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	<title>Comments on: Commentary: Keep Drilling, Stop Driving, Use Oil Wisely</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Clarkberg</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-2/#comment-443011</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Clarkberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loudly applaud everything this author says except in paragraph four where he writes &quot;Growing plants to drive cars also requires oil.&quot; I don&#039;t think plants should be driving cars. Or any other living thing for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loudly applaud everything this author says except in paragraph four where he writes &#8220;Growing plants to drive cars also requires oil.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think plants should be driving cars. Or any other living thing for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: nico</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-2/#comment-385711</link>
		<dc:creator>nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>double word. ride a fucking bike.</description>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-384361</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a bicycle in every pot</description>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-347071</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like bwms comment &quot;young urban healthy males&quot;......im one..   You are right though old fat sick people are much better overall for society.  My agenda is stupid.

OLD FAT SICK &gt; OLD SLIM HEALTHY?

OLD FAT SICK = DEAD, after expensive medicine

OLD SLIM HEALTHY  = ALIVE, after an apple and bike ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like bwms comment &#8220;young urban healthy males&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;im one..   You are right though old fat sick people are much better overall for society.  My agenda is stupid.</p>
<p>OLD FAT SICK &gt; OLD SLIM HEALTHY?</p>
<p>OLD FAT SICK = DEAD, after expensive medicine</p>
<p>OLD SLIM HEALTHY  = ALIVE, after an apple and bike ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-347061</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that our society has become so dependent on oil that individual efforts to use less are impossible because everyone else is using so much.  I ride my bike every day probably about 80 miles a week and use about 20 in my car per week.  I also almost die about 3 times a week.  My city is so jammed packed with cars ridding a bike for transportation more than a couple miles is seriously dangerous. There are so many reasons why Americans will never voluntarily give up there cars.  The only way is through economics.  If the price is too high individuals will be FORCED to use alternatives.  People wont even stop smoking unless the price of cigs is too high, what makes you think people will ever give up there quick, air conditioned modes of travel,   cars don&#039;t even give you cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that our society has become so dependent on oil that individual efforts to use less are impossible because everyone else is using so much.  I ride my bike every day probably about 80 miles a week and use about 20 in my car per week.  I also almost die about 3 times a week.  My city is so jammed packed with cars ridding a bike for transportation more than a couple miles is seriously dangerous. There are so many reasons why Americans will never voluntarily give up there cars.  The only way is through economics.  If the price is too high individuals will be FORCED to use alternatives.  People wont even stop smoking unless the price of cigs is too high, what makes you think people will ever give up there quick, air conditioned modes of travel,   cars don&#8217;t even give you cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: thamesdriving</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-346551</link>
		<dc:creator>thamesdriving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 11:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your site lot of update we can get and all can understand easily and good one also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your site lot of update we can get and all can understand easily and good one also.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-346521</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 11:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article - it pains me whenever I see a so-called &quot;environmentalist&quot; whizzing round in a polluting car.  Is it so hard to ride a bike...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article &#8211; it pains me whenever I see a so-called &#8220;environmentalist&#8221; whizzing round in a polluting car.  Is it so hard to ride a bike&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Baker</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-330761</link>
		<dc:creator>Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 20:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy Wheels® Folding Shopping Cart CHANGED MY LIFE!! Earn yours too!

at a hardware store near you...WALK THERE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy Wheels® Folding Shopping Cart CHANGED MY LIFE!! Earn yours too!</p>
<p>at a hardware store near you&#8230;WALK THERE!</p>
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		<title>By: carfree american</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-321201</link>
		<dc:creator>carfree american</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 12:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written. For all the skeptics who want to change but do not feel they can, I say this: imagine you do NOT have a choice,what would thatbe and feel like, then come up with a solution. A solution not because you want to, but because you need to. The changes needed will involve sacrifice and creative thinking, it will be fun and only a little painful.The thing is people, we don&#039;t have a choice, the Earth cannot absorb the constant abuse, and no one else will make the change to walk-bike-or mass transit unless they see you doing it first. Peace, Bill Poindexter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written. For all the skeptics who want to change but do not feel they can, I say this: imagine you do NOT have a choice,what would thatbe and feel like, then come up with a solution. A solution not because you want to, but because you need to. The changes needed will involve sacrifice and creative thinking, it will be fun and only a little painful.The thing is people, we don&#8217;t have a choice, the Earth cannot absorb the constant abuse, and no one else will make the change to walk-bike-or mass transit unless they see you doing it first. Peace, Bill Poindexter</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 00:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sixty-year-old with an arthritic hip who still gets around about 90% of the time by bike, feet, and bus here. Since I entered creeping decrepitude, I&#039;ve noticed the following: Walking is much harder, sigh, no more WalkSF Peak to Peak for me. Cycling actually feels good and is recommended by physical therapy, but it&#039;s much harder to get on and off -- no more towering loads on the back rack. Muni is not much changed, though waiting long times is a pain. And driving can really hurt, especially getting into and out of a rather small car with long legs that no longer fold up so easily. So aging may not be such an obvious reason for driving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sixty-year-old with an arthritic hip who still gets around about 90% of the time by bike, feet, and bus here. Since I entered creeping decrepitude, I&#8217;ve noticed the following: Walking is much harder, sigh, no more WalkSF Peak to Peak for me. Cycling actually feels good and is recommended by physical therapy, but it&#8217;s much harder to get on and off &#8212; no more towering loads on the back rack. Muni is not much changed, though waiting long times is a pain. And driving can really hurt, especially getting into and out of a rather small car with long legs that no longer fold up so easily. So aging may not be such an obvious reason for driving.</p>
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		<title>By: peternatural</title>
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		<dc:creator>peternatural</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 15:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bmwlover does have a good point though that the vast majority of adults are too debilitated to get around without a motor assist. Unfortunately, the human species (after a brief phase of youth) is just too overweight, out of shape, arthritic, asthmatic, diabetic, dyspeptic, and generally ill to do very much by muscle power... Thank the goddess for TV and drive-thru fast food joints! Otherwise, we&#039;d really be screwed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmwlover does have a good point though that the vast majority of adults are too debilitated to get around without a motor assist. Unfortunately, the human species (after a brief phase of youth) is just too overweight, out of shape, arthritic, asthmatic, diabetic, dyspeptic, and generally ill to do very much by muscle power&#8230; Thank the goddess for TV and drive-thru fast food joints! Otherwise, we&#8217;d really be screwed!</p>
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		<title>By: taomom</title>
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		<dc:creator>taomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 15:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Noe Valley.  I have three children ages 12, 16, and 19.  I am 48.  Our family downsized and got rid of our van last year, so now we have just the Prius, a membership in City Carshare, and a fleet of three regular bicycles and two electric bicycles.  In addition, we try to drive our car as little as possible.  We also never, ever drive to 24th Street.  We always bike or walk there, even though we live up a substantial hill from it.  It would be fine with me if all of 24th Street became a pedestrian mall, but I look forward to at least a plaza down there as destination that involves something beyond consumerism and shopping.

One of the beauties of living in a city is you can get your services close by.  My children&#039;s doctor, our dentist, the woman who cuts my hair and my yoga class are all within a mile of our house.  This was done on purpose to cut down on driving!  In addition, there are probably 20 excellent restaurants within a mile of our house, some of them among the best in the country.  (There&#039;s a reason why I don&#039;t live in suburbia.)  I will say most of these restaurants could use more bike racks in front.

I did make the mistake years ago of not choosing my kids&#039; schools based on location, and it&#039;s one I don&#039;t intend to repeat.  I make up for it by very vigorous carpooling, but it still commits me to more driving than I wish to do.

My 16 year old takes Muni a lot.  Another great benefit of living in the city!  Teens can have independence without needing the expense of a car and insurance. (Not to mention danger.  Driving in a car is the leading cause of death for teens.)  If San Francisco had more bike lanes and I thought the streets were as safe as Copenhagen, I would send her to school on an electric bike (to deal with the hills) and I&#039;d be free of even more driving.  Unfortunately getting to and from her school via Muni can take over an hour (versus 15 min by car and 20 min by bike), though she does take Muni when she doesn&#039;t have afterschool sports.

My 20 year old is planning on getting to his internship this summer via bicycle and Caltrain.  It will take longer than if he drove, but it will be much cheaper than car ownership and he can read on the train.  Plus, he doesn&#039;t have a driver&#039;s license yet and we are in no hurry for him to get one.  (We will have to start paying insurance for him once he does.)

I generally grocery shop on my way home from carpooling kids to school, but during the summer I take my Xtracycle to the Trader Joe&#039;s on 9th street.  I can carry home four bags of groceries, even eggs, although the pavement on Division Street is abysmal and I really have to be careful on the ride back.  For fill-in during the week, I walk to Buffalo Foods or Whole Foods, or my husband rides his bicycle to Whole Foods.  Last year, I also rode my bike on Wednesdays to the Farmer&#039;s Market at Noe and Market.  (I can&#039;t imagine how you would drive there and find parking.)

My husband rides his bike to work downtown.  His office location is where it is because it is central to public transit.  No one at his office drives to work.  My husband and I bicycle to the symphony.  Easy parking.  I often take my youngest daughter to her dance classes in the Mission on the back of my Xtracycle.  We chose where she would take dance class at least partly based on its close location. Again, I wish San Francisco had more protected bike lanes to make it safe for her to bicycle there on her own.

I generally take Muni if I&#039;m going downtown to Powell or points east.  (Shopping, movies, museums.)  If it&#039;s just me (and I&#039;m not carting kids somewhere) I pretty much get anywhere in the city on my bike.  You don&#039;t have to be young, male and healthy to live a car-lite life, though I would say I&#039;m healthier precisely because I walk and bike a lot. I&#039;d really like to see the streets calm enough where seniors feel comfortable on adult trikes (electrified or not) and children can walk or bike to school.  A heck of a lot of morning traffic in this city is parents driving kids to school, plus studies show that a little bit of exercise in the morning helps kids focus and their brains work better.  

I know some people will not give up their car until you pry their keys from their cold, dead hands.  Still, taking a car diet is a great way to become healthier, wealthier and wiser.  Try it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Noe Valley.  I have three children ages 12, 16, and 19.  I am 48.  Our family downsized and got rid of our van last year, so now we have just the Prius, a membership in City Carshare, and a fleet of three regular bicycles and two electric bicycles.  In addition, we try to drive our car as little as possible.  We also never, ever drive to 24th Street.  We always bike or walk there, even though we live up a substantial hill from it.  It would be fine with me if all of 24th Street became a pedestrian mall, but I look forward to at least a plaza down there as destination that involves something beyond consumerism and shopping.</p>
<p>One of the beauties of living in a city is you can get your services close by.  My children&#8217;s doctor, our dentist, the woman who cuts my hair and my yoga class are all within a mile of our house.  This was done on purpose to cut down on driving!  In addition, there are probably 20 excellent restaurants within a mile of our house, some of them among the best in the country.  (There&#8217;s a reason why I don&#8217;t live in suburbia.)  I will say most of these restaurants could use more bike racks in front.</p>
<p>I did make the mistake years ago of not choosing my kids&#8217; schools based on location, and it&#8217;s one I don&#8217;t intend to repeat.  I make up for it by very vigorous carpooling, but it still commits me to more driving than I wish to do.</p>
<p>My 16 year old takes Muni a lot.  Another great benefit of living in the city!  Teens can have independence without needing the expense of a car and insurance. (Not to mention danger.  Driving in a car is the leading cause of death for teens.)  If San Francisco had more bike lanes and I thought the streets were as safe as Copenhagen, I would send her to school on an electric bike (to deal with the hills) and I&#8217;d be free of even more driving.  Unfortunately getting to and from her school via Muni can take over an hour (versus 15 min by car and 20 min by bike), though she does take Muni when she doesn&#8217;t have afterschool sports.</p>
<p>My 20 year old is planning on getting to his internship this summer via bicycle and Caltrain.  It will take longer than if he drove, but it will be much cheaper than car ownership and he can read on the train.  Plus, he doesn&#8217;t have a driver&#8217;s license yet and we are in no hurry for him to get one.  (We will have to start paying insurance for him once he does.)</p>
<p>I generally grocery shop on my way home from carpooling kids to school, but during the summer I take my Xtracycle to the Trader Joe&#8217;s on 9th street.  I can carry home four bags of groceries, even eggs, although the pavement on Division Street is abysmal and I really have to be careful on the ride back.  For fill-in during the week, I walk to Buffalo Foods or Whole Foods, or my husband rides his bicycle to Whole Foods.  Last year, I also rode my bike on Wednesdays to the Farmer&#8217;s Market at Noe and Market.  (I can&#8217;t imagine how you would drive there and find parking.)</p>
<p>My husband rides his bike to work downtown.  His office location is where it is because it is central to public transit.  No one at his office drives to work.  My husband and I bicycle to the symphony.  Easy parking.  I often take my youngest daughter to her dance classes in the Mission on the back of my Xtracycle.  We chose where she would take dance class at least partly based on its close location. Again, I wish San Francisco had more protected bike lanes to make it safe for her to bicycle there on her own.</p>
<p>I generally take Muni if I&#8217;m going downtown to Powell or points east.  (Shopping, movies, museums.)  If it&#8217;s just me (and I&#8217;m not carting kids somewhere) I pretty much get anywhere in the city on my bike.  You don&#8217;t have to be young, male and healthy to live a car-lite life, though I would say I&#8217;m healthier precisely because I walk and bike a lot. I&#8217;d really like to see the streets calm enough where seniors feel comfortable on adult trikes (electrified or not) and children can walk or bike to school.  A heck of a lot of morning traffic in this city is parents driving kids to school, plus studies show that a little bit of exercise in the morning helps kids focus and their brains work better.  </p>
<p>I know some people will not give up their car until you pry their keys from their cold, dead hands.  Still, taking a car diet is a great way to become healthier, wealthier and wiser.  Try it!</p>
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		<title>By: peternatural</title>
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		<dc:creator>peternatural</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 13:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my 5-person household, 3 of us can&#039;t drive (2 kids and a senior). The older kid (14) gets around the city on her own with a fast pass. The younger kid (7) walks 4 blocks to and from school w/ her grandmother (who lives w/ us and no longer drives). That leaves the other 2 people who work waaay too much to go straight to work without having to help the kids get to school.

As for groceries, we use our bikes, which have baskets and a detachable cargo trailer. Turns out it&#039;s actually really easy! (Occasionally we use city car share, but 9 times out of 10 the bike is easier, funner, more convenient, and cheaper).

In our situation, a car would just be an expensive pain in the ass that wouldn&#039;t actually help with our daily routines!

In car-centric towns and suburbs, the non-driving population (e.g. teenagers and seniors) get a raw deal... but I guess that&#039;s just too bad, eh? In the &quot;mainstream&quot; way of thinking, they don&#039;t count much, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my 5-person household, 3 of us can&#8217;t drive (2 kids and a senior). The older kid (14) gets around the city on her own with a fast pass. The younger kid (7) walks 4 blocks to and from school w/ her grandmother (who lives w/ us and no longer drives). That leaves the other 2 people who work waaay too much to go straight to work without having to help the kids get to school.</p>
<p>As for groceries, we use our bikes, which have baskets and a detachable cargo trailer. Turns out it&#8217;s actually really easy! (Occasionally we use city car share, but 9 times out of 10 the bike is easier, funner, more convenient, and cheaper).</p>
<p>In our situation, a car would just be an expensive pain in the ass that wouldn&#8217;t actually help with our daily routines!</p>
<p>In car-centric towns and suburbs, the non-driving population (e.g. teenagers and seniors) get a raw deal&#8230; but I guess that&#8217;s just too bad, eh? In the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; way of thinking, they don&#8217;t count much, it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: mikesonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikesonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great point Yuri. We are making our seniors dependent on people to shuttle them around if they are unable to drive or worse yet, they keep driving well past the time it is safe to do so because they have alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great point Yuri. We are making our seniors dependent on people to shuttle them around if they are unable to drive or worse yet, they keep driving well past the time it is safe to do so because they have alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 01:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, what happens when grandma can&#039;t drive anymore?  Transfers are a pain but not so bad if you&#039;re not in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, what happens when grandma can&#8217;t drive anymore?  Transfers are a pain but not so bad if you&#8217;re not in a hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: mikesonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikesonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 01:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bmwlover, There have been a couple write-ups on families who bike on this site, you should look them up. And grandma doesn&#039;t have to get rid of her car, she can just use it less. If getting to the doctor takes 2 hrs and 4 transfers, then by all means drive. But if she didn&#039;t have the monthly cost of a car, and upkeep, and storage then maybe she could get a cab and spend less on transportation over the course of a month.

It only works for a very small percentage in your mind only. Yes, it won&#039;t work for everyone, but a large reduction in car trips is easily attainable by many people, young and old. We have to change the way our communities are laid out. This country has backed itself into an unsustainable corner. You don&#039;t have to sell you car, maybe just use it less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmwlover, There have been a couple write-ups on families who bike on this site, you should look them up. And grandma doesn&#8217;t have to get rid of her car, she can just use it less. If getting to the doctor takes 2 hrs and 4 transfers, then by all means drive. But if she didn&#8217;t have the monthly cost of a car, and upkeep, and storage then maybe she could get a cab and spend less on transportation over the course of a month.</p>
<p>It only works for a very small percentage in your mind only. Yes, it won&#8217;t work for everyone, but a large reduction in car trips is easily attainable by many people, young and old. We have to change the way our communities are laid out. This country has backed itself into an unsustainable corner. You don&#8217;t have to sell you car, maybe just use it less.</p>
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		<title>By: bmwlover</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-319201</link>
		<dc:creator>bmwlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 00:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, all of you bike advocates, I am listening. But tell me how this would work in these situations:

1. The young single mom with 3 kids. She has a car. She lives in Noe Valley. She also owns a bike and rides for fun once in a while. Is she expected to stop driving and hop on her bike to buy groceries for a family of 4?

2. The older woman, say 69, has a car and has to drive to the doctor for an appointment. She lives in the southern part of SF, and her doctor is at Kaiser on Geary Blvd. Taking public transit would involve 4 transfers, some thru bad neighborhoods. You expect her to take public transit? or actually ride a damn bike?

Your wonderful intentions for giving up car driving and using only bike or public transit, only work for a VERY small percentage of the population.

Let&#039;s be real. By and large bike transit is largely used (not completely) by young, healthy urban males. 

Stop pushing your narrow agenda on everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, all of you bike advocates, I am listening. But tell me how this would work in these situations:</p>
<p>1. The young single mom with 3 kids. She has a car. She lives in Noe Valley. She also owns a bike and rides for fun once in a while. Is she expected to stop driving and hop on her bike to buy groceries for a family of 4?</p>
<p>2. The older woman, say 69, has a car and has to drive to the doctor for an appointment. She lives in the southern part of SF, and her doctor is at Kaiser on Geary Blvd. Taking public transit would involve 4 transfers, some thru bad neighborhoods. You expect her to take public transit? or actually ride a damn bike?</p>
<p>Your wonderful intentions for giving up car driving and using only bike or public transit, only work for a VERY small percentage of the population.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be real. By and large bike transit is largely used (not completely) by young, healthy urban males. </p>
<p>Stop pushing your narrow agenda on everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Hart</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-317001</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 16:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this article, Jason.  I agree with you that people who put themselves forward as &quot;environmentalists&quot; yet who continue to burn large quantities of oil are providing cover for society&#039;s oil addiction.   After all, there&#039;s nothing the oil industry likes better than a car with a bumper sticker that says &quot;Love your mother.&quot;

But what about aviation?  There&#039;s a good chance that the oil now gushing into the gulf would have ended up being refined into kerosene and burned in a 747.  Aviation is the fastest growing consumer of oil in the world (or at least was before the recession and the volcano hit).

Supporting the airline industry is just about the single worst thing an individual can do to perpetuate oil dependence and cause climate change.  Should people also stop (or at least reduce) their flying in response to this environmental catastrophe off the coast of your home state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article, Jason.  I agree with you that people who put themselves forward as &#8220;environmentalists&#8221; yet who continue to burn large quantities of oil are providing cover for society&#8217;s oil addiction.   After all, there&#8217;s nothing the oil industry likes better than a car with a bumper sticker that says &#8220;Love your mother.&#8221;</p>
<p>But what about aviation?  There&#8217;s a good chance that the oil now gushing into the gulf would have ended up being refined into kerosene and burned in a 747.  Aviation is the fastest growing consumer of oil in the world (or at least was before the recession and the volcano hit).</p>
<p>Supporting the airline industry is just about the single worst thing an individual can do to perpetuate oil dependence and cause climate change.  Should people also stop (or at least reduce) their flying in response to this environmental catastrophe off the coast of your home state?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary L Howe</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-315621</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary L Howe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 19:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drive less. yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drive less. yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
		<link>http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/05/03/commentary-keep-drilling-stop-driving-use-oil-wisely/comment-page-1/#comment-315421</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 17:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree.  The environmentally sound solution is to stop drilling in the oceans *and* increase taxes on gasoline to compensate for environmental damages *and* drive less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree.  The environmentally sound solution is to stop drilling in the oceans *and* increase taxes on gasoline to compensate for environmental damages *and* drive less.</p>
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