Comments on: Eyes on the Street: Timber! San Jose/Guerrero Plaza Gets Tree Stumps http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: FRACTLEFOUNDATION http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-59001 FRACTLEFOUNDATION Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:50:04 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-59001 MY WINDOW IS VISIBLE WITHIN THE DOCUMENTED PICTURES OF THIS ARTICLE. I RECALL YOUNG PEOPLE ON LOCATION OF THE INTERSECTION, ARMED WITH CLIPBOARDS & PENS- I WAS NEVER ASKED PERSONALLY NOR INFORMED RECEIVED OR OBSERVED THESE SO CALLED POSTED "INVITATIONS" IMPLEMENTED..... THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT UNDERLINES THE SEMANTICS BEHIND THE MOVES CONSTRUCTED BY POLITICS, GIVING RECORD OF POSITIVE EFFORT SANDWICHED THIN AMONG DISHONEST CHESS PLAY. TODAY I TOOK HEED TO A NOTICE TO CUT DOWN A TREE ACROSS FROM THEIR POOR ATTEMPT OF PARK BIRTH..... THIS PISSES ME OFF...I'M TAKING A STAND. MY WINDOW IS VISIBLE WITHIN THE DOCUMENTED PICTURES OF THIS ARTICLE. I RECALL YOUNG PEOPLE ON LOCATION OF THE INTERSECTION, ARMED WITH CLIPBOARDS & PENS-
I WAS NEVER ASKED PERSONALLY NOR INFORMED RECEIVED OR OBSERVED THESE SO CALLED POSTED “INVITATIONS” IMPLEMENTED…..
THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT UNDERLINES THE SEMANTICS BEHIND THE MOVES CONSTRUCTED BY POLITICS, GIVING RECORD OF POSITIVE EFFORT SANDWICHED THIN AMONG DISHONEST CHESS PLAY. TODAY I TOOK HEED TO A NOTICE TO CUT DOWN A TREE ACROSS FROM THEIR POOR ATTEMPT OF PARK BIRTH…..
THIS PISSES ME OFF…I’M TAKING A STAND.

]]> By: momma23monkeys http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-40381 momma23monkeys Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:56:36 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-40381 SO NOT TRUE! I know of at least 7 neighbors that were left out (intentionally?) of any part of the planning. I don't know who's doors they taped their "invitations" to but it wasn't on any of ours and please forgive me for not stopping to read every pole on the street for information as to what's going on right in front of my house. Silly me for thinking that anyone would bother to inform those of us that this "PARK" directly affects as to what's going on right in front of our homes. Goes to show you how anyone can come to your neighborhood, decide what would be best for you and do it with you none the wiser. SO NOT TRUE! I know of at least 7 neighbors that were left out (intentionally?) of any part of the planning. I don’t know who’s doors they taped their “invitations” to but it wasn’t on any of ours and please forgive me for not stopping to read every pole on the street for information as to what’s going on right in front of my house. Silly me for thinking that anyone would bother to inform those of us that this “PARK” directly affects as to what’s going on right in front of our homes. Goes to show you how anyone can come to your neighborhood, decide what would be best for you and do it with you none the wiser.

]]> By: steve http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-36851 steve Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:51:34 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-36851 Drove by to take a look earlier this week, and I completely retract my earlier post! Doesn't even look like a neighborhood park, more like a city public works storage yard. The stainless steel planters don't seem to have anything to do with the Eucalyptus logs, which don't appear to have been cut down on-site at all. The right turn should have been after the bulb out to slow down cars. The planters will just hide pedestrians stepping out across the street. Good luck to nearby neighbors getting the city to redo this mess. Maybe the planters can be salvaged and re-arranged, but I'd like to see the traffic flow reworked, maybe a one-way right turn from San Jose onto Guerrero, and more pavement removed so trees could be planted in solid ground. Again, sorry for my earlier comments, no pee in my grapenuts this morning! Drove by to take a look earlier this week, and I completely retract my earlier post! Doesn’t even look like a neighborhood park, more like a city public works storage yard. The stainless steel planters don’t seem to have anything to do with the Eucalyptus logs, which don’t appear to have been cut down on-site at all. The right turn should have been after the bulb out to slow down cars. The planters will just hide pedestrians stepping out across the street.

Good luck to nearby neighbors getting the city to redo this mess. Maybe the planters can be salvaged and re-arranged, but I’d like to see the traffic flow reworked, maybe a one-way right turn from San Jose onto Guerrero, and more pavement removed so trees could be planted in solid ground. Again, sorry for my earlier comments, no pee in my grapenuts this morning!

]]> By: AP http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-34701 AP Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:46:01 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-34701 @David. Not quite true. There was a community meeting at which at least 40 people attended about six weeks before the plaza was constructed. The neighborhood was posted about a week before that. All the properties around the space had invitations taped to their doors. Also, this site was recommended as an open space improvement in a plan commissioned by the neighborhood in 2004. @David. Not quite true. There was a community meeting at which at least 40 people attended about six weeks before the plaza was constructed. The neighborhood was posted about a week before that. All the properties around the space had invitations taped to their doors. Also, this site was recommended as an open space improvement in a plan commissioned by the neighborhood in 2004.

]]> By: david http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-34441 david Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:30:38 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-34441 was walking by and asked a gentleman walking out of a house nearby what was going on. he said it just appeared and no one consulted any on in the area about the project. was walking by and asked a gentleman walking out of a house nearby what was going on. he said it just appeared and no one consulted any on in the area about the project.

]]> By: Robert West http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-32591 Robert West Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:35:38 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-32591 Have a name for the park yet? How about Tin Can Alley? Have a name for the park yet? How about Tin Can Alley?

]]> By: Distorto Blotto http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-31481 Distorto Blotto Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:53:38 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-31481 Hey Steve, Someone pee in your grapenuts this morning? This projact is half assed at best. Why is it people like you that push their agenda's have to automaticly term others as being negative when they do not agree? Maybe you would like to discuss this with the neighbor that has already had a couple of grand worth of damage performed on his home by a hit and run driver because of this fiasco. Go blow smoke up someone elses backside! Hey Steve, Someone pee in your grapenuts this morning? This projact is half assed at best.

Why is it people like you that push their agenda’s have to automaticly term others as being negative when they do not agree?

Maybe you would like to discuss this with the neighbor that has already had a couple of grand worth of damage performed on his home by a hit and run driver because of this fiasco.

Go blow smoke up someone elses backside!

]]> By: Jeremiah Schaub http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-31431 Jeremiah Schaub Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:32:44 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-31431 I understand the logs were being cut to size onsite, I still just think they're too big. And my comment was only in relation to the story, not to the actual project. Construction photos always look messy. Please don't take comments on blogs so personally. I understand the logs were being cut to size onsite, I still just think they’re too big. And my comment was only in relation to the story, not to the actual project. Construction photos always look messy. Please don’t take comments on blogs so personally.

]]> By: Jamison Wieser http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-31421 Jamison Wieser Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:59:42 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-31421 Seriously. I'm having trouble visualizing what the end product will look like and I haven't seen any drawings that were detailed enough to show what this planter will look like. There was a fountain shown in rendering posted here before, which isn't as unique as this will be, whatever the final product looks like. Seriously. I’m having trouble visualizing what the end product will look like and I haven’t seen any drawings that were detailed enough to show what this planter will look like. There was a fountain shown in rendering posted here before, which isn’t as unique as this will be, whatever the final product looks like.

]]> By: steve http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-31371 steve Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:17:48 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-31371 Give me a break! Or better yet, give the park planners a break! If you bothered to read the text, or look at the pictures, it was obvious the logs were being cut down to size on-site. Why do have to post negative comments, when you haven't bothered to look more closely at the project? This is so typical of local neighborhood reaction. Hey, bother to go to the planning meetings, bother to look at the architectural drawings, bother to participate, or don't bother to bore us with your late and contrary comments. Give me a break! Or better yet, give the park planners a break! If you bothered to read the text, or look at the pictures, it was obvious the logs were being cut down to size on-site. Why do have to post negative comments, when you haven’t bothered to look more closely at the project? This is so typical of local neighborhood reaction. Hey, bother to go to the planning meetings, bother to look at the architectural drawings, bother to participate, or don’t bother to bore us with your late and contrary comments.

]]> By: Mathilde http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-31341 Mathilde Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:34:15 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-31341 I agree with Jeremiah. It looks like a very well-intentioned, but unskilled DIY project gone awry. The scale of the tree trunks also dwarf that small patch of land. Flora Grubb. . . . save us! I agree with Jeremiah. It looks like a very well-intentioned, but unskilled DIY project gone awry. The scale of the tree trunks also dwarf that small patch of land. Flora Grubb. . . . save us!

]]> By: Jeremiah Schaub http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/08/31/eyes-on-the-street-timber-san-joseguerrero-plaza-gets-tree-stumps/comment-page-1/#comment-31321 Jeremiah Schaub Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:16:51 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=35161#comment-31321 I love the idea of using cheap/free materials, but this really just looks like trash strewn around after a windstorm. I love the idea of using cheap/free materials, but this really just looks like trash strewn around after a windstorm.

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