Comments on: MTA Directors Get Another Earful on Muni Service Cuts and Fare Hikes http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/ Covering San Francisco's livable streets movement Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Matt http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-129351 Matt Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:15:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=127921#comment-129351 Paul- I would assume that the rationale behind offering a discount pass to disabled people and the elderly also has something to do with their lack of mobility compared to those of us who are younger and more able-bodied. Paul-

I would assume that the rationale behind offering a discount pass to disabled people and the elderly also has something to do with their lack of mobility compared to those of us who are younger and more able-bodied.

]]> By: mikesonn http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-127991 mikesonn Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:51:51 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=127921#comment-127991 Newsom wants to be remembered for "Care not Cash", but pretty sure there are way more homeless on streets now. But that is a moot point when you look at his systematic dismantling of MUNI. Newsom will be the one future mayors point to when they give an example of how not to run the city and how close we all came to losing the life-line of San Francisco. I just hope we can hold on until he leaves. Newsom wants to be remembered for “Care not Cash”, but pretty sure there are way more homeless on streets now. But that is a moot point when you look at his systematic dismantling of MUNI. Newsom will be the one future mayors point to when they give an example of how not to run the city and how close we all came to losing the life-line of San Francisco. I just hope we can hold on until he leaves.

]]> By: Nick http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-127961 Nick Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:44:13 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=127921#comment-127961 Folding bikes have the potential to make MUNI less crowded. For example, a person brings a folder onto a LRV line and then opts to not take a local bus line for the second leg of their commute. The absense of the person on the local bus line means more overall space for those passengers while there is a marginal decrease in space on the LRV. We are "Transit First" in name only. That is fast becoming this Mayor's legacy. Folding bike ban detailed here: http://www.sfmta.com/cms/bcomm/BikesonMuni.htm "Bikes, folding and non-folding, are not allowed inside any Muni bus, streetcar, or other transit vehicle at any time." Folding bikes have the potential to make MUNI less crowded. For example, a person brings a folder onto a LRV line and then opts to not take a local bus line for the second leg of their commute. The absense of the person on the local bus line means more overall space for those passengers while there is a marginal decrease in space on the LRV.

We are “Transit First” in name only. That is fast becoming this Mayor’s legacy.

Folding bike ban detailed here:
http://www.sfmta.com/cms/bcomm/BikesonMuni.htm
“Bikes, folding and non-folding, are not allowed inside any Muni bus, streetcar, or other transit vehicle at any time.”

]]> By: Paul http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-127911 Paul Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:47:25 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=127921#comment-127911 The rational behind the discounted passes for the disabled and the elderly is that they're usually low income groups. On another note. Allowing folding bikes on buses and rail cars now is going to be an even more non-starter because we're going to have an even greater overcrowding issue on MUNI. The rational behind the discounted passes for the disabled and the elderly is that they’re usually low income groups. On another note. Allowing folding bikes on buses and rail cars now is going to be an even more non-starter because we’re going to have an even greater overcrowding issue on MUNI.

]]> By: Evan http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-127831 Evan Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:08:56 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=127921#comment-127831 Maybe this might come as a surprising question, but what's the rationale of discount passes for the disabled? I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, but I'm curious why that discount exists. Is it because it's assumed the disabled have less income and therefore less ability to pay? Because we're simply trying to make living in society easier for the disabled? It's not making things physically easier for them, so I'm just curious what the rationale is. Maybe this might come as a surprising question, but what’s the rationale of discount passes for the disabled? I’m not saying we shouldn’t do it, but I’m curious why that discount exists.

Is it because it’s assumed the disabled have less income and therefore less ability to pay? Because we’re simply trying to make living in society easier for the disabled? It’s not making things physically easier for them, so I’m just curious what the rationale is.

]]> By: Nick http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-127791 Nick Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:46:31 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=127921#comment-127791 Does anyone have any memories to share of MUNI service levels before Mayor Brown's proclamation that he could "fix MUNI in 100 days"? That is essentially the service we're going to be getting. This would also be a tremendous oppurtunity for bicycle activists to extend their outreach to new commuters. They should aggressiely push the folding bike/bus option. Why wait 30 minutes for a bus to pass you by when your destination is 15 minutes by bike? Perhaps MTA can finally be convinced to end their ban of folding bikes on MUNI vehicles. Does anyone have any memories to share of MUNI service levels before Mayor Brown’s proclamation that he could “fix MUNI in 100 days”? That is essentially the service we’re going to be getting.

This would also be a tremendous oppurtunity for bicycle activists to extend their outreach to new commuters. They should aggressiely push the folding bike/bus option. Why wait 30 minutes for a bus to pass you by when your destination is 15 minutes by bike?

Perhaps MTA can finally be convinced to end their ban of folding bikes on MUNI vehicles.

]]> By: Josh http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/01/29/mta-directors-get-another-earful-on-muni-service-cuts-and-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-127781 Josh Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:45:14 +0000 http://sf.streetsblog.org/?p=127921#comment-127781 "It would be a shame for this Board to simply adopt and rubber-stamp Mayor Newsom's extremely poor understanding of the Transit First policy in this city." You go Eric Chase! ... maybe worth noting that the Transit First Policy is written on the exact same piece of paper that gives the mayor his executive authority. If one isn't legally binding, then why is the other? “It would be a shame for this Board to simply adopt and rubber-stamp Mayor Newsom’s extremely poor understanding of the Transit First policy in this city.”

You go Eric Chase!

… maybe worth noting that the Transit First Policy is written on the exact same piece of paper that gives the mayor his executive authority. If one isn’t legally binding, then why is the other?

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