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	<title>Comments on: Eyes on the Street: San Francisco Gets First New Bike Lanes in Three Years</title>
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		<title>By: ZA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sooo...how much would renovating/redesigning the southern path cost? That would effectively double the Panhandle capacity for all users without impacting vehicle traffic and probably avoids triggering permit community meetings, and lawsuits, etc. 

Sounds pretty darn &#039;shovel-ready&#039; to me, and fulfill those Livability Principles various federal agencies have been talking about.

http://fastlane.dot.gov/2009/06/livability-principles-will-guide-federal-housing-environmental-and-transportation-policy-.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooo&#8230;how much would renovating/redesigning the southern path cost? That would effectively double the Panhandle capacity for all users without impacting vehicle traffic and probably avoids triggering permit community meetings, and lawsuits, etc. </p>
<p>Sounds pretty darn &#8216;shovel-ready&#8217; to me, and fulfill those Livability Principles various federal agencies have been talking about.</p>
<p><a href="http://fastlane.dot.gov/2009/06/livability-principles-will-guide-federal-housing-environmental-and-transportation-policy-.html" rel="nofollow">http://fastlane.dot.gov/2009/06/livability-principles-will-guide-federal-housing-environmental-and-transportation-policy-.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The southside path in the Panhandle is in an atrocious state of disrepair. It&#039;s frequently blocked by large puddles (20 feet or longer sometimes) and has tons of big cracks and overgrown roots making the asphalt pretty hazardous.

I think that&#039;s the main reason it is so lightly used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The southside path in the Panhandle is in an atrocious state of disrepair. It&#8217;s frequently blocked by large puddles (20 feet or longer sometimes) and has tons of big cracks and overgrown roots making the asphalt pretty hazardous.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the main reason it is so lightly used.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bialick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Bialick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZA,

I&#039;ve always kind of thought it&#039;s because the northern path feels more open than the other - the southern path seems to be more tightly flanked by trees. I can&#039;t quite put my finger on it, as I admit I&#039;ve only been on that path a couple times, but I think it&#039;s just not as pleasant.

Get_Some_Perspective,

It&#039;s definitely a promising idea and I think I heard in a past article that a cycle track is one already in the discourse with the NoPa people or something. But my thought is: how about one way cycle lanes, on Oak and Fell respective to their flow? (Whether or not they remain one-way.) That way, more room could be given to each lane for passing, and space could be consolidated more evenly on each thoroughfare (as opposed to taking a bunch of space from one and not the other). Passing bicyclists wouldn&#039;t even have to worry about others oncoming.

My other beef with the Panhandle is at the Masonic crossing - besides the illegal left turns - cars blocking the crosswalk in the middle lane! Something needs to be done, as it&#039;s guaranteed to happen every time there&#039;s enough traffic to fill it up. (I&#039;ve begun signaling with my hand for drivers to stay back from the intersection when it&#039;s filling up - seemed to actually have worked today.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZA,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always kind of thought it&#8217;s because the northern path feels more open than the other &#8211; the southern path seems to be more tightly flanked by trees. I can&#8217;t quite put my finger on it, as I admit I&#8217;ve only been on that path a couple times, but I think it&#8217;s just not as pleasant.</p>
<p>Get_Some_Perspective,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely a promising idea and I think I heard in a past article that a cycle track is one already in the discourse with the NoPa people or something. But my thought is: how about one way cycle lanes, on Oak and Fell respective to their flow? (Whether or not they remain one-way.) That way, more room could be given to each lane for passing, and space could be consolidated more evenly on each thoroughfare (as opposed to taking a bunch of space from one and not the other). Passing bicyclists wouldn&#8217;t even have to worry about others oncoming.</p>
<p>My other beef with the Panhandle is at the Masonic crossing &#8211; besides the illegal left turns &#8211; cars blocking the crosswalk in the middle lane! Something needs to be done, as it&#8217;s guaranteed to happen every time there&#8217;s enough traffic to fill it up. (I&#8217;ve begun signaling with my hand for drivers to stay back from the intersection when it&#8217;s filling up &#8211; seemed to actually have worked today.)</p>
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		<title>By: ZA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find ironic about the Panhandle is that there are in fact TWO paths through the Panhandle, but almost all users seem to prefer the northern route. 

As it is, bicycles are forbidden from the southern route, but few joggers/pedestrians/dog-walkers choose THEIR dedicated path.

Anyone care to speculate why this is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find ironic about the Panhandle is that there are in fact TWO paths through the Panhandle, but almost all users seem to prefer the northern route. </p>
<p>As it is, bicycles are forbidden from the southern route, but few joggers/pedestrians/dog-walkers choose THEIR dedicated path.</p>
<p>Anyone care to speculate why this is?</p>
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		<title>By: Investigate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investigate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See page 33 (&quot;Barrier Posts&quot;) of http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/signtech/mutcdsupp/pdf/camutcd/CAMUTCD-Part9.pdf : &quot;Before a decision is made to install barrier posts, consideration needs to be given to the implementation of other remedial measures&quot;. Which is pretty weak. But by the same token they don&#039;t install tire treadles on every one way street, though they are fairly effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See page 33 (&#8220;Barrier Posts&#8221;) of <a href="http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/signtech/mutcdsupp/pdf/camutcd/CAMUTCD-Part9.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/signtech/mutcdsupp/pdf/camutcd/CAMUTCD-Part9.pdf</a> : &#8220;Before a decision is made to install barrier posts, consideration needs to be given to the implementation of other remedial measures&#8221;. Which is pretty weak. But by the same token they don&#8217;t install tire treadles on every one way street, though they are fairly effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Clutch J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clutch J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Uni would counter that by removing bollards they&#039;re open to liability should a motor vehicle enter the path and hurt somebody.

But I&#039;m with you...We need to figure out a way beyond bollards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Uni would counter that by removing bollards they&#8217;re open to liability should a motor vehicle enter the path and hurt somebody.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m with you&#8230;We need to figure out a way beyond bollards.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bollards are certainly stupid. It should be pretty easy to get them removed, just point out that the University is exposed to huge liability. If anybody is killed or seriously hurt, huge lawsuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bollards are certainly stupid. It should be pretty easy to get them removed, just point out that the University is exposed to huge liability. If anybody is killed or seriously hurt, huge lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: Investigate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investigate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be an interesting investigative article to determine the design process for this sort of path: why did they go with the strange paint design, why did they go with bollards? I&#039;m sure there are design standards for this sort of thing. (For example: I know bollards are specifically anti-recommended due to the injuries they cause.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be an interesting investigative article to determine the design process for this sort of path: why did they go with the strange paint design, why did they go with bollards? I&#8217;m sure there are design standards for this sort of thing. (For example: I know bollards are specifically anti-recommended due to the injuries they cause.)</p>
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		<title>By: Clutch J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clutch J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a nice path for people who like them!  It&#039;s good to see bike projects on the move in SF.

(OK, take a deep breath, resist commenting on the death-bollards and how they would be tough to see at night or during a rainstorm or how they would inhibit travel by cargo bike or with a bike trailer or could harm just about anyone who&#039;s inattentive or unlucky for even a split second).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a nice path for people who like them!  It&#8217;s good to see bike projects on the move in SF.</p>
<p>(OK, take a deep breath, resist commenting on the death-bollards and how they would be tough to see at night or during a rainstorm or how they would inhibit travel by cargo bike or with a bike trailer or could harm just about anyone who&#8217;s inattentive or unlucky for even a split second).</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Mauricio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Mauricio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a start, but the three bollards at the bottom of the hill scare me too.</description>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any reason to take out the Panhandle bike path. Just fix the foot path on the South side of the panhandle. Right now the pavement is horrible, there&#039;s often ponds submerging path, and there&#039;s a bunch of drunks and drug addicts hanging out on the South side (more so than on the bike path). If you fix all that and make it a pleasant path, I think the majority of walkers &amp; joggers will use that side.

Personally, I find the traffic jam at the gas station works as a pretty effective traffic calming system. I find the block leading up to Divisadero much more pleasant than the 2 blocks after. Once you pass Divis you have people driving 1-2 feet from you going up to 40 mph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any reason to take out the Panhandle bike path. Just fix the foot path on the South side of the panhandle. Right now the pavement is horrible, there&#8217;s often ponds submerging path, and there&#8217;s a bunch of drunks and drug addicts hanging out on the South side (more so than on the bike path). If you fix all that and make it a pleasant path, I think the majority of walkers &amp; joggers will use that side.</p>
<p>Personally, I find the traffic jam at the gas station works as a pretty effective traffic calming system. I find the block leading up to Divisadero much more pleasant than the 2 blocks after. Once you pass Divis you have people driving 1-2 feet from you going up to 40 mph.</p>
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		<title>By: TIMTOWTDI</title>
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		<dc:creator>TIMTOWTDI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, the buffered bike lane photos appears to be too narrow. Perhaps even more so than automobile traffic, there is going to be a speed differential between cyclists. Why would you engineer a passage for cyclists that doesn&#039;t have adequate space to safely pass each other?

I don&#039;t get bollards on bike paths at all. What&#039;s the point of deliberately creating a situation where users of the path have to dodge an obstacle that could cause serious injury if they hit it?

The last time I rode from GGB down to Crissy Field I was delighted and dismayed. The new path had bollards. A path used by many, many, many inexperienced tourist cyclists was designed to be an obstacle course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the buffered bike lane photos appears to be too narrow. Perhaps even more so than automobile traffic, there is going to be a speed differential between cyclists. Why would you engineer a passage for cyclists that doesn&#8217;t have adequate space to safely pass each other?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get bollards on bike paths at all. What&#8217;s the point of deliberately creating a situation where users of the path have to dodge an obstacle that could cause serious injury if they hit it?</p>
<p>The last time I rode from GGB down to Crissy Field I was delighted and dismayed. The new path had bollards. A path used by many, many, many inexperienced tourist cyclists was designed to be an obstacle course.</p>
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		<title>By: taomom</title>
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		<dc:creator>taomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get Some Perspective,

You&#039;re probably right about the Panhandle, and the picture of the buffered bike lane you linked to doesn&#039;t look too bad.  (Way better than no buffering.)  Still, it&#039;s so nice to able to bike away from car fumes and noise and through lovely grass and trees instead.  Ah well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get Some Perspective,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re probably right about the Panhandle, and the picture of the buffered bike lane you linked to doesn&#8217;t look too bad.  (Way better than no buffering.)  Still, it&#8217;s so nice to able to bike away from car fumes and noise and through lovely grass and trees instead.  Ah well.</p>
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		<title>By: get_some_perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>get_some_perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeez, people... from these comments, you&#039;d think they were taking away bike improvements rather than adding shiny new ones.

yes, the bollards are black, but it looks like they have reflectors on top (you are riding with a light at night, right?).  yes, they could use dotted stripe rather than solid... and yes, there could be some more obvious indication that pedestrians are also welcome.  i suspect if it is a shortcut, peds will use it anyway.

sometimes it is best to build a space, wait and see how it gets used, then do another round of changes to adapt to reality.  case in point: the panhandle: someone above mentioned that the path through the panhandle is getting a little overcrowded with uses, particularly at peak hours.  

in my opinion, the time has come to cede the panhandle path to the joggers and dog walkers and little tikes on little bikes.  and don&#039;t take this as a bad sign for cycling in sf, on the contrary, take it as growing pains from massive success.  there are simply so many bikes going through this route that even weren&#039;t it for the walkers, it would still be at capacity sometimes.  the solution for bikes is fairly straightforward: take the leftmost lane of oak (now parked cars), separate it with parking barriers or &#039;j&#039; barriers from the car lanes.  paint a new, 2-way bike path in this space, linking it on one side to the oak/fell/stanyan intersection (where the existing path ends), and ending the other side of the dedicated path all the way down on scott street.  just like this one in montreal:

http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/moved/buffered_bike_lane4.jpg

this would finally bridge the safety gap going eastbound between the panhandle and the wiggle, provide an alternative to the fell street slog with gas station of doom, and separate runners/joggers/tikes from freely moving bikes in the panhandle. 

if the car people freak about the displaced parking, simply move the left side parking one lane to the right...oak street will still run smoothly with 3-4 lanes instead of 4-5 lanes (still so many lanes for cars!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeez, people&#8230; from these comments, you&#8217;d think they were taking away bike improvements rather than adding shiny new ones.</p>
<p>yes, the bollards are black, but it looks like they have reflectors on top (you are riding with a light at night, right?).  yes, they could use dotted stripe rather than solid&#8230; and yes, there could be some more obvious indication that pedestrians are also welcome.  i suspect if it is a shortcut, peds will use it anyway.</p>
<p>sometimes it is best to build a space, wait and see how it gets used, then do another round of changes to adapt to reality.  case in point: the panhandle: someone above mentioned that the path through the panhandle is getting a little overcrowded with uses, particularly at peak hours.  </p>
<p>in my opinion, the time has come to cede the panhandle path to the joggers and dog walkers and little tikes on little bikes.  and don&#8217;t take this as a bad sign for cycling in sf, on the contrary, take it as growing pains from massive success.  there are simply so many bikes going through this route that even weren&#8217;t it for the walkers, it would still be at capacity sometimes.  the solution for bikes is fairly straightforward: take the leftmost lane of oak (now parked cars), separate it with parking barriers or &#8216;j&#8217; barriers from the car lanes.  paint a new, 2-way bike path in this space, linking it on one side to the oak/fell/stanyan intersection (where the existing path ends), and ending the other side of the dedicated path all the way down on scott street.  just like this one in montreal:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/moved/buffered_bike_lane4.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/moved/buffered_bike_lane4.jpg</a></p>
<p>this would finally bridge the safety gap going eastbound between the panhandle and the wiggle, provide an alternative to the fell street slog with gas station of doom, and separate runners/joggers/tikes from freely moving bikes in the panhandle. </p>
<p>if the car people freak about the displaced parking, simply move the left side parking one lane to the right&#8230;oak street will still run smoothly with 3-4 lanes instead of 4-5 lanes (still so many lanes for cars!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just say no to bollards!  Good to see some progress on the path though.</description>
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		<title>By: jass</title>
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		<dc:creator>jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, a little paranoid I think, especially in light of this &quot;is the first step in SFSU&#039;s plan for the North-South bike path through campus.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, a little paranoid I think, especially in light of this &#8220;is the first step in SFSU&#8217;s plan for the North-South bike path through campus.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got back from riding it and it does look nice. However it is only about 1/3 of a city block long and not visible from either the street or from the main campus area. The average student probably won&#039;t even know it&#039;s there.

Cyclists riding south on Route 75 to SFSU have 3 options:
-Ride the 19th Avenue sidewalk
-Take the lane on 19th
-Take the official route which winds through the Stonestown parking lot (the least desirable option in my opinion)

It looks like this path was constructed to appease cyclists so that they can&#039;t ask for the better option in Project 8.1 (namely parking removal along 19th so a dedicated bike lane could be installed). 

It&#039;s the equivalent of stiping a bike lane for 3 inconvenient blocks of Page and discouraging bike use on Oak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from riding it and it does look nice. However it is only about 1/3 of a city block long and not visible from either the street or from the main campus area. The average student probably won&#8217;t even know it&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>Cyclists riding south on Route 75 to SFSU have 3 options:<br />
-Ride the 19th Avenue sidewalk<br />
-Take the lane on 19th<br />
-Take the official route which winds through the Stonestown parking lot (the least desirable option in my opinion)</p>
<p>It looks like this path was constructed to appease cyclists so that they can&#8217;t ask for the better option in Project 8.1 (namely parking removal along 19th so a dedicated bike lane could be installed). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the equivalent of stiping a bike lane for 3 inconvenient blocks of Page and discouraging bike use on Oak.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/29/eyes-on-the-street-san-francisco-gets-first-new-bike-lanes-in-three-years/comment-page-1/#comment-51481</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, i see that the bollards have the white strips at the top -- that&#039;s cool. [are they lights?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, i see that the bollards have the white strips at the top &#8212; that&#8217;s cool. [are they lights?]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like it.

and i agree that it appears walkers are being shortchanged. we want walkers and bikers to both feel welcomes, and ideally, to both be able to walk/ride two-abreast when they can. that&#039;s life, man! we&#039;re social animals -- let the car drivers have their alone time -- i want to ride together with my peeps. :)

maybe just paint something to make walkers feel more welcome? maybe drop the &#039;bike lane&#039; markings altogether, but leave the middle paint -- or make it striped? 

adding a &#039;SLOW&#039; sign in the area would work. 

and yes, painting those bollars white or yellow would work. and light them, ideally.

and I wonder how much lighting would cost? wouldn&#039;t mind a nice night shot of the area so see what the lighting is like.

thanks to all who made it happen. that&#039;s the toughest part. hopefully a few tweaks and we&#039;ll be golden.

this area was desperate for some bikey treatment. bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like it.</p>
<p>and i agree that it appears walkers are being shortchanged. we want walkers and bikers to both feel welcomes, and ideally, to both be able to walk/ride two-abreast when they can. that&#8217;s life, man! we&#8217;re social animals &#8212; let the car drivers have their alone time &#8212; i want to ride together with my peeps. <img src='http://sf.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>maybe just paint something to make walkers feel more welcome? maybe drop the &#8216;bike lane&#8217; markings altogether, but leave the middle paint &#8212; or make it striped? </p>
<p>adding a &#8216;SLOW&#8217; sign in the area would work. </p>
<p>and yes, painting those bollars white or yellow would work. and light them, ideally.</p>
<p>and I wonder how much lighting would cost? wouldn&#8217;t mind a nice night shot of the area so see what the lighting is like.</p>
<p>thanks to all who made it happen. that&#8217;s the toughest part. hopefully a few tweaks and we&#8217;ll be golden.</p>
<p>this area was desperate for some bikey treatment. bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: mikesonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikesonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, not sure I get what you mean? The 2nd to last photo as two groups of people walking side by side with the inside person in the center of the bike lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, not sure I get what you mean? The 2nd to last photo as two groups of people walking side by side with the inside person in the center of the bike lane.</p>
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