Today’s Headlines

  • SF Tries to Stop Bluegogo Bikes (SFExaminer)
  • More on Parking for God (Hoodline)
  • Three Pedestrians Struck by Elderly Motorist Near Stonestown (Hoodline)
  • Cow Hollow Pedestrian Victim Identified (SFBay)
  • More on Muni’s New Light Rail Vehicles (MassTransit)
  • Taraval Safety Work Begins Next Week (SFBay)
  • NIMBYs Block Affordable Mission Housing (BizTimes)
  • App Facilitates Carpooling to BART Stations (EastBayTimes)
  • More on Delays to BART Extension (SFChron)
  • Driverless Shuttle Testing Underway (EastBayTimes)
  • View from Atop San Francisco’s New Tallest Building (SFGate)

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  • thielges

    Funny how the City preemptively intercepts Bluegogo not yet permitted or deployed bikeshare when they took weeks to shut down Uber’s unpermitted self driving car deployment.

  • johndfrench

    I’ve seen BlueGoGo bikes in Shenzhen. Along with a couple of other competitors, they have exploded in popularity in the last few months and are ubiquitous on the sidewalks. The park-anywhere and pay-per-ride models are much more attractive to a lot of people than the membership and dock-based BABS/GoBike model, I think. Some bike share competition could be a good thing.

    On the other hand I share the city’s concerns about these bikes clogging up sidewalks and taking up all the available bike parking. That definitely happens in some places in Shenzhen.

  • murphstahoe

    Bike theft surreptitiously caught on camera by another person’s Fly Camera.

  • johndfrench

    That said… I find SFMTA’s claim that “we will not tolerate any business model that results in obstruction of the public right of way or poses a safety hazard” laughable. Rideshare drivers do this everywhere, every day, all the time.

  • Jeffrey Baker

    Grr. The only legitimate reason for keeping the death penalty.

  • p_chazz

    Really, stealing bikes is worse than murder?

  • Corvus Corax

    Poe’s Law, Peaches, Poe’s Law.

  • Corvus Corax

    I can find no information on the exclusivity contracts the city has with the 3 bikeshare programs already permitted. Did we vote on it? Was payola involved? Anyone know?

  • Corvus Corax

    I am sorry for her loss, but has she never heard of bike locks?

  • murphstahoe

    Bike lock – prevent theft
    Camera – thief is now in jail

  • Corvus Corax

    Bike lock – no opportunistic theft, less marginal people filling prisons.

    Camera – sheer luck this time

  • Corvus Corax

    I had the impression that these bikes would not be locked to any stanchions, but would have some internal lock. Am I wrong on that?
    p.s. I just replied to you in an earlier thread re my comment to a sarcasm-impaired poster above.

  • murphstahoe

    This rider had ridden up Mt Diablo. Not a trivial task without a 2 lb lock. She was at a coffee shop in tony Alamo. I’d probably set up so I can see my bike and reduce the opportunity by connecting the frame to wheel with my helmet – but clearly these riders had an experiential expectation that an issue would be rare

  • Corvus Corax

    I do get that, but rare is not never, and in this case even a lightweight cable lock would’ve likely sufficed. I am glad to hear that the thief was caught, and before, I hope, he got rid of her bike.

  • johndfrench

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Peskin-Introduces-Legislation-Seeking-To-Block-10866230.php

    Sounds like Peskin’s trying to block this by hook or by crook. BlueGoGo operates basically identically to Scoot, and I don’t see any supervisors introducing new legislation to block them. (They offer shared vespa-style electric scooters, which can be parked anywhere a motorcycle can legally be parked in the city; they offer free rides to encourage people to move scooters parked in areas which are about to become no-parking for street cleaning, or to get dead scooters to charging stations. No reason that model wouldn’t work for bikes: park anywhere a bike can be legally parked; offer free rides to bikes which are getting close to the point of being considered abandoned; punish and eventually ban riders who park illegally)

  • johndfrench

    At least in Shenzhen they just use wheel locks, true. The comments on other articles about BlueGoGo expanding into the US are full of people commenting “lol, they’ll be stolen in 30 seconds here” (is bike theft really nonexistent in China? Do thieves really go after distinctive, non-standardized, GPS-tracked bikes?), so perhaps they’d try something different in San Francisco, like built-in cable locks. (I could swear I’ve seen stationless bikeshare bikes with built-in cable locks at a caltrain station somewhere in the peninsula, but I can’t find any information about that system online. It wasn’t BABS.)

  • Corvus Corax

    Yes, I saw those silly comments too, mostly from just the sort of commenter you might expect. Wheel locks might indeed be good enough: there is bound to be some loss due to attrition, but that would be factored in, I imagine, and there would possibly be some sort of posse to round up misappropriated bikes, especially with the help of GPS. And the fact that a thief would have to carry, rather than easily ride off on, a bike to steal it would, I think, make them less prone to theft.

    I hope BlueGoGo does come here: more bikes=more bikes, always a good thing.

  • thielges

    Hauling a two pound lock up the mountain builds character. And leg muscles.

    Were you the guy who gave me grief for violating the bike+lock constant weight rule when I went on one of Stephan’s Wednesday rides on my commuter beater “steel tank” and a U lock? 🙂

  • jonobate

    Exactly this. Buy this and a small padlock for long distance rides out of the city. Easily fits in your saddlebag and weighs next to nothing. It’s not going to stop anyone with a cable cutter but it will at least stop someone from walking off with your bike while you’re buying a sandwich.

    https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Bicycle-Security-24-Inches/dp/B000RY61F2

  • Corvus Corax

    I just saw the 6 o’clock news. As you said, Peskin is up in arms about the BlueGoGo bikes which their representative says are still coming in spite of his, Peskin’s, threat to confiscate them. And there was mention of Motivate’s 10-year exclusive contract to be the sole bike-rental agent, but they did not tell us how that came to be, so I am still in the dark as to that aspect of this brouhaha. BlueGoGo will cost $2 an hour, half of what the *exclusive* bikes will cost, so it sure sounds as though someone’s afraid of losing money if they come, so perhaps payola is indeed involved. BlueGoGo addressed the issue of piled up bikes in China saying that nowhere near 10,000 bikes will be coming here.

  • johndfrench

    BABS/GoBike is free for 30 mins IF you have a membership. But you can’t take out a bike at all if you don’t, and a day pass is $9. As someone who would only use it occasionally, it loses out to transit, Scoot, or even Uber.

    BlueGoGo is $2 for a quick ride. I’d use that. Parking anywhere is another bonus, no need to wait for BABS’s expansion which is just now finally starting to happen.

  • KL

    https://youtu.be/ZqIlS4C13cg

    Filmed by PBB, and just got off with a warning.

  • Corvus Corax

    Yes, one would have to expect to use BABS frequently in order to justify a membership. I almost never leave my house any other way than on bikeback, so I cannot imagine any use to me of a bikeshare programs. But I am so in favor of anything but private cars, that I support the idea wholeheartedly. And if I had out-of-town guests, the idea of a park-anywhere bike for two bucks an hour sounds so good; I can easily see us out for a ride. I am stunned that there is so much opposition to it. I am suspicious.

  • mx

    Interesting comparison to Scoot.

    I think the main distinction is that Scoot started off only using rented spaces in garages around the city and only later worked out a deal with SFMTA to allow street parking subject to certain restrictions on where they can go (in theory, they’re not supposed to be taking up parking spaces in RPP neighborhoods unless the rider is paying for the time, only short spaces between cars, they have to be moved for street cleaning, etc…). There were hearings on it and everything. That’s different from BlueGoGo just coming in and unilaterally doing their thing without working with the city.

    If there’s an exclusive contact with Motivate, that’s a concern, as there’s not a good reason why only one provider should be allowed. We have multiple carshare providers, for-profit and non-profit, and while it’s irritating as a customer of one that not every carshare car in the city is open to me if I need it (all of maybe three times a year), it works out fine. There’s no reason the same can’t apply to bikeshare too.

  • mx

    The membership model for BABS is interesting. It’s a big initial hurdle that surely puts off a lot of riders, but once you bite the bullet, it’s nicely liberating. Want to pop down Market from say, Montgomery to the Ferry Building? Grab a bike and go; it’s already paid for. Same as if you’ve bought a fast pass for the month, you’re not mentally adding up the cost of the trip anymore, even if $2 is pretty darn cheap; you’re just going if you want.

    I still don’t particularly like riding without a helmet though (I know what nasty head injuries can do). I can bring my own if I’m planning a trip in advance, but it’s not my favorite thing if I’m being spontaneous.

  • murphstahoe

    you had a U lock which did you no good on the backside of Hamilton with non functioning rim tape.

  • murphstahoe

    When it’s all said and done, you live in Alamo and ride the hills around there, a lock is the least of your problems. If you have a lock and your bike isn’t set up properly and you crash on some 40 MPH descent, you lose your bike and your body.

    All they had to do was be less complacent and bring it into the patio.

  • Corvus Corax

    You could always have one of those folding paper helmets with you if you carry, as i do, a messenger bag, or a backpack, or such. EcoHelmet, it is called.

  • mx

    Wow. Market St doesn’t usually get that weird until 7th or so.

    I do have some sympathy for not wanting your traffic stop filmed and broadcast, but here we are. On the bright side, the protected bike lane worked! She didn’t stop blocking the bike lane (at least until the CHP stopped her anyway). And the CHP officer actually going inside to try to find the driver shows more dedication to the job than most SFPD, who usually just drive on when they see stopped cars.

  • jonobate

    It’s not an either/or. You can setup your bike properly *and* carry a lightweight lock with you.

    It’s hard to see how she could have kept her bike within sight while buying a coffee. Business owners generally don’t like you carrying your bike inside, especially when they provide bike racks (as this store does.)

    I’m just kinda amazed how many roadies don’t bother to lock their four (or even five) figure bikes when out on rides. Maybe I’ve been hardened by cycling in the city, but I never leave my bike unlocked and unattended even when I’m out in the countryside.

  • murphstahoe

    Here is the Patio of Peet’s coffee.

    https://plus.google.com/photos/photo/110896749995150486720/6321350983097620242

    Note you will see three roadies sitting at a table having coffee. Just behind the one on the right you can see a helmet and saddle – they brought their bikes into the patio. From the video you will note how Kevin was clothed – too cold for outside coffee, but that makes it even simpler to bring your bike into the patio, in full view of any of the interior tables. Connect your bike to the railing with your helmet strap, and in sight of you, and you’ll probably be more effective than being locked with a cheap cable to the rack which is under a set of stairs and not visible from within the store. Those racks are for employees, frankly. A coffee shop in Alamo that didn’t let cyclists bring their bike into the patio would be getting ready for some really nasty yelp reviews.

    This rider was complacent, no doubt. Just like a Caltrain rider who had his bike stolen on Caltrain yesterday – he was sitting upstairs. I always sit downstairs unless my bike is blocked in a couple bikes deep. But it’s easy to be complacent because the theft levels on Caltrain are really low.

    The roadies with expensive bikes right next to them in a coffee shop patio are amazed that people in the city will ride somewhere and then lock up on the street and go to work for multiple hours at a time. It took me a long time to get to the point where I would lock my beater up outside Civic Center for even the shortest of appointments. I took MUNI when I had Jury Duty because there is no way in hell I would lock the cheapest of all bikes at 7th/Bryant.

  • murphstahoe

    “I cannot imagine any use to me of a bikeshare programs”

    Says the guy paranoid about bikes getting stolen in alamo. A bikeshare membership is about the cost of a City quality lock to have a bike that can never be stolen.

  • Corvus Corax

    Do you have a problem with my taking my own bike whenever I leave my house? Are you annoyed with me because I thought your friend careless in leaving her bike so vulnerable? Why all the hubbub, bub? Did you overimbibe or something?

  • thielges

    Yeah, I remember that too. Duct tape to the rescue! After that incident I started carrying a length of gaffer’s tape.

    FWIW, when training on Mt. Ham I still bring the U-lock. Because after doing a few Hams in a day one wants to stop for a ham torta and a beer in East San Jose on the way home.

  • johndfrench

    I found the peninsula stationless system. It’s in San Mateo county and is called “Bay Bike Share” (http://www.baybikeshare.com/) and is not related to “Bay Area Bike Share”.

    It does have “stations” (which are just bike racks with a sign), but for a small fee you can leave the bike at any bike rack in the service area.

  • Corvus Corax

    This is probably like the VHS vs Beta contest of yesteryear. I hope the victorious system will be the one that is best for everybody and not just for the people who skim the take. But in the long run, I will be content with anything that gets cars off the road.

  • Corvus Corax

    Wouldn’t you think that the city would welcome more bikeshare programs? Shouldn’t getting cars off the streets be a very high priority? Maybe if we took up a collection to pay off whoever is skimming the take, there would be less opposition to BlueGoGo.

  • thielges

    Yeah an increase bikeshare options is a positive. Still it does make sense that the city would want to coordinate with any org that will deploy hundreds or thousands of bikes on public property. Best outcome would be for bluegogo to coordinate with the city and for the city to conditionally approve.

  • Corvus Corax

    Agreed! But the city seems to be so hostile to the whole idea of the BlueGoGo bikes, that they would need to relax a bit and talk to that company. And they need to explain to us why there even exists an exclusivity contract with Motivate. I don’t think we voted on this. I certainly didn’t. So what benefit are we getting from it? Maybe the benefit is going to the company’s CEOs and to our government officials. It’s not like that is an uncommon occurrence.

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