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	<title>Comments on: Oakland Merchants Claim Higher Parking Rates Are Hurting Business</title>
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		<title>By: len raphael</title>
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		<dc:creator>len raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tommy makse a point that most of the posters here are oblivious to. yes, its obvious that theoreticaly charging market rates for street parking is a good thing to do. it&#039;s the timing of this that&#039;s bad. 

you don&#039;t need to commission a study to know that if you raise the cost of driving, you remove disposable income that could be spent at the destination retail store.

because of the recession, because of oakland crime, costco, large chain stores, pending mandatory health insurance benefits, etc. small retailers are a rare breed on the brink of extinction. they know it and are very very worried.

how many of your posters have ever run a small business and worried about covering their employees paychecks? 

if you have, you&#039;ll have more empathy for the merchants whose cute little stores you want to survive and you&#039;ll figure out a way to raise parking revenues less abruptly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tommy makse a point that most of the posters here are oblivious to. yes, its obvious that theoreticaly charging market rates for street parking is a good thing to do. it&#8217;s the timing of this that&#8217;s bad. </p>
<p>you don&#8217;t need to commission a study to know that if you raise the cost of driving, you remove disposable income that could be spent at the destination retail store.</p>
<p>because of the recession, because of oakland crime, costco, large chain stores, pending mandatory health insurance benefits, etc. small retailers are a rare breed on the brink of extinction. they know it and are very very worried.</p>
<p>how many of your posters have ever run a small business and worried about covering their employees paychecks? </p>
<p>if you have, you&#8217;ll have more empathy for the merchants whose cute little stores you want to survive and you&#8217;ll figure out a way to raise parking revenues less abruptly.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The city could have saved itself some grief by carefully measuring parking occupancy before the higher rate and after, and doing shopper surveys asking how people got there. Invariably retailers grossly overestimate the number of people coming by car --- because they themselves drive and want to park in front of their stores. The city could also arrived at the same goal by tying meter rates to target occupancy rates --- say 85%. Lastly, the city could approach merchants about creating a Parking  Benefit District and plowing some meter money back into streetscape improvements that draw more customers. There is a well defined play book on all of this laid out by Donald Shoup and put into action in dozens of Parking Benefits in California and the West Coast. The nearest to Oakland is Redwood City, if council wants to take a field trip. (Really) lastly, the SFTA just announced that SF is creating Parking Benefit Districts across the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city could have saved itself some grief by carefully measuring parking occupancy before the higher rate and after, and doing shopper surveys asking how people got there. Invariably retailers grossly overestimate the number of people coming by car &#8212; because they themselves drive and want to park in front of their stores. The city could also arrived at the same goal by tying meter rates to target occupancy rates &#8212; say 85%. Lastly, the city could approach merchants about creating a Parking  Benefit District and plowing some meter money back into streetscape improvements that draw more customers. There is a well defined play book on all of this laid out by Donald Shoup and put into action in dozens of Parking Benefits in California and the West Coast. The nearest to Oakland is Redwood City, if council wants to take a field trip. (Really) lastly, the SFTA just announced that SF is creating Parking Benefit Districts across the city.</p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
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		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The higher parking costs would not have discouraged me from visiting the Grand Lake. However, Michaan&#039;s hissy-fit will probably keep me away indefinitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The higher parking costs would not have discouraged me from visiting the Grand Lake. However, Michaan&#8217;s hissy-fit will probably keep me away indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Fogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoup (http://shoup.bol.ucla.edu/) claims a vacancy rate of about 15% is ideal... the first step here is to measure whether we were overshooting or undercutting that.

The city of Oakland should be doing regular surveys of the parking vacancy rate.  If they&#039;re not doing them, then this Michaan fellow should do a few himself to back up all this talk with some numbers.  It&#039;s quite possible the meter rates are too high.  If so, let&#039;s see the proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoup (<a href="http://shoup.bol.ucla.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://shoup.bol.ucla.edu/</a>) claims a vacancy rate of about 15% is ideal&#8230; the first step here is to measure whether we were overshooting or undercutting that.</p>
<p>The city of Oakland should be doing regular surveys of the parking vacancy rate.  If they&#8217;re not doing them, then this Michaan fellow should do a few himself to back up all this talk with some numbers.  It&#8217;s quite possible the meter rates are too high.  If so, let&#8217;s see the proof.</p>
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		<title>By: The Overhead Wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Overhead Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would also be nice if there were better bus access.  I&#039;m over there every once in a while and usually take the 12.  But what happens is that the headways are so long that I have to plan around them instead of being able to plan around my own schedule.  Those merchants would do well to increase biking, walking, and transit access, they would be surprised by the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would also be nice if there were better bus access.  I&#8217;m over there every once in a while and usually take the 12.  But what happens is that the headways are so long that I have to plan around them instead of being able to plan around my own schedule.  Those merchants would do well to increase biking, walking, and transit access, they would be surprised by the results.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to stick up a little for the businesses. relatively high rates for parking only work when you have so much demand that people must circle around looking for a spot. we all have to be reasonable about this. the neighborhood does attract some people from outside the area, so until there are parking fees at all or most of the commercial strips/shopping centers in oakland, berkeley, and emeryville, the situation is unfair. 

in a dream world, we&#039;d have a regional government and it would be able to force all commercial operators to charge for parking. (and residential parking would be &quot;unbundled&quot; and charged for too!) until then, we need to establish good public transit, wide sidewalks and safe street crossings,  narrow streets where cars must slow down, and a big campaign including signage and street paint to encourage more bicyles to take full lanes...also political pressure to never approve another suburban-style shopping center or mall... all this must be done FIRST. otherwise, you&#039;re putting most neighborhood commercial areas at a disadvantage by discouraging car drivers.

it sounds weird, but many car drivers DO think 2 bucks an hour for parking, and the occasional risk of accidentally going over time and getting a ticket, make it better to just go somewhere else, even if it&#039;s a few miles away. even though they&#039;ll plop down 4 bucks for an espresso drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to stick up a little for the businesses. relatively high rates for parking only work when you have so much demand that people must circle around looking for a spot. we all have to be reasonable about this. the neighborhood does attract some people from outside the area, so until there are parking fees at all or most of the commercial strips/shopping centers in oakland, berkeley, and emeryville, the situation is unfair. </p>
<p>in a dream world, we&#8217;d have a regional government and it would be able to force all commercial operators to charge for parking. (and residential parking would be &#8220;unbundled&#8221; and charged for too!) until then, we need to establish good public transit, wide sidewalks and safe street crossings,  narrow streets where cars must slow down, and a big campaign including signage and street paint to encourage more bicyles to take full lanes&#8230;also political pressure to never approve another suburban-style shopping center or mall&#8230; all this must be done FIRST. otherwise, you&#8217;re putting most neighborhood commercial areas at a disadvantage by discouraging car drivers.</p>
<p>it sounds weird, but many car drivers DO think 2 bucks an hour for parking, and the occasional risk of accidentally going over time and getting a ticket, make it better to just go somewhere else, even if it&#8217;s a few miles away. even though they&#8217;ll plop down 4 bucks for an espresso drink.</p>
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		<title>By: CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is not the $2 each hour the city is looking for. it is the parking tickets. if there are no meter. how can the city give tickets? I personally shop away from the metered shopping area. I am willing to pay more on gas and the $2 parking. but don&#039;t want to think about if I will get a ticket if I am late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not the $2 each hour the city is looking for. it is the parking tickets. if there are no meter. how can the city give tickets? I personally shop away from the metered shopping area. I am willing to pay more on gas and the $2 parking. but don&#8217;t want to think about if I will get a ticket if I am late.</p>
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		<title>By: Jym</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>=v= I also lived in the area, and spent a lot of time (and money) on the eminently walkable Grand Avenue and Lakeshore Avenue.  The dead zones in those commercial districts are the parts dominated by Interstate 580&#039;s onramp and offramp, and the few businesses that were build suburban-style, with a sea of parking around it.  (That is, in fact, precisely what&#039;s wrong with Walgreens.)

Cars are the death of the area, not the life.  Best to focus on alternatives rather than whining about motorists actually paying a bit more of the costs they inflict for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>=v= I also lived in the area, and spent a lot of time (and money) on the eminently walkable Grand Avenue and Lakeshore Avenue.  The dead zones in those commercial districts are the parts dominated by Interstate 580&#8242;s onramp and offramp, and the few businesses that were build suburban-style, with a sea of parking around it.  (That is, in fact, precisely what&#8217;s wrong with Walgreens.)</p>
<p>Cars are the death of the area, not the life.  Best to focus on alternatives rather than whining about motorists actually paying a bit more of the costs they inflict for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: East Lake Biker</title>
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		<dc:creator>East Lake Biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[Michaan] is asking fellow businesses to close next Thursday to draw attention to the issue.&quot;

Why is it every time there is a &quot;protest&quot; it defeats the intended message?  If all the shops on Grand/Lakeshore closed there would be no income for them that day.  Plus, it would piss off customers.  If the new rates actually drove (pun intended) away customers wouldn&#039;t it make things worse? How would Michaan get Trader Joe&#039;s or Walgreens to close? 

I want to know how drive-in customers feel about the new rates.  Would they be discouraged to shop in town?  This would be easy enough to find out, just position survey takers at the pay stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[Michaan] is asking fellow businesses to close next Thursday to draw attention to the issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why is it every time there is a &#8220;protest&#8221; it defeats the intended message?  If all the shops on Grand/Lakeshore closed there would be no income for them that day.  Plus, it would piss off customers.  If the new rates actually drove (pun intended) away customers wouldn&#8217;t it make things worse? How would Michaan get Trader Joe&#8217;s or Walgreens to close? </p>
<p>I want to know how drive-in customers feel about the new rates.  Would they be discouraged to shop in town?  This would be easy enough to find out, just position survey takers at the pay stations.</p>
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		<title>By: David Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived above Grand Avenue for a while and always walked down because it was difficult to park there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived above Grand Avenue for a while and always walked down because it was difficult to park there.</p>
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		<title>By: Zakcq Lockrem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zakcq Lockrem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michaan (who doesn&#039;t live in Oakland) doesn&#039;t even have the authority to start a recall petition. That a bunch of business men who don&#039;t even live in our city should try to eliminate OUR elected officials is ridiculous. The subtext in all of this is that they don&#039;t like the kind of people who don&#039;t drive everywhere. They&#039;d rather have drive-in/drive-out suburbanites at their businesses then the good citizens of Oakland. 

btw. I was at a sold out show at the Grand just a few days ago (though I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll be frequenting it now). If anyone&#039;s got a list of businesses supporting this so I can avoid them, I&#039;d appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michaan (who doesn&#8217;t live in Oakland) doesn&#8217;t even have the authority to start a recall petition. That a bunch of business men who don&#8217;t even live in our city should try to eliminate OUR elected officials is ridiculous. The subtext in all of this is that they don&#8217;t like the kind of people who don&#8217;t drive everywhere. They&#8217;d rather have drive-in/drive-out suburbanites at their businesses then the good citizens of Oakland. </p>
<p>btw. I was at a sold out show at the Grand just a few days ago (though I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll be frequenting it now). If anyone&#8217;s got a list of businesses supporting this so I can avoid them, I&#8217;d appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michaan has officially lost his credentials as a &quot;Progressive.&quot;

Car-hugging is not revolutionary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michaan has officially lost his credentials as a &#8220;Progressive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Car-hugging is not revolutionary.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s so disappointing. I lived right behind Grand Lake Theater and there are so many people walking from their homes to shop, watch movies, etc. I wish Michaan and crew would do legitimate access surveys of their clientele to see how many arrive by what mode. Go down to Lakeshore or Grand Ave any morning or evening and see how many of the shoppers at the local stores drove there.  I&#039;d bet it isn&#039;t the majority.  I think the numbers would surprise him. 

It&#039;s doubly disappointing because Michaan constantly used his marquee to declaim the abuses of Bush, Cheney, etc, when they were in power. Now he&#039;s endorsing backwards parking policy?  Free parking is never the turnaround for a city and comparing Lake Merritt/Lakeshore to the mall-ified Walnut Creek and Pleasant Hill is bad reasoning. 

He should be looking at Pasadena and Redwood City for inspiration. Don Shoup, where are you when we need you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so disappointing. I lived right behind Grand Lake Theater and there are so many people walking from their homes to shop, watch movies, etc. I wish Michaan and crew would do legitimate access surveys of their clientele to see how many arrive by what mode. Go down to Lakeshore or Grand Ave any morning or evening and see how many of the shoppers at the local stores drove there.  I&#8217;d bet it isn&#8217;t the majority.  I think the numbers would surprise him. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s doubly disappointing because Michaan constantly used his marquee to declaim the abuses of Bush, Cheney, etc, when they were in power. Now he&#8217;s endorsing backwards parking policy?  Free parking is never the turnaround for a city and comparing Lake Merritt/Lakeshore to the mall-ified Walnut Creek and Pleasant Hill is bad reasoning. </p>
<p>He should be looking at Pasadena and Redwood City for inspiration. Don Shoup, where are you when we need you?</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have the parking changes been in place long enough to make a difference one way or another?  How does anyone believe, at this point in the world, that things like parking can remain free?  We have to pay for space to live, space to shop... why is it so hard for people to accept that they will have to pay for space to park?  I drive, and I have never had a problem with paying for parking- in places where parking is too expensive or difficult, I take a bus or ride my bike or walk.  This is not rocket science.  If paying 50 cents more for an hour of parking means you can&#039;t shop, then the reality is you couldn&#039;t shop in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have the parking changes been in place long enough to make a difference one way or another?  How does anyone believe, at this point in the world, that things like parking can remain free?  We have to pay for space to live, space to shop&#8230; why is it so hard for people to accept that they will have to pay for space to park?  I drive, and I have never had a problem with paying for parking- in places where parking is too expensive or difficult, I take a bus or ride my bike or walk.  This is not rocket science.  If paying 50 cents more for an hour of parking means you can&#8217;t shop, then the reality is you couldn&#8217;t shop in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HMMM. That&#039;s funny. 

Michaan&#039;s own website advertises 4 hours of free parking just across the street.
http://www.renaissancerialto.com/masters/grandl~1/GLparking.htm

&quot;It&#039;s an attack on the community.&quot;

Please.

This guy is full of hot air, among other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HMMM. That&#8217;s funny. </p>
<p>Michaan&#8217;s own website advertises 4 hours of free parking just across the street.<br />
<a href="http://www.renaissancerialto.com/masters/grandl~1/GLparking.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.renaissancerialto.com/masters/grandl~1/GLparking.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s an attack on the community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please.</p>
<p>This guy is full of hot air, among other things.</p>
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		<title>By: dto510</title>
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		<dc:creator>dto510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce did more than just &quot;advise the Council&quot; they don&#039;t like parking fees - they sent out a mass email lying about the fees and blaming Councilmember Rebecca Kaplan for them, even though she didn&#039;t make the proposal. It&#039;s very disappointing that the Oakland Chamber is consistently anti-transit, and may be one reason why other Oakland business groups like the Builders&#039; Alliance and the Chinatown Chamber are starting and growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce did more than just &#8220;advise the Council&#8221; they don&#8217;t like parking fees &#8211; they sent out a mass email lying about the fees and blaming Councilmember Rebecca Kaplan for them, even though she didn&#8217;t make the proposal. It&#8217;s very disappointing that the Oakland Chamber is consistently anti-transit, and may be one reason why other Oakland business groups like the Builders&#8217; Alliance and the Chinatown Chamber are starting and growing.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oakland ain&#039;t Petaluma.  Unless you&#039;re in Jack London Square, and then yep, you might as well be in Petaluma.  I actually like Petaluma, they have a decent bus station even though its segregated from the downtown streets.  But these guys have it all wrong if they think the best thing is to recreate a Petaluma-like situation in a much denser urban place.  

Free parking now!  Cheaper, highly subsidized cars (cash for clunkers)!  Like the nonsense of Obama Birthers bemoaning the racial and ethnic change in America via Obama-as-synecdoche, these are the last desperate gasps of small c conservatives facing the death pangs of automobility. These claims just do not make sense, and they are desperate as hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oakland ain&#8217;t Petaluma.  Unless you&#8217;re in Jack London Square, and then yep, you might as well be in Petaluma.  I actually like Petaluma, they have a decent bus station even though its segregated from the downtown streets.  But these guys have it all wrong if they think the best thing is to recreate a Petaluma-like situation in a much denser urban place.  </p>
<p>Free parking now!  Cheaper, highly subsidized cars (cash for clunkers)!  Like the nonsense of Obama Birthers bemoaning the racial and ethnic change in America via Obama-as-synecdoche, these are the last desperate gasps of small c conservatives facing the death pangs of automobility. These claims just do not make sense, and they are desperate as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the data on lost business?  Really, would someone buy a gallon of gas to drive to the next town and back instead of paying for parking?  I&#039;m sure the City is more than willing to conduct some fairly easy studies to verify the merchant complaints.  
The bum hip rap is kind of bogus, since bum hip drivers are usually accompanied by handicap parking placards, and therefore, have special rights and privileges.  It&#039;s been several years since I&#039;ve seen the sea of empty parking spots near the Theatre. Merchants beware of what you ask for. I have a sneaking suspision that they can boost business from foot and bike traffic, and, yes, greater turnover in car parking. Mr Michaan has a penchant for re-calling a lot of things, most of which only stir emotions, not revolution. Spend $$ on ped and bike friendly facilities, not recalls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the data on lost business?  Really, would someone buy a gallon of gas to drive to the next town and back instead of paying for parking?  I&#8217;m sure the City is more than willing to conduct some fairly easy studies to verify the merchant complaints.<br />
The bum hip rap is kind of bogus, since bum hip drivers are usually accompanied by handicap parking placards, and therefore, have special rights and privileges.  It&#8217;s been several years since I&#8217;ve seen the sea of empty parking spots near the Theatre. Merchants beware of what you ask for. I have a sneaking suspision that they can boost business from foot and bike traffic, and, yes, greater turnover in car parking. Mr Michaan has a penchant for re-calling a lot of things, most of which only stir emotions, not revolution. Spend $$ on ped and bike friendly facilities, not recalls.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in Berkeley, I would often either walk (gulp, yes it was a distance) or take the bus to Grand Lake.  Never drove.  Ever.  Business are not doing well because people are broke.  Making meters free will just encourage squatting and/or they will be as empty as they are now.  Driving a car isn&#039;t free people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in Berkeley, I would often either walk (gulp, yes it was a distance) or take the bus to Grand Lake.  Never drove.  Ever.  Business are not doing well because people are broke.  Making meters free will just encourage squatting and/or they will be as empty as they are now.  Driving a car isn&#8217;t free people.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I live within three blocks of Walgreens,&quot; Martinez said, &quot;but I don&#039;t feel safe going there.&quot;

That says it all right there! It&#039;s not the parking, it&#039;s the crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I live within three blocks of Walgreens,&#8221; Martinez said, &#8220;but I don&#8217;t feel safe going there.&#8221;</p>
<p>That says it all right there! It&#8217;s not the parking, it&#8217;s the crime.</p>
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