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	<title>Comments on: Hit-and-Run Driver Who Killed Bicyclist Claims No Knowledge of Crash</title>
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		<title>By: murphstahoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>murphstahoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - if a professional driver cannot handle cyclist or pedestrians on the road, they should find a different job.

Gravel on the side of the road is not a road. To say that she should be on that is akin to me saying &quot;Parallel to Shoreway is Highway 101 - THAT IS WHERE THE TRUCKS SHOULD BE&quot;.

Your last comment - natural selection. Shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; if a professional driver cannot handle cyclist or pedestrians on the road, they should find a different job.</p>
<p>Gravel on the side of the road is not a road. To say that she should be on that is akin to me saying &#8220;Parallel to Shoreway is Highway 101 &#8211; THAT IS WHERE THE TRUCKS SHOULD BE&#8221;.</p>
<p>Your last comment &#8211; natural selection. Shit.</p>
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		<title>By: FYI</title>
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		<dc:creator>FYI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at a business on shoreway rd, &amp; this individual always rode her bike way too close to the trucks. Shoreway Rd has high volume traffic of commercial trucks - especially with the demolition &amp; construction work going on - and is not a road that bicyclists or pedestrians should travel. She was in an area of Shoreway Rd where there&#039;s gravel &amp; THAT is where she should have waited for the light to turn - NOT UP NEXT TO THE TRANSFER TRUCK. Yes, it is a tragedy, but common knowledge is not to wait next to a truck of that size which is turning. Natural Selection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at a business on shoreway rd, &amp; this individual always rode her bike way too close to the trucks. Shoreway Rd has high volume traffic of commercial trucks &#8211; especially with the demolition &amp; construction work going on &#8211; and is not a road that bicyclists or pedestrians should travel. She was in an area of Shoreway Rd where there&#8217;s gravel &amp; THAT is where she should have waited for the light to turn &#8211; NOT UP NEXT TO THE TRANSFER TRUCK. Yes, it is a tragedy, but common knowledge is not to wait next to a truck of that size which is turning. Natural Selection.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary has been my friend for almost 50 years. We grew up together in the same small town just outside Chicago.  She introduced me to my husband Jim almost 25 years ago when they were both in a San Francisco cycling club.  Mary and I did a lot of traveling and hiking together in the 1970s and 80s. One thing we could never do together was bicycling because I could never keep up with her!  She was a true athlete who once hiked to the top of Mount Tamalpais and immediately turned around and did it again just for the exercise!  She was also a kind, gentle soul who seldom uttered a mean word about anybody.  I will miss her terribly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary has been my friend for almost 50 years. We grew up together in the same small town just outside Chicago.  She introduced me to my husband Jim almost 25 years ago when they were both in a San Francisco cycling club.  Mary and I did a lot of traveling and hiking together in the 1970s and 80s. One thing we could never do together was bicycling because I could never keep up with her!  She was a true athlete who once hiked to the top of Mount Tamalpais and immediately turned around and did it again just for the exercise!  She was also a kind, gentle soul who seldom uttered a mean word about anybody.  I will miss her terribly.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Mary&#039;s sister-in-law in Michigan and want to thank everybody for their kind comments and compassion shared with us while her brother and I were in San Mateo this past 6 days.  We can&#039;t thank you enough.  We will be with you in spirit at the Celebration of her Life on Saturday.

Mary had a kind heart and wouldn&#039;t want all of this arguing or finger pointing.  As said many times, nobody will ever know exactly what happened or why.  She would want all of us to learn from this, help each other through it and have compassion.  The truck driver and his family are suffering just like all of us.  

Let&#039;s follow Mary&#039;s example and help each other, be kinder and more respectful of everybody.  We&#039;re all here together with different interests and there&#039;s room for improvement in all of us.

On behalf of the Yonkers family, thank you for all of the kind memories and comments.  We truly appreciate them and know she was well loved in CA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Mary&#8217;s sister-in-law in Michigan and want to thank everybody for their kind comments and compassion shared with us while her brother and I were in San Mateo this past 6 days.  We can&#8217;t thank you enough.  We will be with you in spirit at the Celebration of her Life on Saturday.</p>
<p>Mary had a kind heart and wouldn&#8217;t want all of this arguing or finger pointing.  As said many times, nobody will ever know exactly what happened or why.  She would want all of us to learn from this, help each other through it and have compassion.  The truck driver and his family are suffering just like all of us.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s follow Mary&#8217;s example and help each other, be kinder and more respectful of everybody.  We&#8217;re all here together with different interests and there&#8217;s room for improvement in all of us.</p>
<p>On behalf of the Yonkers family, thank you for all of the kind memories and comments.  We truly appreciate them and know she was well loved in CA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how each side blames the other. Truth, when on a bike, you need to be defensive. I road many years, and I always gave the right of way to the cars. That is a battle you won&#039;t win. The same holds true now that I ride motorcycles. If a bike rider wonders why a driver is irritated, maybe because you hogged the lane, than at a stop light, you sneak by the side, and then role through the red light. If you want respect, you must earn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how each side blames the other. Truth, when on a bike, you need to be defensive. I road many years, and I always gave the right of way to the cars. That is a battle you won&#8217;t win. The same holds true now that I ride motorcycles. If a bike rider wonders why a driver is irritated, maybe because you hogged the lane, than at a stop light, you sneak by the side, and then role through the red light. If you want respect, you must earn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was Mary&#039;s roommate for 20+ years and knew her for 25 years. In that amount of time you would think you would know everything about a person. After her death I found out that I knew very little about her. I knew that she was a likeable person and had many friends but I had no idea how many people she had helped with personal problems and how she had affected so many lives. One lady told me Mary was an Angel on earth. Of course most of us knew of her love for animals. It is such a shame she did not know how much she would be misses by so many people. There will be a Celebration Of Life for Mary on Sat. Oct.24 at the Laguna Vista Clubhouse at 3324 Kimberly Way San Mateo from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m. Please bring an appetizer to share for our potluck table. In lieu of flowers please donate to the Peninsula Humane Society/SPCA in Mary&#039;s name. Moe and I are liiking forware to meeting you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was Mary&#8217;s roommate for 20+ years and knew her for 25 years. In that amount of time you would think you would know everything about a person. After her death I found out that I knew very little about her. I knew that she was a likeable person and had many friends but I had no idea how many people she had helped with personal problems and how she had affected so many lives. One lady told me Mary was an Angel on earth. Of course most of us knew of her love for animals. It is such a shame she did not know how much she would be misses by so many people. There will be a Celebration Of Life for Mary on Sat. Oct.24 at the Laguna Vista Clubhouse at 3324 Kimberly Way San Mateo from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m. Please bring an appetizer to share for our potluck table. In lieu of flowers please donate to the Peninsula Humane Society/SPCA in Mary&#8217;s name. Moe and I are liiking forware to meeting you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will forever be a void in my life. She was such a wonderful person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will forever be a void in my life. She was such a wonderful person.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that large trucks should be banned is just as ridiculous as the idea of banning bikes from streets. Do you want the cement for you sidewalk delivered? Groceries to get to your store? Your trash picked up? The fact is, most people, bicyclests, regular car drivers, and pedestrians, have no clue about what a truck can and cannot do when it is driving down the road. No, trucks cannot stop on a dime. Nor can they make anything resembling a sharp turn. What this usually means is that the truck driver has to swing the truck out wide and then in to make the turn. The driver will try to do what&#039;s called &quot;controlling the lane&quot; by keeping part of their tail in the turn lane to block following traffic while swinging the nose out wide anough so that the whole truck will follow safely around the turn while being in sight through its mirrors, but that is not always possible. What I see happen all the time are cars, bikes, and pedestrians coming into that turn path. People, wake up!! There is no guarantee that the truck driver will see you, let alone be able to stop in time, and you WILL lose if you get in that turn path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that large trucks should be banned is just as ridiculous as the idea of banning bikes from streets. Do you want the cement for you sidewalk delivered? Groceries to get to your store? Your trash picked up? The fact is, most people, bicyclests, regular car drivers, and pedestrians, have no clue about what a truck can and cannot do when it is driving down the road. No, trucks cannot stop on a dime. Nor can they make anything resembling a sharp turn. What this usually means is that the truck driver has to swing the truck out wide and then in to make the turn. The driver will try to do what&#8217;s called &#8220;controlling the lane&#8221; by keeping part of their tail in the turn lane to block following traffic while swinging the nose out wide anough so that the whole truck will follow safely around the turn while being in sight through its mirrors, but that is not always possible. What I see happen all the time are cars, bikes, and pedestrians coming into that turn path. People, wake up!! There is no guarantee that the truck driver will see you, let alone be able to stop in time, and you WILL lose if you get in that turn path.</p>
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		<title>By: Foster City Bike Trail Friend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foster City Bike Trail Friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rebecca and Patricia,

Many of us would like to join in the celebration of Mary&#039;s life. 
Please share details.

Foster City Bike Trail Friend of Mary &amp; Moe
Bike.Trail.friend@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rebecca and Patricia,</p>
<p>Many of us would like to join in the celebration of Mary&#8217;s life.<br />
Please share details.</p>
<p>Foster City Bike Trail Friend of Mary &amp; Moe<br />
<a href="mailto:Bike.Trail.friend@gmail.com">Bike.Trail.friend@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only person who will ever know what really happened is Mary.  We can speculate but will probably never know.

Patricia - thank you for your kinds words about Mary.  I&#039;ve known her for many years through cycling and will miss seeing her on the bike path and will miss riding next to her chatting about life&#039;s challenges.

For those of you who have questioned safety - Mary always had a helmet and would never listen to music - she was as safety conscience as any cyclist could be.  She rode everywhere and was aware of the dangers of being on a bike around cars. And she took her own safety very seriously.

It&#039;s time to stop blaming.  Cars and bikes will both be part of our roadways and perhaps we could better spend our energy looking for solutions to improve dangerous intersections.  As a commuter myself, I have had many close calls and know that close calls are part of the risk. 

Let&#039;s celebrate Mary&#039;s life for the gentle soul that she was and remember her for her contributions to our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only person who will ever know what really happened is Mary.  We can speculate but will probably never know.</p>
<p>Patricia &#8211; thank you for your kinds words about Mary.  I&#8217;ve known her for many years through cycling and will miss seeing her on the bike path and will miss riding next to her chatting about life&#8217;s challenges.</p>
<p>For those of you who have questioned safety &#8211; Mary always had a helmet and would never listen to music &#8211; she was as safety conscience as any cyclist could be.  She rode everywhere and was aware of the dangers of being on a bike around cars. And she took her own safety very seriously.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to stop blaming.  Cars and bikes will both be part of our roadways and perhaps we could better spend our energy looking for solutions to improve dangerous intersections.  As a commuter myself, I have had many close calls and know that close calls are part of the risk. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s celebrate Mary&#8217;s life for the gentle soul that she was and remember her for her contributions to our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vehicles that are so large that you do not notice if you have struck and crushed a human being should not be allowed on roads with human beings.  Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vehicles that are so large that you do not notice if you have struck and crushed a human being should not be allowed on roads with human beings.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Foster City Bike Trail Friend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foster City Bike Trail Friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Patricia,

Please contact me at Bike.Trail.friend@gmail.com.
 
I like Barry&#039;s idea (from the other blog) to make a memorial donation to the Peninsula SPCA. 

We will run on Sunday morning and remember Mary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patricia,</p>
<p>Please contact me at <a href="mailto:Bike.Trail.friend@gmail.com">Bike.Trail.friend@gmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>I like Barry&#8217;s idea (from the other blog) to make a memorial donation to the Peninsula SPCA. </p>
<p>We will run on Sunday morning and remember Mary.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Foster City friend,
 Moe and everyone are heart sick about all of this...
Is there any way I can contact you besides here?
Thank you for wonderful post on the other site...
Patricia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Foster City friend,<br />
 Moe and everyone are heart sick about all of this&#8230;<br />
Is there any way I can contact you besides here?<br />
Thank you for wonderful post on the other site&#8230;<br />
Patricia</p>
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		<title>By: Foster City Bike Trail Friend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foster City Bike Trail Friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia: Thank you for letting everyone know that Mary was a wonderful person. After reading another stream of comments, I too was compelled to weigh in.

http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/bicyclist-killed-in-redwood-city-hit-and-run/comment-page-1/#comment-45761

Please let us know if there will be a celebration of Mary&#039;s life and also who will take care of her precious puppy Moe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia: Thank you for letting everyone know that Mary was a wonderful person. After reading another stream of comments, I too was compelled to weigh in.</p>
<p><a href="http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/bicyclist-killed-in-redwood-city-hit-and-run/comment-page-1/#comment-45761" rel="nofollow">http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/14/bicyclist-killed-in-redwood-city-hit-and-run/comment-page-1/#comment-45761</a></p>
<p>Please let us know if there will be a celebration of Mary&#8217;s life and also who will take care of her precious puppy Moe.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading your posts this afternoon as I just found out these posts were here. 
It was Mary Yonkers. She was a wonderful woman who was my neighbor and friend. She loved animals,she took care of all the animals in our neighbor hood when we were away.
Mary rode her bike to work everyday. This road was not new to her.She rode her bike everywhere with her helmet on. She was a Very safe bike rider.
I was not there. I cannot say what happened, except for this was a horrible accident.
I am missing her so much.As everyone else in our little community.
She was a very kind woman. She would want all of you to be kind also.
We never know why we leave this earth when we do.
I know Mary is here in our hearts.....
Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading your posts this afternoon as I just found out these posts were here.<br />
It was Mary Yonkers. She was a wonderful woman who was my neighbor and friend. She loved animals,she took care of all the animals in our neighbor hood when we were away.<br />
Mary rode her bike to work everyday. This road was not new to her.She rode her bike everywhere with her helmet on. She was a Very safe bike rider.<br />
I was not there. I cannot say what happened, except for this was a horrible accident.<br />
I am missing her so much.As everyone else in our little community.<br />
She was a very kind woman. She would want all of you to be kind also.<br />
We never know why we leave this earth when we do.<br />
I know Mary is here in our hearts&#8230;..<br />
Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Andy N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Schmoe - 

Biggest I&#039;ve driven is a 32 foot truck, a 32&#039; RV, and a WWII Dodge PowerWagon. Basically the limit of my Class C/M1 license.  I&#039;d love the chance to try driving something truly big &amp; heavy (I won&#039;t tell the DMV if you won&#039;t.)  What have you got to offer?

In return, I&#039;ll loan you my 20 pound roadbike, and we&#039;ll spend a day or two riding in traffic.  You won&#039;t need any spandex - lord knows I never wear it.   Helmet will be your choice, but no iPods allowed - I&#039;m not suicidal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Schmoe &#8211; </p>
<p>Biggest I&#8217;ve driven is a 32 foot truck, a 32&#8242; RV, and a WWII Dodge PowerWagon. Basically the limit of my Class C/M1 license.  I&#8217;d love the chance to try driving something truly big &amp; heavy (I won&#8217;t tell the DMV if you won&#8217;t.)  What have you got to offer?</p>
<p>In return, I&#8217;ll loan you my 20 pound roadbike, and we&#8217;ll spend a day or two riding in traffic.  You won&#8217;t need any spandex &#8211; lord knows I never wear it.   Helmet will be your choice, but no iPods allowed &#8211; I&#8217;m not suicidal.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Paquette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Paquette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a professional driver, and I think that some of the comments about the dump driver miss the point. The area around any big vehicle is a danger zone, but one which is entirely the responsibility of the driver. A good driver knows that and is careful, and especially careful on dangerous roads. If I&#039;m driving, and I have a blind spot, then I KNOW that I don&#039;t know what may be in it. I don&#039;t assume that my blind spot is empty, than blame whatever gets squashed for being there.

Regarding &quot;passing on the right&quot;. Imagine the comments if she had been hit from behind in the traffic lane.

Motor vehicles are loaded weapons. Drivers are responsible for them. I&#039;ve never heard of someone getting hit and killed by a bicycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a professional driver, and I think that some of the comments about the dump driver miss the point. The area around any big vehicle is a danger zone, but one which is entirely the responsibility of the driver. A good driver knows that and is careful, and especially careful on dangerous roads. If I&#8217;m driving, and I have a blind spot, then I KNOW that I don&#8217;t know what may be in it. I don&#8217;t assume that my blind spot is empty, than blame whatever gets squashed for being there.</p>
<p>Regarding &#8220;passing on the right&#8221;. Imagine the comments if she had been hit from behind in the traffic lane.</p>
<p>Motor vehicles are loaded weapons. Drivers are responsible for them. I&#8217;ve never heard of someone getting hit and killed by a bicycle.</p>
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		<title>By: daphne</title>
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		<dc:creator>daphne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you bike somewhere dangerous every day, the odds of something bad happening increase accordingly.

Shoreline near Holly is one of those dangerous places.  Garbage trucks are constantly driving up and down Shoreway, every weekday, because that&#039;s where the transfer station is.  They always drive the same route (turn right onto Holly from Shoreline).  They&#039;re impossible not to notice when you&#039;re on a bike...if not the sound then by the smell.

On Shoreway, between the transfer station and Holly, there is no bike lane, the pavement is terrible, it&#039;s not particularly scenic, and it smells bad.  If you want to go South, I recommend Twin Dolphin for that stretch.  It&#039;s got striping, nice views, and there&#039;s no giant trucks or potholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you bike somewhere dangerous every day, the odds of something bad happening increase accordingly.</p>
<p>Shoreline near Holly is one of those dangerous places.  Garbage trucks are constantly driving up and down Shoreway, every weekday, because that&#8217;s where the transfer station is.  They always drive the same route (turn right onto Holly from Shoreline).  They&#8217;re impossible not to notice when you&#8217;re on a bike&#8230;if not the sound then by the smell.</p>
<p>On Shoreway, between the transfer station and Holly, there is no bike lane, the pavement is terrible, it&#8217;s not particularly scenic, and it smells bad.  If you want to go South, I recommend Twin Dolphin for that stretch.  It&#8217;s got striping, nice views, and there&#8217;s no giant trucks or potholes.</p>
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		<title>By: zsolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>zsolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments here are unbelievable. All the doubts about the cyclist&#039;s behavior and decisions. Why not apply the same method and &quot;ask questions&quot; of the driver&#039;s behavior and decisions? Was he talking on the cell phone? Was he not paying attention? Was he swerving suddenly and without warning? Did he ever check his surroundings and look in his mirror? And if it&#039;s &quot;obviously a dangerous area&quot; then why was nothing done about it by the municipalities? Why is it an obvious danger to get on your bike in this, supposedly so civilized part of the world?

This seems to have been an experienced biker. In those cases I always tend to assume that the biker is not to blame. You don&#039;t get to bike for decades on the roads without learning to recognize and avoid dangerous situations.

I have to say though, this one takes the cake:

&quot;Why the DMV doesn&#039;t outlaw bicycles on public roads to protect them is beyond me.&quot;

Excuse me while I pick my jaw off the floor. Calling John Forrester!

Looking beyond the fact that the DMV would not have the authority to outlaw anything, if I would follow your logic, the thing we should outlaw is actually automobiles and trucks. Or else, would you want to outlaw everything automobiles and trucks are a danger to, including bikers, pedestrians, children and seniors?? Everything BUT disciplining motor vehicles, eh?

Good god, man. And this after being almost run over by an aggravated BMW driver riding up on Broadway in Oakland this afternoon. Maybe I shouldn&#039;t have spit through his open window as he sped by, but you know, the fact that he honked at me and hurled his two ton vehicle at me only to stop a foot from me without the slightest provocation or law breaking on my part (yeah, taking the lane is allowed by law right?), it kind of clouded my judgement and I will always derive a certain amount of joy from the memory of him wiping, if for nothing else, just for my excellent aiming abilities. Freak accident -- my ass. I really try, and I&#039;m a nice guy. But sometimes it does feel like a war out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comments here are unbelievable. All the doubts about the cyclist&#8217;s behavior and decisions. Why not apply the same method and &#8220;ask questions&#8221; of the driver&#8217;s behavior and decisions? Was he talking on the cell phone? Was he not paying attention? Was he swerving suddenly and without warning? Did he ever check his surroundings and look in his mirror? And if it&#8217;s &#8220;obviously a dangerous area&#8221; then why was nothing done about it by the municipalities? Why is it an obvious danger to get on your bike in this, supposedly so civilized part of the world?</p>
<p>This seems to have been an experienced biker. In those cases I always tend to assume that the biker is not to blame. You don&#8217;t get to bike for decades on the roads without learning to recognize and avoid dangerous situations.</p>
<p>I have to say though, this one takes the cake:</p>
<p>&#8220;Why the DMV doesn&#8217;t outlaw bicycles on public roads to protect them is beyond me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excuse me while I pick my jaw off the floor. Calling John Forrester!</p>
<p>Looking beyond the fact that the DMV would not have the authority to outlaw anything, if I would follow your logic, the thing we should outlaw is actually automobiles and trucks. Or else, would you want to outlaw everything automobiles and trucks are a danger to, including bikers, pedestrians, children and seniors?? Everything BUT disciplining motor vehicles, eh?</p>
<p>Good god, man. And this after being almost run over by an aggravated BMW driver riding up on Broadway in Oakland this afternoon. Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t have spit through his open window as he sped by, but you know, the fact that he honked at me and hurled his two ton vehicle at me only to stop a foot from me without the slightest provocation or law breaking on my part (yeah, taking the lane is allowed by law right?), it kind of clouded my judgement and I will always derive a certain amount of joy from the memory of him wiping, if for nothing else, just for my excellent aiming abilities. Freak accident &#8212; my ass. I really try, and I&#8217;m a nice guy. But sometimes it does feel like a war out there.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary was obviously in a dangerous area and made a risky decision.  It cost her her life. The truck driver appears to not be at fault.  You have to be especially cautious when you are riding a bicycle on a public rode. I certainly wouldn&#039;t do it.Why not ride your bike on all the trails in the Shores instead of on a busy street?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary was obviously in a dangerous area and made a risky decision.  It cost her her life. The truck driver appears to not be at fault.  You have to be especially cautious when you are riding a bicycle on a public rode. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t do it.Why not ride your bike on all the trails in the Shores instead of on a busy street?</p>
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