Comments on: Streetfilms: NYC Bike Lanes 101 http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/20/streetfilms-nyc-bike-lanes-101/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:02:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: james http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/20/streetfilms-nyc-bike-lanes-101/comment-page-1/#comment-46751 james Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:51:16 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=68111#comment-46751 NYC puts SF to shame. They have miles of protected bike lanes and are going to install 5 more miles on the Upper West Side. Here in SF, we have yet to install our first foot of protected bike lane and there are no firm plans to install any at this time. We hail right turns on Market as some great advancement, and I suppose in the context of SF, it is. It makes an extremely unsafe condition on Market somewhat better but it is still way too dangerous for new riders to consider using it. NYC puts SF to shame. They have miles of protected bike lanes and are going to install 5 more miles on the Upper West Side. Here in SF, we have yet to install our first foot of protected bike lane and there are no firm plans to install any at this time.

We hail right turns on Market as some great advancement, and I suppose in the context of SF, it is. It makes an extremely unsafe condition on Market somewhat better but it is still way too dangerous for new riders to consider using it.

]]> By: Todd Edelman http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/20/streetfilms-nyc-bike-lanes-101/comment-page-1/#comment-46591 Todd Edelman Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:05:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=68111#comment-46591 Nice one, also pleasant representatives talkin about it. Towards the end one of the guys mentions traveling through a whole section of the West Side towards Soho or Tribeca etc without leaving a cycling facility, but what I am curious about is 1 - How long a trip takes/average speed, 2- How many times a cyclist stops on average and 3 - If DOT is considering any kind of Green Wave-type solution... Nice one, also pleasant representatives talkin about it.

Towards the end one of the guys mentions traveling through a whole section of the West Side towards Soho or Tribeca etc without leaving a cycling facility, but what I am curious about is 1 - How long a trip takes/average speed, 2- How many times a cyclist stops on average and 3 - If DOT is considering any kind of Green Wave-type solution...

]]> By: taomom http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/20/streetfilms-nyc-bike-lanes-101/comment-page-1/#comment-46571 taomom Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:36:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=68111#comment-46571 Also, if you have time,check out this video about bike infrastructure in Utrecht (the Netherlands) http://hembrow.blogspot.com/2009/10/bicycle-superhighway-from-1970s.html There are less groovy paint colors, but there are miles upon miles of lovely infrastructure. (Yes, it looks like they took out roadside parking in some places to accomplish it.) Of course, Holland, the bicycling capital of Europe, put all this in place in the 1970's. That puts us, what, 30 years behind? If you have patience to watch to the end, check out the massive amount of bike parking at the mall. Also, if you have time,check out this video about bike infrastructure in Utrecht (the Netherlands)

http://hembrow.blogspot.com/2009/10/bicycle-superhighway-from-1970s.html

There are less groovy paint colors, but there are miles upon miles of lovely infrastructure. (Yes, it looks like they took out roadside parking in some places to accomplish it.) Of course, Holland, the bicycling capital of Europe, put all this in place in the 1970's. That puts us, what, 30 years behind?

If you have patience to watch to the end, check out the massive amount of bike parking at the mall.

]]> By: taomom http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/20/streetfilms-nyc-bike-lanes-101/comment-page-1/#comment-46491 taomom Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:57:38 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=68111#comment-46491 Very nice to see how quickly New York is moving ahead in this area (leaving us choking in their metaphorical dust.) This type of infrastructure would triple the number of bicyclists in San Francisco. My only beef is with sharrows. As a bicyclist they make me happy, but as a driver I pretty much ignore them completely. The signs (upright, not on pavement) saying "Cars share this lane with bicycles" are more effective. Very nice to see how quickly New York is moving ahead in this area (leaving us choking in their metaphorical dust.) This type of infrastructure would triple the number of bicyclists in San Francisco. My only beef is with sharrows. As a bicyclist they make me happy, but as a driver I pretty much ignore them completely. The signs (upright, not on pavement) saying "Cars share this lane with bicycles" are more effective.

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