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	<title>Comments on: San Francisco Takes Parking Spaces for Trial Sidewalk Extensions</title>
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		<title>By: David W.</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-467102</link>
		<dc:creator>David W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone notice that this violates SF&#039;s anti-tropical hardwoods policy?  It&#039;s not a &quot;Forest Stewardship Council certified only&quot; policy - it&#039;s no rainforest wood, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone notice that this violates SF&#8217;s anti-tropical hardwoods policy?  It&#8217;s not a &#8220;Forest Stewardship Council certified only&#8221; policy &#8211; it&#8217;s no rainforest wood, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-188281</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have started, here are some pics from today.  Looks like leveling is in progress.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krudolph/sets/72157623481640643</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have started, here are some pics from today.  Looks like leveling is in progress.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/krudolph/sets/72157623481640643" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/krudolph/sets/72157623481640643</a></p>
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		<title>By: albionite</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-163881</link>
		<dc:creator>albionite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Mission resident, I&#039;m excited about the park at 22nd and Bartlett, however I don&#039;t understand why the entire last block of Bartlett, from 22nd to 21st, can&#039;t be closed to traffic entirely. It&#039;s absurdly wide and, except for a few driveways (which could be accommodated while giving over most of the space to pedestrians) it&#039;s entirely empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Mission resident, I&#8217;m excited about the park at 22nd and Bartlett, however I don&#8217;t understand why the entire last block of Bartlett, from 22nd to 21st, can&#8217;t be closed to traffic entirely. It&#8217;s absurdly wide and, except for a few driveways (which could be accommodated while giving over most of the space to pedestrians) it&#8217;s entirely empty.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Niharika:  I&#039;m sure Remy also really appreciates the city financing the expansion of his (cramped) cafe.  That worked out really well for him.  Funny that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Niharika:  I&#8217;m sure Remy also really appreciates the city financing the expansion of his (cramped) cafe.  That worked out really well for him.  Funny that.</p>
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		<title>By: nikki</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-151891</link>
		<dc:creator>nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ citicritter 

the architecture firm doing the design is located in SOMA, San Francisco:

http://rg-architecture.com/rg-architecture-site/home.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ citicritter </p>
<p>the architecture firm doing the design is located in SOMA, San Francisco:</p>
<p><a href="http://rg-architecture.com/rg-architecture-site/home.html" rel="nofollow">http://rg-architecture.com/rg-architecture-site/home.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bulb-outs could be used on every alley in the city to make sidewalks more pedestrian-friendly by reducing the width of alleys that pedestrians must cross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These bulb-outs could be used on every alley in the city to make sidewalks more pedestrian-friendly by reducing the width of alleys that pedestrians must cross.</p>
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		<title>By: niharika</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-151791</link>
		<dc:creator>niharika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i go to mojo cafe VERY often, and would seriously VERY MUCH APPRECIATE an extended patio.. it would do so much to enhance the street scene which is already so prominent in this neighborhood!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i go to mojo cafe VERY often, and would seriously VERY MUCH APPRECIATE an extended patio.. it would do so much to enhance the street scene which is already so prominent in this neighborhood!</p>
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		<title>By: niharika</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-151781</link>
		<dc:creator>niharika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS WOULD BE FANTASTIC!

I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MOJO CAFE AND WOULD LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE IF THEY IMPLEMENT THIS THERE!!


although parking is really tough in that area, the loss of a few spots wouldn&#039;t make a major impact on the already conjested parking situation. so , though i may have to search a little longer for a spot, i don&#039;t mind at all, and would whole-heartedly support this movement!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS WOULD BE FANTASTIC!</p>
<p>I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MOJO CAFE AND WOULD LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE IF THEY IMPLEMENT THIS THERE!!</p>
<p>although parking is really tough in that area, the loss of a few spots wouldn&#8217;t make a major impact on the already conjested parking situation. so , though i may have to search a little longer for a spot, i don&#8217;t mind at all, and would whole-heartedly support this movement!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bialick</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-151591</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bialick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Jamison for touching on the harmful effects of parking (besides the obvious encouragement of driving), particularly on larger &quot;travel streets&quot; or &quot;corridors&quot;, as we call Divisadero. Parking not only separates and &quot;hides away&quot; pedestrians like you mentioned, encouraging faster driving and less attention, but a parking lane creates the potential (or, rather, reality) for countless parked cars to pull out into traffic at any time as well as (even more importantly) moving traffic suddenly stopping to park. Not only does this endanger and harm traffic flow for all vehicles, but it especially discourages bike usage. Particularly, riding on the right as those driving a bike are encouraged to do (as in a typical SF bike lane) leaves people with a very low sense of safety, as it places them right next to cars and their protruding side-mirrors, right in the middle of all I just mentioned on top of opening car doors (the most common type of bike accident, I&#039;ve heard).

Additionally, particularly for the walking person, parking visually disrupts the streetscape and creates physical and visual obstacles, largely destroying the sense of openness or safety (both in the traffic and even criminal sense). You might not feel these differences until you see a street with no cars parked on it - who would think it&#039;s possible that you could actually see everything on a street?

Finally, parking lanes often yield the need for additional travel lanes (for moving traffic to pass [un]parking vehicles), so in that sense street parking actually takes up a lot more space than meets the eye.

In Aarhus and Copenhagen, Denmark, planners seem to know all this and street parking is reserved quite conservatively for side-streets, never for travel streets (and usually with bulb-outs).

In summation: do we really need street parking on every street? What do we have to gain by removing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jamison for touching on the harmful effects of parking (besides the obvious encouragement of driving), particularly on larger &#8220;travel streets&#8221; or &#8220;corridors&#8221;, as we call Divisadero. Parking not only separates and &#8220;hides away&#8221; pedestrians like you mentioned, encouraging faster driving and less attention, but a parking lane creates the potential (or, rather, reality) for countless parked cars to pull out into traffic at any time as well as (even more importantly) moving traffic suddenly stopping to park. Not only does this endanger and harm traffic flow for all vehicles, but it especially discourages bike usage. Particularly, riding on the right as those driving a bike are encouraged to do (as in a typical SF bike lane) leaves people with a very low sense of safety, as it places them right next to cars and their protruding side-mirrors, right in the middle of all I just mentioned on top of opening car doors (the most common type of bike accident, I&#8217;ve heard).</p>
<p>Additionally, particularly for the walking person, parking visually disrupts the streetscape and creates physical and visual obstacles, largely destroying the sense of openness or safety (both in the traffic and even criminal sense). You might not feel these differences until you see a street with no cars parked on it &#8211; who would think it&#8217;s possible that you could actually see everything on a street?</p>
<p>Finally, parking lanes often yield the need for additional travel lanes (for moving traffic to pass [un]parking vehicles), so in that sense street parking actually takes up a lot more space than meets the eye.</p>
<p>In Aarhus and Copenhagen, Denmark, planners seem to know all this and street parking is reserved quite conservatively for side-streets, never for travel streets (and usually with bulb-outs).</p>
<p>In summation: do we really need street parking on every street? What do we have to gain by removing it?</p>
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		<title>By: bikermark</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikermark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one of these in downtown Mobile, Alabama. It works great there and the city recoups far more revenue from dining sales tax than it loses in revenue from the two parking spaces that are utilized for the platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one of these in downtown Mobile, Alabama. It works great there and the city recoups far more revenue from dining sales tax than it loses in revenue from the two parking spaces that are utilized for the platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamison Wieser</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-151011</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamison Wieser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dan you are making many of the same tired arguments that were used to oppose the Castro Plaza, but the noise, exhaust, proximity to traffic, and a streetcar line running through middle of it have not kept people away. 

8&#039; of parked cars don&#039;t do a lot to cut down on noise or exhaust. 1&#039; wide planters and cabled fencing provide more protection against accidents than there is at the corner of any given intersection. And how is it that doubling the width of level pedestrian space (split between the sidewalk and the new patio seating) more confining than the current canyon created by buildings on one side and the parked cars on the other? It&#039;s also pretty well established by now that traffic slows down when it&#039;s right up against pedestrians than when there&#039;s a buffer of parked cars, right? 

It might not be your cup of tea, but nobody is going to force you to sit there. If the majority of customers feel the same and avoid the patio then it&#039;s easy enough to revert back to parking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dan you are making many of the same tired arguments that were used to oppose the Castro Plaza, but the noise, exhaust, proximity to traffic, and a streetcar line running through middle of it have not kept people away. </p>
<p>8&#8242; of parked cars don&#8217;t do a lot to cut down on noise or exhaust. 1&#8242; wide planters and cabled fencing provide more protection against accidents than there is at the corner of any given intersection. And how is it that doubling the width of level pedestrian space (split between the sidewalk and the new patio seating) more confining than the current canyon created by buildings on one side and the parked cars on the other? It&#8217;s also pretty well established by now that traffic slows down when it&#8217;s right up against pedestrians than when there&#8217;s a buffer of parked cars, right? </p>
<p>It might not be your cup of tea, but nobody is going to force you to sit there. If the majority of customers feel the same and avoid the patio then it&#8217;s easy enough to revert back to parking.</p>
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		<title>By: citicritter</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-150701</link>
		<dc:creator>citicritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 04:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK so RG Architecture is not from Deleware, good. 

Not so good is that they seem to be one of these architects where half the work on their website was done by another architecture firm they were employed by - always found that to be a questionable trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK so RG Architecture is not from Deleware, good. </p>
<p>Not so good is that they seem to be one of these architects where half the work on their website was done by another architecture firm they were employed by &#8211; always found that to be a questionable trick.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-150521</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron - hehehe... :)

@dan - Are you familiar with Park(ing) day? It&#039;s almost exactly the same as this, but done for 1 day by anybody who wants to, and it is quite successful. It&#039;s also already done in a more formal way in many cities in and out of the U.S. While some people may feel uncomfortable, many more find it perfectly comfortable and quite enjoyable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron &#8211; hehehe&#8230; <img src='http://sf.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@dan &#8211; Are you familiar with Park(ing) day? It&#8217;s almost exactly the same as this, but done for 1 day by anybody who wants to, and it is quite successful. It&#8217;s also already done in a more formal way in many cities in and out of the U.S. While some people may feel uncomfortable, many more find it perfectly comfortable and quite enjoyable.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would pass on this idea since it seems too close for comfort to traffic noise, exhaust and the danger of potential accident on the street.  It will not achieve its purpose by being too confining and literally on the road.  Leave the space for parking.   An open space needs more space than a few parking spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would pass on this idea since it seems too close for comfort to traffic noise, exhaust and the danger of potential accident on the street.  It will not achieve its purpose by being too confining and literally on the road.  Leave the space for parking.   An open space needs more space than a few parking spots.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bialick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Bialick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick - I think Rob A. has become the easy puppet for us to poke at and help keep the troops&#039; morale up. Let us have a little victory fun :D (Was there a dartboard with his face on it at the Streetsblog party or anything? haha)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick &#8211; I think Rob A. has become the easy puppet for us to poke at and help keep the troops&#8217; morale up. Let us have a little victory fun <img src='http://sf.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  (Was there a dartboard with his face on it at the Streetsblog party or anything? haha)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this idea, but I dislike how advocacy never extends too far outside of downtown. 

Imagine a commerical street in the city that has an LRV line run down it, but no bike racks or even a simple coffee shop. It exists and is ignored.

The most dramatic type of change is possible in those neighborhoods that advocacy doesn&#039;t reach. I hate to say it but organizations like Streetsblog and SPUR and (to a lesser extent) SFBC don&#039;t seem to think in city-wide terms. The problems that are being discussed pale in comparison to those that could be discussed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this idea, but I dislike how advocacy never extends too far outside of downtown. </p>
<p>Imagine a commerical street in the city that has an LRV line run down it, but no bike racks or even a simple coffee shop. It exists and is ignored.</p>
<p>The most dramatic type of change is possible in those neighborhoods that advocacy doesn&#8217;t reach. I hate to say it but organizations like Streetsblog and SPUR and (to a lesser extent) SFBC don&#8217;t seem to think in city-wide terms. The problems that are being discussed pale in comparison to those that could be discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the Planning Department&#039;s Power discussed at a recent SPUR Forum on the Cesar Chavez traffic calming, sidewalk and bike lane project, the city estimates that it costs $1 million per block to widen the sidewalk. This cost accounts for re-grading the crown of the street so water still drains and relocating any utilities. That&#039;s why Chavez is still going to have relatively narrow sidewalks and why Divis didn&#039;t get wider sidewalks. If you&#039;ve seen the Valencia Street reconstruction, you know how involved the process is. 

That&#039;s what&#039;s exceptional about this design. It will come in at $10k for this project and it should be scalable and replicable, assuming it works. Of course, after all the generous designers and builders are tired of giving their services for free, the city is going to have to come up with a funding stream if these are really to scale up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the Planning Department&#8217;s Power discussed at a recent SPUR Forum on the Cesar Chavez traffic calming, sidewalk and bike lane project, the city estimates that it costs $1 million per block to widen the sidewalk. This cost accounts for re-grading the crown of the street so water still drains and relocating any utilities. That&#8217;s why Chavez is still going to have relatively narrow sidewalks and why Divis didn&#8217;t get wider sidewalks. If you&#8217;ve seen the Valencia Street reconstruction, you know how involved the process is. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what&#8217;s exceptional about this design. It will come in at $10k for this project and it should be scalable and replicable, assuming it works. Of course, after all the generous designers and builders are tired of giving their services for free, the city is going to have to come up with a funding stream if these are really to scale up.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Noah, are you talking about something entirely other than what this article is discussing? What are they covering the bus bulb-out with? How does that relate to this article?

Bulb outs are different from sidewalk widenings. The bus bulb-outs did add space as people who are now waiting for buses do not need to stand in the path of those walking along the sidewalk.

Sidewalk widening means the entire length of the sidewalk is widened, which has not happened, and there are currently no plans I am aware of to do this, it&#039;s certainly not part of the Divisadero improvements (the reason that I&#039;ve been told is that it is much more expensive as they also have to move the fire hydrants and associated plumbing)

This article is talking about adding sidewalk (or seating if you prefer) where there are currently 2 metered street parking space outside of Mojo Bicycle. There is no existing sidewalk in the space that is being discussed, and it has nothing to do with the bus bulb-outs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Noah, are you talking about something entirely other than what this article is discussing? What are they covering the bus bulb-out with? How does that relate to this article?</p>
<p>Bulb outs are different from sidewalk widenings. The bus bulb-outs did add space as people who are now waiting for buses do not need to stand in the path of those walking along the sidewalk.</p>
<p>Sidewalk widening means the entire length of the sidewalk is widened, which has not happened, and there are currently no plans I am aware of to do this, it&#8217;s certainly not part of the Divisadero improvements (the reason that I&#8217;ve been told is that it is much more expensive as they also have to move the fire hydrants and associated plumbing)</p>
<p>This article is talking about adding sidewalk (or seating if you prefer) where there are currently 2 metered street parking space outside of Mojo Bicycle. There is no existing sidewalk in the space that is being discussed, and it has nothing to do with the bus bulb-outs.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-150361</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick

You say: &quot;@Noah, the sidewalks on Divis have not been widened. Some bus/pedestrian bulb-outs have been added, but that&#039;s a different matter.&quot;

Um, right, which widened the sidewalk (one block from the above picture, actually), with the justification that it would provide more walking space.  Now they want to cover that walking space with stuff.</description>
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<p>You say: &#8220;@Noah, the sidewalks on Divis have not been widened. Some bus/pedestrian bulb-outs have been added, but that&#8217;s a different matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, right, which widened the sidewalk (one block from the above picture, actually), with the justification that it would provide more walking space.  Now they want to cover that walking space with stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/02/16/san-francisco-takes-parking-spaces-for-trial-sidewalk-extensions/comment-page-1/#comment-150351</link>
		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe my imagination is in overdrive. i rather not sit by cars whizzing by...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe my imagination is in overdrive. i rather not sit by cars whizzing by&#8230;</p>
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