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  1.  

    murphstahoe

    Fang talks about how he was instrumental in the SFO extension.

    11 years later, if you try to take Caltrain to BART to SFO, you have to switch from Caltrain to BART at Millbrae, take it to San Bruno, switch to another train, that will then take you to SFO – despite there being a direct track from Millbrae to SFO.

    That switch is because the ridership of the Millbrae to SFO track is not high enough to justify running the trains (which were operational when the extension opened). There is no reason to believe that this will change. That’s a pretty expensive ornament.

    The garages at the 4 stations on the extension have operated well under capacity since opening. Those garages now serve in large part as cheap airport parking – which BART honestly underprices at $6 per day compared to $13 at Anza (you have to buy a BART ticket while Anza takes you on a shuttle, but at Anza I tip the valets and drivers close to what a BART ticket would be). Basically it’s very convenient to drive to BART and very inconvenient to take Caltrain to BART. That’s backwards.

    Summary – this huge project was poorly planned and scoped. If James Fang wants to take credit for this project, then the blame lands on him.

  2.  

    Duste Allen

    Fact: The intersection of 19th and Holloway is just awful. As someone who lives in this area, who takes Muni and rides a bike, I don’t blame students for not wanting to ride their bike to campus. Not only is 19th a cut-throat kill or be killed road to be on, but trying to maneuver 19th and Holloway as either a biker or pedestrian is like playing chicken. Unfortunately, any plans to make 19th and Holloway any safer are many, many years out and Dist. 7 Supe doesn’t really care much about a fix right now.

  3.  

    murphstahoe

    Those pedestrians all got killed trying to cross 19th, so it’s no problem.

  4.  

    murphstahoe

    That’s like saying that Mark Zuckerberg is the poorest person of the 5 richest people on the planet.

    When we claim the area around SF State has “inhospitable weather” I think it’s time for the human race to pack it in, we’re just a bunch of loser pansies. Our forefathers would be embarrassed.

  5.  

    94103er

    I guess you need to be told it doesn’t rain (or snow) any more in that corner of town than in the rest of the city. So are you seriously trying to tell us some gray skies and a little fog are not ‘hospitable’ for cycling?!? Even if this area experienced the dense tule fog like what’s found in the Central Valley (hardly ever), your comment would be moronic–biking around is a thousand times safer than driving in those conditions.

  6.  

    p_chazz

    What you see as anti-bike I see as pro pedestrian. The last thing SFSU needs is bikes buzzing peds in crowded plazas and on narrow paths.

  7.  

    sebra leaves

    This weather is the least hospitable in the city. You can hardly expect to combat that problem with infrastructure.

  8.  

    Gezellig

    Love these! BART -> SFSU with a right-of-way like that would be really powerful.

  9.  

    Gezellig

    Hah. Yeah. Though lots of students do live within a mile or two of SFSU. And most of them don’t bike to campus.

    That being said if there were a protected bikeway going directly from Daly City BART up 19th Ave that could help a lot of the BART commuters to SFSU. Daly City BART to SFSU is a classic “last-mile” problem and it’s a particularly inhospitable mile to bikes.

  10.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    Your comment seems to presuppose that the new span will stay up in a major quake.

  11.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    I guess not putting the campus out in BFE didn’t come up?

  12.  

    hp2ena

    I believe as part of the 19th Avenue Transit Study, there will be plans for a separated bikeway on some part of the street. I don’t know where on 19th in the campus vicinity. I also know that as part of the plan, there may be a multimodal bridge built just north of Brotherhood to accommodate the realigned M-line, as well as a bike-ped connection. Consult Liz Brisson of the SFCTA for more details.

    As for the bikeway by the entrance, I believe SF State wants to redesign the entrance to coordinate with the 19th Avenue Transit Study. The Urban Design Studio of the Urban Studies and Planning department (which I was also a part of) presented recommendations which can be found at urbanpolicy.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Final_Presentation_Slides.pdf

  13.  

    Martijn

    Not all the pics seem to work one more try.
    Martijn

  14.  

    Guest

    I got inspired to think of possibilities and made some drawings. Below is a possible route from SFSU to BART. (sorry for the missing L)

    But there are many more routes necessary. A very easy route would lead next to Lake Merced blvd to Sunset blvd and than along Sunset all the way to GG Park.

  15.  

    nhburdick

    Sadly, it does not appear this person’s postings are anything but earnest and sober in the writer’s mind. Data from SFPD show that over 60% of all reported crashes with pedestrians are ‘driver at fault’ — and clearly, in many cases, the person getting hit is either dead or so seriously injured as to not be able to provide a counterpoint, so that percentage by all common-sense standards is likely an undercount.

    But the poster has ‘personal experience’ that is apparently statistically sound and factually indisputable.

    Moreover, not only does he/she observe a different reality than the data show, he/she is also able to determine state of mind and intent on the part of the individual people walking. A lot of judgement being cast, for someone who references Jesus’ grace in their post.

  16.  

    Gezellig

    –> Infrastructure is a huge factor:

    1) Despite being a major bike route, Holloway has no physically separated lanes at any point, just sharrows, conventional lanes and double-parking (and really, at points, double-driving) lanes.

    2) 19th Ave has no infrastructure. Sometimes people just bike on the sidewalks.

    –> Institutionalized Anti-Bike policies:

    1) SF State forbids biking on-campus. Overzealous campus popo will hand out tickets for riding your bike on campus.

    2) On that note, overzealous campus/area SF police in general. The only ticket I have ever ever received for biking through a “Stop” sign was at the roundabout at Tapia/Arballo/Font by an SFSU officer.

    *First of all, it’s crazy that a roundabout even has a stop sign in the first place

    *Second of all the policeman was clearly trolling for tickets. Practically no one else was around and it was a quiet evening. I was ironically avoiding going through campus so as to avoid a ticket for riding there.

    I’m also pretty sure I would’ve been fine if I had just been biking on the sidewalk, as I saw someone else do right past the police officer (which he did nothing about).

    Btw, when you get a ticket for going through a stop sign, it’s the same code and fine as if you were a car. Since biking is still a minority activity, it still very much attracts undue attention from police due to illusory correlation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_correlation). I’m not a college student and I even found the resulting $200 fine breathtakingly absurd (and it motivated me to finally sign up for the SFBC!). Imagine if you’re a poor college kid.

    These institutionalized cultural and insane financial biases against biking + poor infrastructure all very much contribute to low modeshare in the area.

  17.  

    LePinkElephant

    I had to watch a Ford ad to see the clip. . . .

  18.  

    Bruce

    It was never really an option. That span was so seismically deficient, no amount of retrofitting could have kept it up in a major quake.

  19.  

    Justin

    Didn’t know that this debate was being held until I read this article I still probably couldn’t go because I was busy. Hope they have another one, though I doubt it, hopefully in a more spacious area that can attract more people

  20.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    I agree the connection between Toxic Acres and Lake Merritt area and Lake Merritt BART specifically will make the difference between a major benefit to Oakland or a disconnected, car-choked eyesore.

  21.  

    Prinzrob

    The grant covers design and engineering, but passing Measure BB on the November ballot in Alameda County will go a long way towards actually getting the bridge built. With all the new construction about to happen in the Brooklyn Basin area, this bike/ped connection is becoming increasingly more important.

  22.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    Great news about the lake merrit bridge. Going that route today is a miserable and dangerous undertaking. Even the mayor managed to mumble appropriate bike friendly words for the occasion.

  23.  

    BBnet3000

    The original idea of retrofitting the old Bay Bridge eastern span is looking better every day.

  24.  

    Dave Moore

    If 48hills is correct http://48hillsonline.org/2014/09/24/2315/ then the “deal” is basically just an understanding. Nothing has been officially passed. To pass a Mello-Roos tax district those being taxed have to agree to it, and that hasn’t happened yet. If the district is not passed then the City has the ability to revoke the building permits, leaving SF with a big hole in the ground. It’s not clear to me how things got this far without the district being approved. Is that common, that there’s a stage after construction starts that both sides wait until before passing the legislation? In any event it appears the developers can walk away from the deal if they want. The city can say “take the deal on the table or no building”. The developers can say “give us a new deal or no building”. Both sides want the building. So it’s a game of chicken, or a deal could be brokered as it almost was. If it all falls through everyone starts suing everyone and the hole stays.

  25.  

    Bryan Deng

    I prefer the rehab Muni buses over the non-rehab ones. I like the current paint scheme except the coach number which may be unreadable by a 50-year-old due to that number being white on gray.

  26.  

    TomLantos

    The 11 mph rule doesn’t apply anymore.It’s now 3, maybe 5 max, and a lot of officers demand that drivers stick to posted speed limit regardless of traffic. You actually can get a ticket for driving 5 mph over speed limit..and abig one, with traffic school. Things changed a lot, that’s why 25 is driving on breaks and 30-35 is safe, smooth traffic, with fully signalised intersections lights and ped’s crossing signals…which also very short on timing like 20 sec for 6 lanes!

  27.  

    Mario Tanev

    “Opposed” is a stretch. “Expressed skepticism” is more like it. He also “expressed skepticism” when Sunday meters were introduced. To some extent, every politician panders to both sides.

  28.  

    NoeValleyJim

    Weiner opposed the Sunday metering reversal. But it is the MTA who sets parking policy, not the BoS. Weiner made an agreement with the Mayor to pull the VLF from this ballot in return for his support in two years. Lee is worried about A not passing. Or so I was told. MTA also controls SF Park.

  29.  

    94103er

    I think it’s safe to say this guy’s perspective was well formed before he even got on this purported ’20mph electric bike,’ which apparently he thinks makes him omniscient.

  30.  

    94103er

    Whoa, um, hey everybody, tl;dr so I’ll sum up, pedestrians got it comin’ to ‘em. No need to investigate further; SFPD, go on home.

  31.  

    94103er

    Wow, is this a joke?

  32.  

    Andy Chow

    But have to be drawn so that SF gets three representatives. Zakhary Mallett is the 3rd rep in SF. His district includes the City of Richmond, Emeryville, and West Oakland.

    San Mateo and Santa Clara counties are not in the BART district. Their transit agencies (SamTrans and VTA) essentially have an arrangement with BART to fund the construction (and VTA instead is building the BART line on its own) and purchase the service.

    To expand the district, there are issues such as equity that needs to be resolved. Some people in the current BART district would say that the new counties need to contribute more money because taxpayers in the current district has already paid for the core infrastructure for BART. SamTrans already paid a “buy-in” fee for the SFO line, and for VTA, they have an arrangement where it will have to pay a premium on top of the operating cost (which VTA seems to ignore) to upgrade the infrastructure on the older part of the system.

    If the BART district were to cover the other two counties, because of the high combined populations there, it would make the East Bay and SF under-represented. The new district would probably have a very different priorities which makes it poplitically very unlikely.

    The other issue is whether the tax be raised in the new counties just for BART or that there should be some reapportionment of the existing taxes. In the East Bay, because of the separation of roles between BART and bus agencies such as AC Transit, there are complicated arrangements of splitting the tax money. There are no such issues in San Mateo and Santa Clara counties, because they each have a single agency funding everything, including Caltrain. Also, should be expanded district include Caltrain, which it does have a regional role? And as BART is getting itself running alternate technologies (which it should’ve been like what other metro areas have done), having it to operate Caltrain seems logical.

  33.  

    GetHubNub

    Once again, allow me to reiterate. I take issue with those who politicize this issue. I experience and witness what happens on the streets of SF each and every day for the past 5 years. I feel I’m well qualified to be contributing to this forum because I’ve been all over this city on a electric bicycle. The areas I cover on a bike are generally between Dog Patch all the way to the Sunset up to 23rd street as well as the Richmond District’s Veteran’s hospital. I’ve covered 15,000 miles on my bike since 2009 sometimes in rain, cold temps and windy conditions since I’m on-call.

    1. Chinese elderly and the disabled are entering crosswalks without regard for the street lights that only have 2 seconds remaining for large streets.

    2. People in the multitudes are jaywalking as if it’s normal and they do so very arrogantly without regard for traffic or bicyclists and often don’t bother to look if cars are coming or not.

    3. Skateborders have come into the fray, the ones with electric boards as well who are just recklessly riding around on busy streets with headphones and earbuds. Their arrogance is astounding to witness as if they can just do whatever they want on the streets. I’ve seen them swerve in and out of traffic on those electric skateboards without a care in the world.

    What I’m seeing is a trend of crazy pedestrian activities disregarding the lights, entering into the crosswalk far too casually without regard for light changes. They are like zombies tuned into their iPhones who aren’t checking for traffic. I witness them continually jay walking across major streets without a care causing a lot of chaos. They are self absorbed and arrogant to have ear buds in their ears, or headphones without regard for the reality of the dangers around them. This was unheard of years ago.

    The jay walkers often don’t bother to look to see if cars are coming, they are selfishly wanting to avoid having to wait for lights and there isn’t any law enforcement to stop them. This happens on every street in San Francisco every day. I witness long lines of people walking in front of 555 California building in the middle of the street when the crosswalk is only a few yards away. That’s right, they walk in the middle of the street rather than using the cross walk, and it’s a very wide street (between Kearny and Montgomery). There is traffic, there are bicyclists and they have the AUDACITY to enter the street without a care. They are too lazy to go up a few years to the crosswalk and endanger everyone else.

    Every single day there are stragglers who are self absorbed with their iPhones who don’t check to see the lights have changed and they’re in the middle of the cross walk when the lights turn green for cars to go. If pedestrians don’t want to be killed they need to look out for themselves and stop playing the victim.

  34.  

    GetHubNub

    I’m not at all surprised because 90% of the time it’s the pedestrian’s fault being preoccupied and oblivious to the dangers of jay walking and entering the crosswalk far too casually. I can assure you the peds are out of line in this city abusing the law that protects them from vehicles no matter what they do. The consequence is often serious injury or death for abusing the grace provided to them in that law.

    These people can get real and take responsibility for their own lives and stop believing cars will stop for them for their unlawful entry into the street and crosswalks or they can continue with the victim mentality of their poor little lives getting hit by cars. When they’re dead for relying on a magical law that they can do whatever they want with impunity, I hope they’ve at least received Jesus into their lives.

  35.  

    GetHubNub

    What a twisted interpretation of what I wrote. It really reflects on how you think and choose to project your own evil sentiments onto others. Do you care to quote what you’re referring to? You must be one of those radical liberals who relies on the victim mentality instead of taking responsibility for your own life. Those elderly Chinese people need to take responsibility for their lives by being attentive to the crosswalk lights that were installed with a system to prevent them from entering the street too late.

    I witness some who don’t give a darn what the street sign says who walk out into the street endangering not only themselves, but those others who may interpret their actions by assuming the light’s green aka the herd mentality. When someone enters the crosswalk they think it’s okay and don’t look up at the light.

  36.  

    GetHubNub

    You’re too politicizing this issue. I see what happens on the streets each and every day as I have the past 5 years on a bicycle. I have no engine, I have a 20mph electric bike. I’m referring to my being stopped and waiting at major intersections witnessing elderly Chinese people who step out into the intersection with 2 seconds remaining at large streets such as California@Hyde and Sutter@Grant. The elderly and handicapped who can’t move very quickly are entering large dangerous intersections when the cross walk sign discloses they don’t have enough time.

    Worse then this, I witness pedestrians continually jay walk on busy large streets on their iPhones or with earbuds. They are apparently oblivious to the dangers. I witness people enter large streets all of the time outside of crosswalks and today witnessed a man who didn’t even bother to look at if traffic was coming who relied on his hearing.

    I feel I’m in touch with reality because I witness what’s really happening on the streets each and every day. I ride all over the city and there is a rampant disregard by pedestrians who disobey the traffic lights and think nothing of jay walking on dangerous streets. There is no police enforcement of jay walking pedestrians who are endangering bicyclists by continually entering the streets outside crosswalks without warning.

    When people get infected with the liberal politics they become largely void of reality. This liberal mindset enables this dangerous environment on the streets to thrive as if everyone can do their own thing without consequences. And when someone like me makes that point there’s always someone like yourself to make sure the pedestrians are made out to be little angels who are always the victim of a vehicle in spite of their own negligent actions. You assumed I had a vehicle. I don’t have to have a drivers license to operate an eBike, it’s not a vehicle.

  37.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    The districts are simply equal-population areas of the counties in BART.

  38.  

    Justin

    That’s probably because in Santa Clara and most of San Mateo County there’s no BART service yet

  39.  

    94103er

    What’s with these districts? Great, good to know the Farallon Islands are covered. What about San Mateo & Santa Clara counties?!?

  40.  

    NoeValleyJim

    It was shut down by the voters in the 60s.

  41.  

    murphstahoe

    Every time Fang has a challenger. Then he supports extensions to Berryessa and Livermore instead

  42.  

    gneiss

  43.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    Is this the only real race? Seems like the other races are between the incumbents and random chumps.

  44.  

    SFnative74

    BART under Geary makes a lot of sense. Imagine it connecting to the Transbay Center and the SOMA, getting people there in 10 or 15 minutes instead of 45 min. But how long has this idea of BART to the beach been discussed with no action?

  45.  

    Gezellig

    Thanks for the writeup. I live in District 8, so this is helpful info.

    If regressive status-quo enablers such as Lee and Breed are for someone (and the SFBC is against) I think the decision for me at least is pretty clear on that one.

  46.  

    94103er

    LOL, long-time SFer here talking about ‘Hays Gulch’…hmm. Did it ever occur to you that there wasn’t much traffic there before *because* the Central Freeway created a dead neighborhood underneath? Same goes for the Embarcadero. But thanks for stopping by.

  47.  

    94103er

    Rage caps, unsubstantiated bogus claims, total misunderstanding of traffic-planning jargon, multiple postings…yep, you’ve got it all. Congrats: You’re the latest annoying troll!

  48.  

    94103er

    No, what’s ‘kind of making a mess of everything’ is that we are currently at 10,000 cars per square mile. TEN. THOUSAND. Someone with more knowledge than you is looking at that and realizing we need to stop allowing so much easy access to car-only infrastructure and let people get around safely by other means.

  49.  

    the_greasybear

    Agreed. We benefit from his focus on our local transportation battles.

  50.  

    jd_x

    This doesn’t even warrant a response. You should read up on Streetsblog (or any other transit blog) to understand how cars not driven at *all* actually release much less emissions than those moving or stuck in traffic.