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  1.  

    RichLL

    As a big fan of Prop 13, I rarely vote for bond measures, usually only for police and prison bonds. And I do have my doubts about this one too, because we should not borrow for operations and maintenance and only for capital spend. But especially since it will embolden the unions to push for ever more generous pay, benefit and pension packages, as you note.

    It would have been much better if BART management had slapped down the unions during the strike a couple of years ago, but of course they caved spinelessly.

    That said, I doubt that a do-over of the gauge is feasible. It could only be done system-wide, which implies the entire system being off-line for months. If we’re going to spend that much money, better to build a brand-new system with a second tunnel and connect the two. But for the existing system, I think we’re stuck with it more or less as-is.

  2.  

    Henry

    Planning Department to present results from last year’s Pavement to Parks Public Life study today at noon. Refreshments provided. http://pavementtoparks.org/research-project/san-francisco-plazas-public-life-study/

  3.  

    JustJake

    BART has made it well known that their infrastructure is at the end of its useful lifespan. We will never have a better moment to change to standard guage rails, and the utilization of “generic” train cars. While we are at it, let’s amputate the entire management and employee pension boat-anchor that forever burdens the Bay Area. Hard choices need to be made.

  4.  

    JustJake

    “the only alternative is to support this bond measure” Alas, this angle of being extorted and/or threatened to support BART is a significant element in the upcoming rejection of the bond. After the November bond fails, perhaps we can have a real discussion about rail transit, independent of their hopes of riding the coat tails of the presidential election ballot.

  5.  

    RichLL

    It fascinates me that so-called transit activists hate on BART so much, and especially given that it is the most efficient and well-used local system of transportation in the Bay Area, apart from the freeway system which was far more expensive.

    In fact the original BART was built for just a billion dollars or so, was state-of-the-art at the time, and was the first major new urban rail system in the U.S. since before WW2.

    And since there is plan to scrap BART and build a new system from scratch, the only alternative is to support this bond measure. Whether it will get a 2/3 majority is another matter of course, and voters in San Francisco may not see the same value in BART as the residents of the East Bay.

  6.  

    RichLL

    Alberto, both your comments and hers are totally off-topic. If all you have to say is a personal attack on someone else, then better to remain silent.

  7.  

    JustJake

    So over the BART drama… let it fail and let’s evolve with a different rail transit system. I’d support Billions for a replacement, but I won’t vote for a nickel for BART.

  8.  

    alberto rossi

    Frances Taylor’s comment is more interesting than most of RichLL’s

  9.  

    Frances Taylor

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  10.  

    Frances Taylor

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    two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month’s payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it’s realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here !tl195x:➽:➽:.➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsRocketGetPay$98Hour…. .★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★::::::!tl195x….,.

  11.  

    Frances Taylor

    “my room mate Lori Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr”…..!tl195x

    two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month’s payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it’s realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here !tl195x:➽:➽:.➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsRocketGetPay$98Hour…. .★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★::::::!tl195x….,

  12.  

    Rob

    You do not offer constructive criticism. If you did, perhaps you would make your previous comments open for review. What you do is contradict yourself and just argue for whatever point is convenient. There is a ‘today’s headlines’ post where you argue about the panhandle path like you have been there when it was obvious from your posts you had no idea what you were talking about. Did you learn that from high school debate?

    I think someone is paying you for each post and you do destroy some of the constructive arguments that I enjoyed reading about in the comments. So money well spent. You win, you argue about nothing. I have such a hard time figuring out what point you are trying to make in your posts. But there are many of them. Perhaps you missed your chance of going into politics — but then, someone would fact check you.

  13.  

    mx

    BART spends the last 40 years letting its infrastructure decay, threatens voters with devastation of the Bay Area economy if we don’t bail ourselves out of the hole.

  14.  

    Benjamin Pease

    If you take the wood-frame dentist office at 19th and Eucaluptus and either demolish it, or move it onto the existing M right of way, the M could be made to turn onto 19th Ave. at Eucalyptus instead of mid-block; the turn would be easier to signal-protect in conjunction with the regular intersection stop light instead of the world’s longest “please keep clear please” zone. A sharper turn (or reverse curve) would be balanced by easier passage in most conditions. That and nix the left-turn-in-streetcar lane at Winston/Stonestown as suggested.

  15.  

    Rogue Cyclist

    The museum used to run a shuttle to the Niles Canyon Railway platform on Sundays. I wonder if they still do that.

    Their open house sounds fun. It’s about a 20 min walk from Fremont BART.

  16.  

    roymeo

    Did Uber, et al exist back when you were in Seattle and Los Angeles?

  17.  

    mx

    Hit and killed by her own paratransit bus around the corner from a forum on pedestrian safety for seniors and people with disabilities. You couldn’t make this stuff up. :(

    There was another person struck by a driver in the Tenderloin today too: http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Pedestrian-struck-by-vehicle-in-SF-s-Tenderloin-7974068.php?t=3dccf36a3c897d7998&cmpid=email-premium

  18.  

    Rogue Cyclist

  19.  

    Jame

    Really, because it seems like SF racks up by adding a lot of daytime office workers and doesn’t need to house them collecting all that business revenue.

  20.  

    Jame

    BART, Caltrain, and Ferries don’t get you to school, the grocery store or your doctors appointments. And they don’t get you to the last mile to/from home or work.

  21.  

    ebflute

    When will the construction begin? It is so dangerous crossing the on ramps everyday for me as I commute on my bike to work. I take the bike path for most of the way but I have no other way to get across the highway. The path is extremely narrow as well so it makes it difficult when there are bikes coming from two directions.

  22.  

    SF Guest

    How boring would it be if every blogger simply agreed with everyone else and offered no diverse opinion? There are many bloggers here that relish bashing private auto use when given the opportunity.

  23.  

    gneiss

    Person exiting bus killed by Paratransit driver in SF today: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Pedestrian-hit-and-killed-by-vehicle-in-San-7973538.php

  24.  

    RichLL

    I’m sorry that you don’t enjoy constructive criticism, a diversity of opinions and a robust and vigorous exchange of ideas. You probably miss opportunities to learn by seeking to avoid debates that challenge your thinking.

    As for sanity, I’d normally regard commuting from Healdsburg to the South Bay as something no sane person would do but then, as stated, I don’t feel threatened by diverse perspectives.

  25.  

    Henry

    Highly recommend the Pacific Bus Museum. They have an open house every August (second to last Sunday, I believe) where one can view, tour, and ride the buses. Too bad it’s difficult to access by biking, and impossible to access directly via public transit. If one is interested in historic bus rides in the Bay Area in general, I’d recommend checking out NorCal Bus Fans as they have one coming up (they have an FB page).

  26.  

    tonistolle

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  27.  

    Jada Barnhouse

    Practical comments – Apropos , if your company has been looking for a DoJ Form FD-258 , my kids saw a template version here http://goo.gl/vsCUgS

  28.  

    murphstahoe

    I’m just trying to figure out why any sane person would be “trying to win debates” on Streetsblog.

  29.  

    RichLL

    Not really, but the experience gained is useful in winning debates now. And if I wasn’t winning debates here, you wouldn’t be so sore at me.

    But the point here was to get jonobate to see why his obsession with “data” makes his arguments less effective.

  30.  

    murphstahoe

    “Back at high school and college, I was on the debating team. We’d know
    what the topic was ahead of time, but not which side of it that we’d
    have to argue.”

    I see. You miss the old high school debate days. As the bard would say – SAD!

  31.  

    murphstahoe

    Why are you scared to discuss the issues?

    Is that what we are doing? I thought we were playing a game of trap the commenter?

  32.  

    RichLL

    I honestly didn’t think you’d fall for it.

    How about less attempts to get censorship or get others banned, less personal attacks, and more discussion about the issues and the topic?

    Problem?

  33.  

    murphstahoe

    “I did set an inference trap for Murph which he fell for, and evidently you did too. “

    “I allowed Murph to think what he wanted to think, to entrap him”

    This is supposed to be a discussion board, not a contest where RichLL can try to trap people.

    Can we ban this loser now?

    Looking forward to RichLL’s discussion of how he didn’t actually “trap” me, that I merely inferred it, but actually his real point is that rent control is bad.

  34.  

    RichLL

    Not as stated, perhaps. But if you listen to what people like Campos are saying, it is clear that they believe that Airbnb has reduced the number of available rent-controlled units in SF.

    And that if Airbnb could somehow be stopped, then those units would magically return to long-term rental.

    I disagree, and I think this is mostly a political move, based on a dislike for tech, Conway, the sharing economy and disrupters in general

  35.  

    murphstahoe

    That’s not the real point, as I read it.

  36.  

    RichLL

    Anyone with experience understands that people start out with values, beliefs and opinions, and then search out “data” and “evidence” that support them. That is the entire basis for confirmation bias, which exists everywhere and with everyone.

    Back at high school and college, I was on the debating team. We’d know what the topic was ahead of time, but not which side of it that we’d have to argue. So we brought along “facts” that supported both sides, and then only used the ones that supported the side we had to argue.

    So I learned at a young age that facts are infinitely malleable. Getting back to rent control, SF has the strictest rent control in the nation and the highest rents. Right there a reasonable person can tell that something is awry with your argument.

    And I’ve lived in SF long enough to know that anyone who is “fascinated” with the subject of rents and housing costs ALWAYS has an agenda.

  37.  

    RichLL

    They did. Murph ducked and you are doubling down on your mistake.

  38.  

    jonobate

    Whatever. Those reading can judge for themselves.

  39.  

    RichLL

    I see no admission there. I allowed Murph to think what he wanted to think, to entrap him into claiming in a precious prissy way that he always obeyed the law, so that I could then nail him by pointing out that he breaks laws he disagrees with, like the bike stop law.

    I employed a rhetorical device as a tactic to entice him into a position of hypocrisy, in order to debunk his posturing here.

    Evidently it was too subtle and nuanced for both of you.

  40.  

    jonobate

    You – “I don’t blindly follow all laws regardless of their merit and justness. Nor did Rosa Parks.”

    Murph – “I see – you refused to pay your taxes because civil rights.”

    You – “Let’s put it this way. I did the same thing that you do when you are on a bike and there’s a stop sign ahead.”

    Seems pretty clear to me. If you’re saying that you admitted doing something that you didn’t actually do, and were therefore lying to murphstahoe, then any fallout from that lie is your own problem.

  41.  

    RichLL

    No, you misread or misunderstood. There was no such admission. I did set an inference trap for Murph which he fell for, and evidently you did too.

    Of course, neither you nor he voluntarily pays CA sales tax on your out-of-state purchases, as you are supposed to do, because nobody does. So you’re a tax evader too.

    But I’d rather debate the issues than throw dirt around. It’s telling that you don’t feel the same way.

  42.  

    jonobate

    As for “data”, politics is far more about values than data.

    Facts are tricky things, aren’t they?

    Anyone can cherry-pick “data” to support their case.

    That’s true, but there’s no indication that that was done in this case. I really don’t believe that Eric Fischer fabricated or cherry-picked his data to cover up the evils of rent control.

  43.  

    jonobate

    The fact that you think all landlords are tax evaders shows your own personal bias.

    I didn’t say that I think that all landlords are tax evaders. I said you are a tax evading landlord, and I said that because you admitted as much in a reply to murphstahoe below.

  44.  

    RichLL

    I never said that rent control was the only factor, but it should be obvious to anyone who thinks about it for more than a minute that rent control suppresses the provision of rental housing by making it financially unattractive to offer it.

    You only have to look at the thousands of no-fault evictions where the owner then puts the unit to another use to see that effect at work.

    I agree that NIMBYism and a good local economy are factors too, along with the geographical constraints. But it is simply common sense to understand that the best way to encourage owners to make their units available is not to punish them for doing so.

    The fact that you think all landlords are tax evaders shows your own personal bias. The tax breaks are actually fairly good for landlords (for the reasons I cited above) and their activity is public, so there is zero incentive to do that. You betray your prejudice in suggesting otherwise.

  45.  

    davravidumn

    One year in county jail is not sufficient, relative to Mr. Calder’s willful negligence. His girlfriend should have been charged as an accomplice, too.

  46.  

    jonobate

    Thanks, that actually makes a ton of sense. I’m starting to be convinced.

  47.  

    reedm

    I’ll try to find a way to create a visualization of the model. It surprised me quite a bit, but on the high level it has to do with:

    1. The amount of time spent merging into the tunnel
    2. The amount of time spent backed up in the tunnel
    3. The existing frequency of trains in the tunnel
    4. Boarding times are reduced underground

    In order to get 2-3 minute frequencies underground between Embarcadero and West Portal, including turnarounds, it takes 10 trainsets. During rush hour, we actually have frequencies as low as every minute or less in the tunnel, which is unnecessary and rooted in the need for 6-7 minute frequencies above ground. 2 minute frequency 300 foot trains is plenty for the underground corridor, particularly as it allows us to remove turnaround backups. During rush hour with backups, monitoring the trains over 6 months, we saw that there can be as many as 34 trains in the tunnel at any given time. Those are trains that could be providing service to above ground passengers.

    Shifting merging time from train travel time to passenger travel time gives back the time to the network, on the order of 160 hours per day. Removing backed up train time gives back on the order of 230 hours per day. That alone winds up being over 500 extra runs per day in saved time.

    Based on our research for boarding times, during peak hours, our outbound train dwell time is far higher than comparable systems underground (averaging over 20 seconds), which is not only due to non-optimized subway trains, but also to having 6 lines boarding at the same platform, creating platform crowding and “swimming through crowds” to board. In a single-line scenario, every person boards every train.

    All of these gains get put back into the above-ground network, adding 3-8 trains per line, bringing anywhere from 33% frequency improvements to over 50%.

  48.  

    JustJake

    Can’t get rid of it, true. Best hope is to keep it in proper size and retain accountability. We’ve had the city/county type government for centuries. Not perfect, but way better than regional government. If you want cooperation, respect the needs of the various counties. Which is opposite to what just happened in the MTC hostile takeover of ABAG. Collectively, SF, Oakland and SJ are 30% of the Bay Area. The other 70% should have twice the voice and twice the power. A complete flip from the status-quo.

  49.  

    Chris

    Politics is part of the problem, but how do you get rid of it? Politics is inherent not only to representative democracy, but to any other actual form of government that I’ve heard of. (I don’t count philosopher kingship as an actual form of government.)

  50.  

    JustJake

    ” Reasonable. Moderate. Government “. This. It will never happen. Politics are the problem, not the solution.