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Anderson</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/07/06/streetscast-an-interview-with-mta-chair-tom-nolan-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-11941</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let&#039;s be honest, the most unsafe way to get around is in a car. Unsafe for you, unsafe for your passengers, unsafe for your neighbors-turned-speedbumps.&quot;

Whenever someone introduces a riff with &quot;Let&#039;s be honest,&quot; I know a crock is going to follow. Why is it that whenever anyone questions the safety of cycling, cyclists immediately change the subject to the dangers involved with cars. I&#039;m 66 years old and have traveled many miles on cars and buses, and I have never even been involved in any kind of an accident either as a driver or a passenger. On the other hand, hardcore cyclists like Robert Hurst and John Forester tells us that if you ride a bike for any length of time, you&#039;re going to have some spills and falls that have nothing to do with other vehicles---spin-outs, equipment failures, a pothole, etc.

The city acknowledges in its bike documents that cycling accidents are under-reported by at least 20%. I suspect it&#039;s more than that, since the city has no reliable system for reporting such accidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s be honest, the most unsafe way to get around is in a car. Unsafe for you, unsafe for your passengers, unsafe for your neighbors-turned-speedbumps.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whenever someone introduces a riff with &#8220;Let&#8217;s be honest,&#8221; I know a crock is going to follow. Why is it that whenever anyone questions the safety of cycling, cyclists immediately change the subject to the dangers involved with cars. I&#8217;m 66 years old and have traveled many miles on cars and buses, and I have never even been involved in any kind of an accident either as a driver or a passenger. On the other hand, hardcore cyclists like Robert Hurst and John Forester tells us that if you ride a bike for any length of time, you&#8217;re going to have some spills and falls that have nothing to do with other vehicles&#8212;spin-outs, equipment failures, a pothole, etc.</p>
<p>The city acknowledges in its bike documents that cycling accidents are under-reported by at least 20%. I suspect it&#8217;s more than that, since the city has no reliable system for reporting such accidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To say &#039;People should be afraid to ride a bike in SF; it&#039;s an inherently risky way to get around&#039; amounts to intimidation. You can say the same thing to pedestrians or to mothers pushing a stroller.&quot;

Let&#039;s be honest, the most unsafe way to get around is in a car.  Unsafe for you, unsafe for your passengers, unsafe for your neighbors-turned-speedbumps.

Riding a bike really really fast is inherently dangerous too, though less so than driving really really fast.  So, I suppose, is running full tilt through a crowd.  Those are all dangerous ways to get around.

Riding a well-functioning bike calmly, walking, jogging, pushing baby strollers, etc. are among &lt;i&gt;the most safe&lt;/i&gt; ways to get around that exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To say &#8216;People should be afraid to ride a bike in SF; it&#8217;s an inherently risky way to get around&#8217; amounts to intimidation. You can say the same thing to pedestrians or to mothers pushing a stroller.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, the most unsafe way to get around is in a car.  Unsafe for you, unsafe for your passengers, unsafe for your neighbors-turned-speedbumps.</p>
<p>Riding a bike really really fast is inherently dangerous too, though less so than driving really really fast.  So, I suppose, is running full tilt through a crowd.  Those are all dangerous ways to get around.</p>
<p>Riding a well-functioning bike calmly, walking, jogging, pushing baby strollers, etc. are among <i>the most safe</i> ways to get around that exist.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nobody is claiming that the Bike plan is going to stop any cyclists from being injured. The bike plan is to improve safety and make cycling easier for the average person. There&#039;s nothing that will make it absolutely safe, the same way as there is nothing that will make driving absolutely safe.

I have every confidence that the proposed projects will make biking safer and easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nobody is claiming that the Bike plan is going to stop any cyclists from being injured. The bike plan is to improve safety and make cycling easier for the average person. There&#8217;s nothing that will make it absolutely safe, the same way as there is nothing that will make driving absolutely safe.</p>
<p>I have every confidence that the proposed projects will make biking safer and easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Wai Yip Tung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wai Yip Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say &quot;People should be afraid to ride a bike in SF; it&#039;s an inherently risky way to get around&quot; amounts to intimidation. You can say the same thing to pedestrians or to mothers pushing a stroller. They should be afraid! They are putting themselves in harm&#039;s way! The street is an inherently dangerous place. What a horrible vision you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say &#8220;People should be afraid to ride a bike in SF; it&#8217;s an inherently risky way to get around&#8221; amounts to intimidation. You can say the same thing to pedestrians or to mothers pushing a stroller. They should be afraid! They are putting themselves in harm&#8217;s way! The street is an inherently dangerous place. What a horrible vision you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>700,000 people do not ride Muni every day. There are 686,000 &quot;boardings&quot; on Muni every weekday, which means that a lot of passengers ride Muni to and from their destination and don&#039;t represent different passengers.

&quot;And I think the number one problem that the bike coalition people tell us is that some people are not riding because they&#039;re afraid, they&#039;re scared out there, the dooring and all that stuff. But if we can almost double the number of bike lanes and all these amenities for bicycles, I think that’ll help move us towards the transit first city.&quot;

People should be afraid to ride a bike in SF; it&#039;s an inherently risky way to get around. The delusion is that, once the Bicycle Plan is completely implemented, riding a bike here will be safe. It will be interesting to then hear the SFBC&#039;s explanation for the fact that people continue to be injured while cycling.

It&#039;s irresponsible for public officials and the SFBC to encourage the Safe Routes to School idea on streets that they admit are now dangerous for adult cyclists.

And then you have Shahum&#039;s vision of the future on city streets: she wants traffic to be safe and slow enough for seven-year-olds to ride bikes on city streets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>700,000 people do not ride Muni every day. There are 686,000 &#8220;boardings&#8221; on Muni every weekday, which means that a lot of passengers ride Muni to and from their destination and don&#8217;t represent different passengers.</p>
<p>&#8220;And I think the number one problem that the bike coalition people tell us is that some people are not riding because they&#8217;re afraid, they&#8217;re scared out there, the dooring and all that stuff. But if we can almost double the number of bike lanes and all these amenities for bicycles, I think that’ll help move us towards the transit first city.&#8221;</p>
<p>People should be afraid to ride a bike in SF; it&#8217;s an inherently risky way to get around. The delusion is that, once the Bicycle Plan is completely implemented, riding a bike here will be safe. It will be interesting to then hear the SFBC&#8217;s explanation for the fact that people continue to be injured while cycling.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s irresponsible for public officials and the SFBC to encourage the Safe Routes to School idea on streets that they admit are now dangerous for adult cyclists.</p>
<p>And then you have Shahum&#8217;s vision of the future on city streets: she wants traffic to be safe and slow enough for seven-year-olds to ride bikes on city streets!</p>
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		<title>By: marcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the dusty, decade-old ballot pamphlet section on Prop E from 1999:

http://cybre.net/pub/prope.pdf

Read the claims that were made about political independence by the Board of Supervisors, SPUR, the SF Chamber of Commerce, the SFBC and the Republican Party.

Ask yourself if you could serve on the MTA Board of Directors, read the text of Section 8A of the Charter, and come to the same conclusions as Director Nolan does.

What language could be put into the charter which would express the will of the Board of Supervisors and proponents of Prop E and be legally binding on appointees?

And kudos to the late Sue Bierman who got this one right.  Don&#039;t blame me, I voted against Prop E in 1999.

-marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the dusty, decade-old ballot pamphlet section on Prop E from 1999:</p>
<p><a href="http://cybre.net/pub/prope.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://cybre.net/pub/prope.pdf</a></p>
<p>Read the claims that were made about political independence by the Board of Supervisors, SPUR, the SF Chamber of Commerce, the SFBC and the Republican Party.</p>
<p>Ask yourself if you could serve on the MTA Board of Directors, read the text of Section 8A of the Charter, and come to the same conclusions as Director Nolan does.</p>
<p>What language could be put into the charter which would express the will of the Board of Supervisors and proponents of Prop E and be legally binding on appointees?</p>
<p>And kudos to the late Sue Bierman who got this one right.  Don&#8217;t blame me, I voted against Prop E in 1999.</p>
<p>-marc</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least he admits the MTA board is a sham, serving the whims of a fake Green Gavin. It&#039;s just too bad he&#039;s apparently congenitally unable to show any leadership or vision to make the MTA functional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least he admits the MTA board is a sham, serving the whims of a fake Green Gavin. It&#8217;s just too bad he&#8217;s apparently congenitally unable to show any leadership or vision to make the MTA functional.</p>
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