Comments on: Oakland City Council Delays Parking Vote for Two Weeks http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/09/23/oakland-city-council-delays-parking-vote-for-two-weeks/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jaded http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/09/23/oakland-city-council-delays-parking-vote-for-two-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-41531 jaded Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:39:20 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=48081#comment-41531 Maybe I am crazy. I think part of city living is parking meters. I mean Berkeley has ridiculously overzealous meter enforcement. So does SF. Does that stop people from visiting. And most of the areas in Oakland with a ton of meters have free 2-4 hour parking 1-2 blocks from the meters. When I am too cheap to pay for meters (always) I walk a little further. The only time I pay the meter actually, is when i head over to Piedmont Ave. I usually suck it up and pay the meter. I do agree with the commentary on the length of time at the meters. In the Grand-Lake area, 2 hours is not enough. And well it discourages me from doing more than Trader Joes in the neighborhood. But it is more of an issue of the 2 hours, and not anything else. Near my office in SF, meters are $3/hr. And other nearby meters are the same and turn into no parking zones early in the afternoon. People either take transit, or pay for costly lots. Why can't Oakland have the same? Maybe I am crazy. I think part of city living is parking meters. I mean Berkeley has ridiculously overzealous meter enforcement. So does SF. Does that stop people from visiting.

And most of the areas in Oakland with a ton of meters have free 2-4 hour parking 1-2 blocks from the meters. When I am too cheap to pay for meters (always) I walk a little further. The only time I pay the meter actually, is when i head over to Piedmont Ave. I usually suck it up and pay the meter. I do agree with the commentary on the length of time at the meters. In the Grand-Lake area, 2 hours is not enough. And well it discourages me from doing more than Trader Joes in the neighborhood. But it is more of an issue of the 2 hours, and not anything else.

Near my office in SF, meters are $3/hr. And other nearby meters are the same and turn into no parking zones early in the afternoon. People either take transit, or pay for costly lots. Why can’t Oakland have the same?

]]> By: Drunk Engineer http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/09/23/oakland-city-council-delays-parking-vote-for-two-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-38441 Drunk Engineer Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:21:43 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=48081#comment-38441 I'm sure there are some who will flame this comment...but parking enforcement and meter revenue should not be used to bolster the city's finances. Even Dr. Shoup says so. It is pretty clear that Oakland intended the increased parking fines and enforcement simply as a way of closing the budget deficit -- and had nothing to do with doing market-rate parking management. The real "progressive" solution would be to do the following: 1. Ticket revenue from speed enforcement should go to local city General Fund 2. Ticket revenue from parking enforcement should go to fund for local business district Because cities get no revenue from speed tickets, they do zero traffic enforcement. Whereas cities do get LOTS of revenue from parking tickets. Result: overzealous parking enforcement that infuriates residents -- and totally non-existent speed enforcement. I’m sure there are some who will flame this comment…but parking enforcement and meter revenue should not be used to bolster the city’s finances.

Even Dr. Shoup says so.

It is pretty clear that Oakland intended the increased parking fines and enforcement simply as a way of closing the budget deficit — and had nothing to do with doing market-rate parking management.

The real “progressive” solution would be to do the following:
1. Ticket revenue from speed enforcement should go to local city General Fund
2. Ticket revenue from parking enforcement should go to fund for local business district

Because cities get no revenue from speed tickets, they do zero traffic enforcement. Whereas cities do get LOTS of revenue from parking tickets.

Result: overzealous parking enforcement that infuriates residents — and totally non-existent speed enforcement.

]]> By: Susan http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/09/23/oakland-city-council-delays-parking-vote-for-two-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-38341 Susan Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:53:52 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=48081#comment-38341 If Alameda resident Allen Michaan was the progressive he claims to be, he would ask the City of Oakland to replace four parking spaces in front of his theater with on-street bike parking. This would draw the progressive, self-propelled, young people who have recently taken up residence in Uptown, Temescal and around Lake Merritt. But as of now, he is viewed as the leader of the car-huggers and facing a boycott by young progressive people. That may explain why business is down. What a missed opportunity. Perhaps the next owner of the Grand Lake will be someone who realizes market advantage in tapping into the eco-hipseters of the New Oakland. If Alameda resident Allen Michaan was the progressive he claims to be, he would ask the City of Oakland to replace four parking spaces in front of his theater with on-street bike parking. This would draw the progressive, self-propelled, young people who have recently taken up residence in Uptown, Temescal and around Lake Merritt.

But as of now, he is viewed as the leader of the car-huggers and facing a boycott by young progressive people. That may explain why business is down.

What a missed opportunity.

Perhaps the next owner of the Grand Lake will be someone who realizes market advantage in tapping into the eco-hipseters of the New Oakland.

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