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	<title>Comments on: Bay Area Transportation Commission Starts Climate Sustainability Fund</title>
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	<description>Covering San Francisco&#039;s livable streets movement</description>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/12/21/bay-area-transportation-commission-starts-climate-sustainability-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-88871</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bicycles are not, as claimed the ONLY users of the public right of way who use streets not designed for them -- Pedestrians are the greatest users of the public right of way, particularly in crossing streets not designed for them, and are killed at least 3.5 times as often proportionately (by VMT) as other users (mainly drivers)(and likely 10 times more frequesntly by trip).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bicycles are not, as claimed the ONLY users of the public right of way who use streets not designed for them &#8212; Pedestrians are the greatest users of the public right of way, particularly in crossing streets not designed for them, and are killed at least 3.5 times as often proportionately (by VMT) as other users (mainly drivers)(and likely 10 times more frequesntly by trip).</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Roth</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/12/21/bay-area-transportation-commission-starts-climate-sustainability-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-87201</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drunk Engineer,
Debate the merits of the arguments and issues all you want; that is very welcome, but ad hominems don&#039;t help the discussion. Stop with the Kool-Aid insults.

In this article, our MPO has done something very few have: create a fund for innovative projects meant to limit climate impacts in the region. Is it only $80M over three years and is that tiny? Of course.  But is it a new direction for MTC and is it ahead of the curve for other MPO&#039;s? To my knowledge, yes. That is what the article is about.  Does this same MPO still fund tons of road-widening projects in the guise of HOT lanes? Yes.  Do they still allocate stim funds to resurrect dubious projects like OAC? Yes. I have no illusions about how far they are from ideal, but they are well ahead of most MPOs in the country and this article was not about whether or not they are ideal, but that they developed this fund. 

http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/30/san-jose-provides-model-for-bay-area-growth-and-transportation-needs/

In the San Jose LOS article above, you missed (or chose to ignore) the nugget of the piece, which is that San Jose&#039;s LOS standard for its Downtown and TOD zones is the cutting edge approach to super-ceding outdated, auto-centric LOS standards.  San Francisco is spending hundreds of thousands (if not millions) in consultant fees and staff time to develop a nexus study over the next years that will arrive at essentially the same conclusion that San Jose did in 2005, though San Francisco might not be as diligent about bringing together the community and the developers to hash out the details. I don&#039;t know of other cities in CA that are doing more?  

Does this change anything about the wretched history of San Jose&#039;s 60 years of sprawling, suburban development patterns? No. The city has been built to cater to cars.  I have no illusions about that.  What the article addressed, however, was that San Jose is changing that framework in certain areas of the city and trying to encourage smarter development patterns that have less impact on the environment and create a more inviting public realm and tighter neighborhoods.

And there is positive change at the top of SJ&#039;s DOT. Countless advocates and reformist transpo professionals have said the same thing about Hans Larsen: he&#039;s an urbanist and he&#039;s committed to reshaping the culture of automobility in his department.  Maybe they&#039;re all wrong, but I don&#039;t have good evidence to show me as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drunk Engineer,<br />
Debate the merits of the arguments and issues all you want; that is very welcome, but ad hominems don&#8217;t help the discussion. Stop with the Kool-Aid insults.</p>
<p>In this article, our MPO has done something very few have: create a fund for innovative projects meant to limit climate impacts in the region. Is it only $80M over three years and is that tiny? Of course.  But is it a new direction for MTC and is it ahead of the curve for other MPO&#8217;s? To my knowledge, yes. That is what the article is about.  Does this same MPO still fund tons of road-widening projects in the guise of HOT lanes? Yes.  Do they still allocate stim funds to resurrect dubious projects like OAC? Yes. I have no illusions about how far they are from ideal, but they are well ahead of most MPOs in the country and this article was not about whether or not they are ideal, but that they developed this fund. </p>
<p><a href="http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/30/san-jose-provides-model-for-bay-area-growth-and-transportation-needs/" rel="nofollow">http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/10/30/san-jose-provides-model-for-bay-area-growth-and-transportation-needs/</a></p>
<p>In the San Jose LOS article above, you missed (or chose to ignore) the nugget of the piece, which is that San Jose&#8217;s LOS standard for its Downtown and TOD zones is the cutting edge approach to super-ceding outdated, auto-centric LOS standards.  San Francisco is spending hundreds of thousands (if not millions) in consultant fees and staff time to develop a nexus study over the next years that will arrive at essentially the same conclusion that San Jose did in 2005, though San Francisco might not be as diligent about bringing together the community and the developers to hash out the details. I don&#8217;t know of other cities in CA that are doing more?  </p>
<p>Does this change anything about the wretched history of San Jose&#8217;s 60 years of sprawling, suburban development patterns? No. The city has been built to cater to cars.  I have no illusions about that.  What the article addressed, however, was that San Jose is changing that framework in certain areas of the city and trying to encourage smarter development patterns that have less impact on the environment and create a more inviting public realm and tighter neighborhoods.</p>
<p>And there is positive change at the top of SJ&#8217;s DOT. Countless advocates and reformist transpo professionals have said the same thing about Hans Larsen: he&#8217;s an urbanist and he&#8217;s committed to reshaping the culture of automobility in his department.  Maybe they&#8217;re all wrong, but I don&#8217;t have good evidence to show me as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Drunk Engineer</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/12/21/bay-area-transportation-commission-starts-climate-sustainability-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-86811</link>
		<dc:creator>Drunk Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt has been drinking the kool-aid again. $50 million Safe-Routes-to-Transit did not make the cut, but automobile parking improvements did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt has been drinking the kool-aid again. $50 million Safe-Routes-to-Transit did not make the cut, but automobile parking improvements did.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Edelman</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2009/12/21/bay-area-transportation-commission-starts-climate-sustainability-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-86631</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, please! TDM! Not fake tech fixes for private cars!</description>
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