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    Liz Brisson

    I had the pleasure of sitting on the review panel for Professor Henderson’s class’s final presentations. I think there are some fantastic ideas that were generated (some more feasible than others) and I organized a brownbag for SF city agency staff that has inspired some additional conversations. hp2ena’s comments regarding the 19th Avenue Transit Study ( ), which is now launched into its next phase of work as the 19th Avenue/M-Ocean View Project (see ), are accurate. As a part of that project, we would re-gain the right-of-way from on-street parking and the median light-rail to re-purpose for a separated bike path on west side of street, as well as wider sidewalks and a landscaped median. The M-Ocean View would be re-routed through Parkmerced with the SF State station at Holloway on the west side of street so SF State visitors would not need to cross 19th Avenue, removing this major conflict point. To get back to the east side of the street, we would build a bridge over Junipero Serra between Font and Randolph Street that would also accommodate pedestrian and cyclists providing connection between Parkmerced/SF State and OMI and Parkmerced/SF State and Daly City BART . We will be doing more design work this year before launching environmental review next year and will proactively seek more guidance from the walking and cycling communities (schedule for these activities to be announced soon-you can opt in to our email list from the SFMTA website page) about needs and desires to be folded into the design (I’m thinking walking and cycling tours would be a lot of fun!) There’s no need to pit the need to improve cycling access against transit access. They are both important and complementary. That said, the soonest we can get the 19th Ave/M-Ocean View project built is many years out, so its worth thinking about simpler and lower-cost solutions in the meantime. I remember several of us were very intrigued by the potential for an elegant and low-cost bridge that could be built across Brotherhood Way at St. Charles, and thought this could be a good Safe Routes to Transit grant application. This was a barrier that students in Professor Henderson’s class identified as a big one for campus access from Daly City BART. Anyone with specific questions about the 19th Avenue/M-Ocean View project is welcome to contact me directly at or 415.522.4838.



    Interesting article. Can you figure out why there are so many police cars parked right in the middle of the street on Eddy at Jones? I have yet to pass by there when there is not at least one police car blocking a full lane of traffic.



    Looks like the campus of UC Davis is much larger than SFSU. The buildings at SFSU are not too far apart and are connected with pathways for pedestrians.
    In the current layout there isn’t enough room to add bike lanes between buildings on the SFSU campus.



    They’re of course not mutually exclusive, though. Even if SFSU had a dedicated multimodal (BART/Muni/bus/…even HSR? :D) station on-campus it would still make a lot of sense to push to improve the on-campus and neighboring bike infrastructure.

    As it stands now probably the lowest-hanging fruit is giving the thousands of students who live within a mile or so of campus better biking options. A second would be something like a better set of bike options from Daly City BART to campus for all those East Bay commuters.



    This is indeed not the first time I came across this sort of “suggestion”: transit sucks and will not be fixed, please, y’all fit 20-somethings, start riding bikes to make more space on transit for others.

    It is a very demoralizing way to promote cycling.

    Moreover, the university has a lot of students who commute from East Bay, Marin county and elsewhere in the region.



    The “But we can’t have _____ in _____ because _____” excuses are always hilarious.

    Meanwhile, universities given to more extreme weather than SFSU practically celebrate it:

    Oh, because it’s *precisely* their infrastructure that makes it a no-brainer to bike around regardless of the weather.

    From the Sac Bee, “Rain and storm clouds didn’t deter these bicyclists from wearing their shorts at (sic) flip flops at the UC Davis campus in Davis, Calif., on Thursday, September 25, 2014.”


    Karen Lynn Allen

    Hilarious! At the University of Minnesota, 8500 kids bike to class each day. Luckily for Minnesotans they only have snow, not fog to contend with! And their temperatures only drop to 10 below zero, not a chilly 45 degrees! Weather is definitely what is stopping SF State students from biking.



    And funny enough, there happens to be just such a large university town in the Central Valley that gets far more extreme (much colder in winter, much hotter in summer) than SF ever sees + Tule fog + more precipitation and has one of the highest bike modeshares in North America:

    Davis in February fog. Looks like plenty of bikes still got out. They don’t exactly cancel class because it’s foggy.

    What’s the difference? Long-standing and pervasive commitment to infrastructure:

    early parking-protected cycletrack, 1960s, Davis

    Bikeway undercrossing I-80, Davis

    When you make biking around a no-brainer, people will even brave the elements because it’s still the best way to get around. This is true whether in Northern Europe or North America–but the infrastructure has to be there.



    Meanwhile, the horror of other universities in California that dared to build infrastructure for both people on bike and foot:


    UC Santa Barbara


    The horror!



    I find it ironic that when the article mentions that the Muni M streetcar line is packed with students but “unreliable,” the solution seems to be that the students need to start biking.

    How about the novel notion of fixing Muni so we have good, reliable service like other world class cities! (in addition to helping students bike)



    Fang talks about how he was instrumental in the SFO extension.

    11 years later, if you try to take Caltrain to BART to SFO, you have to switch from Caltrain to BART at Millbrae, take it to San Bruno, switch to another train, that will then take you to SFO – despite there being a direct track from Millbrae to SFO.

    That switch is because the ridership of the Millbrae to SFO track is not high enough to justify running the trains (which were operational when the extension opened). There is no reason to believe that this will change. That’s a pretty expensive ornament.

    The garages at the 4 stations on the extension have operated well under capacity since opening. Those garages now serve in large part as cheap airport parking – which BART honestly underprices at $6 per day compared to $13 at Anza (you have to buy a BART ticket while Anza takes you on a shuttle, but at Anza I tip the valets and drivers close to what a BART ticket would be). Basically it’s very convenient to drive to BART and very inconvenient to take Caltrain to BART. That’s backwards.

    Summary – this huge project was poorly planned and scoped. If James Fang wants to take credit for this project, then the blame lands on him.


    Duste Allen

    Fact: The intersection of 19th and Holloway is just awful. As someone who lives in this area, who takes Muni and rides a bike, I don’t blame students for not wanting to ride their bike to campus. Not only is 19th a cut-throat kill or be killed road to be on, but trying to maneuver 19th and Holloway as either a biker or pedestrian is like playing chicken. Unfortunately, any plans to make 19th and Holloway any safer are many, many years out and Dist. 7 Supe doesn’t really care much about a fix right now.



    Those pedestrians all got killed trying to cross 19th, so it’s no problem.



    That’s like saying that Mark Zuckerberg is the poorest person of the 5 richest people on the planet.

    When we claim the area around SF State has “inhospitable weather” I think it’s time for the human race to pack it in, we’re just a bunch of loser pansies. Our forefathers would be embarrassed.



    I guess you need to be told it doesn’t rain (or snow) any more in that corner of town than in the rest of the city. So are you seriously trying to tell us some gray skies and a little fog are not ‘hospitable’ for cycling?!? Even if this area experienced the dense tule fog like what’s found in the Central Valley (hardly ever), your comment would be moronic–biking around is a thousand times safer than driving in those conditions.


    Tom H

    FYI, I think the mode split in the TDM plan represents all campus affiliates, not just students. If so, I suspect that the student drive alone rate is lower and the student walk/bike rate is higher.

    IMO, the issue is the percentage of commuters who live within 2-3 miles of the campus or 1/2 mile from a BART station who are currently driving and how can we retrofit the nearby areas to facilitate better bicycling (or walking). Also, free/unregulated parking on Junipero Serra Blvd certainly doesn’t help.



    What you see as anti-bike I see as pro pedestrian. The last thing SFSU needs is bikes buzzing peds in crowded plazas and on narrow paths.


    sebra leaves

    This weather is the least hospitable in the city. You can hardly expect to combat that problem with infrastructure.



    Love these! BART -> SFSU with a right-of-way like that would be really powerful.



    Hah. Yeah. Though lots of students do live within a mile or two of SFSU. And most of them don’t bike to campus.

    That being said if there were a protected bikeway going directly from Daly City BART up 19th Ave that could help a lot of the BART commuters to SFSU. Daly City BART to SFSU is a classic “last-mile” problem and it’s a particularly inhospitable mile to bikes.


    Jeffrey Baker

    Your comment seems to presuppose that the new span will stay up in a major quake.


    Jeffrey Baker

    I guess not putting the campus out in BFE didn’t come up?



    I believe as part of the 19th Avenue Transit Study, there will be plans for a separated bikeway on some part of the street. I don’t know where on 19th in the campus vicinity. I also know that as part of the plan, there may be a multimodal bridge built just north of Brotherhood to accommodate the realigned M-line, as well as a bike-ped connection. Consult Liz Brisson of the SFCTA for more details.

    As for the bikeway by the entrance, I believe SF State wants to redesign the entrance to coordinate with the 19th Avenue Transit Study. The Urban Design Studio of the Urban Studies and Planning department (which I was also a part of) presented recommendations which can be found at



    Not all the pics seem to work one more try.



    I got inspired to think of possibilities and made some drawings. Below is a possible route from SFSU to BART. (sorry for the missing L)

    But there are many more routes necessary. A very easy route would lead next to Lake Merced blvd to Sunset blvd and than along Sunset all the way to GG Park.



    Sadly, it does not appear this person’s postings are anything but earnest and sober in the writer’s mind. Data from SFPD show that over 60% of all reported crashes with pedestrians are ‘driver at fault’ — and clearly, in many cases, the person getting hit is either dead or so seriously injured as to not be able to provide a counterpoint, so that percentage by all common-sense standards is likely an undercount.

    But the poster has ‘personal experience’ that is apparently statistically sound and factually indisputable.

    Moreover, not only does he/she observe a different reality than the data show, he/she is also able to determine state of mind and intent on the part of the individual people walking. A lot of judgement being cast, for someone who references Jesus’ grace in their post.



    –> Infrastructure is a huge factor:

    1) Despite being a major bike route, Holloway has no physically separated lanes at any point, just sharrows, conventional lanes and double-parking (and really, at points, double-driving) lanes.

    2) 19th Ave has no infrastructure. Sometimes people just bike on the sidewalks.

    –> Institutionalized Anti-Bike policies:

    1) SF State forbids biking on-campus. Overzealous campus popo will hand out tickets for riding your bike on campus.

    2) On that note, overzealous campus/area SF police in general. The only ticket I have ever ever received for biking through a “Stop” sign was at the roundabout at Tapia/Arballo/Font by an SFSU officer.

    *First of all, it’s crazy that a roundabout even has a stop sign in the first place

    *Second of all the policeman was clearly trolling for tickets. Practically no one else was around and it was a quiet evening. I was ironically avoiding going through campus so as to avoid a ticket for riding there.

    I’m also pretty sure I would’ve been fine if I had just been biking on the sidewalk, as I saw someone else do right past the police officer (which he did nothing about).

    Btw, when you get a ticket for going through a stop sign, it’s the same code and fine as if you were a car. Since biking is still a minority activity, it still very much attracts undue attention from police due to illusory correlation ( I’m not a college student and I even found the resulting $200 fine breathtakingly absurd (and it motivated me to finally sign up for the SFBC!). Imagine if you’re a poor college kid.

    These institutionalized cultural and insane financial biases against biking + poor infrastructure all very much contribute to low modeshare in the area.



    I had to watch a Ford ad to see the clip. . . .



    It was never really an option. That span was so seismically deficient, no amount of retrofitting could have kept it up in a major quake.



    Didn’t know that this debate was being held until I read this article I still probably couldn’t go because I was busy. Hope they have another one, though I doubt it, hopefully in a more spacious area that can attract more people


    Jeffrey Baker

    I agree the connection between Toxic Acres and Lake Merritt area and Lake Merritt BART specifically will make the difference between a major benefit to Oakland or a disconnected, car-choked eyesore.



    The grant covers design and engineering, but passing Measure BB on the November ballot in Alameda County will go a long way towards actually getting the bridge built. With all the new construction about to happen in the Brooklyn Basin area, this bike/ped connection is becoming increasingly more important.


    Jeffrey Baker

    Great news about the lake merrit bridge. Going that route today is a miserable and dangerous undertaking. Even the mayor managed to mumble appropriate bike friendly words for the occasion.



    The original idea of retrofitting the old Bay Bridge eastern span is looking better every day.


    Dave Moore

    If 48hills is correct then the “deal” is basically just an understanding. Nothing has been officially passed. To pass a Mello-Roos tax district those being taxed have to agree to it, and that hasn’t happened yet. If the district is not passed then the City has the ability to revoke the building permits, leaving SF with a big hole in the ground. It’s not clear to me how things got this far without the district being approved. Is that common, that there’s a stage after construction starts that both sides wait until before passing the legislation? In any event it appears the developers can walk away from the deal if they want. The city can say “take the deal on the table or no building”. The developers can say “give us a new deal or no building”. Both sides want the building. So it’s a game of chicken, or a deal could be brokered as it almost was. If it all falls through everyone starts suing everyone and the hole stays.


    Bryan Deng

    I prefer the rehab Muni buses over the non-rehab ones. I like the current paint scheme except the coach number which may be unreadable by a 50-year-old due to that number being white on gray.



    The 11 mph rule doesn’t apply anymore.It’s now 3, maybe 5 max, and a lot of officers demand that drivers stick to posted speed limit regardless of traffic. You actually can get a ticket for driving 5 mph over speed limit..and abig one, with traffic school. Things changed a lot, that’s why 25 is driving on breaks and 30-35 is safe, smooth traffic, with fully signalised intersections lights and ped’s crossing signals…which also very short on timing like 20 sec for 6 lanes!


    Mario Tanev

    “Opposed” is a stretch. “Expressed skepticism” is more like it. He also “expressed skepticism” when Sunday meters were introduced. To some extent, every politician panders to both sides.



    Weiner opposed the Sunday metering reversal. But it is the MTA who sets parking policy, not the BoS. Weiner made an agreement with the Mayor to pull the VLF from this ballot in return for his support in two years. Lee is worried about A not passing. Or so I was told. MTA also controls SF Park.



    I think it’s safe to say this guy’s perspective was well formed before he even got on this purported ’20mph electric bike,’ which apparently he thinks makes him omniscient.



    Whoa, um, hey everybody, tl;dr so I’ll sum up, pedestrians got it comin’ to ‘em. No need to investigate further; SFPD, go on home.



    Wow, is this a joke?


    Andy Chow

    But have to be drawn so that SF gets three representatives. Zakhary Mallett is the 3rd rep in SF. His district includes the City of Richmond, Emeryville, and West Oakland.

    San Mateo and Santa Clara counties are not in the BART district. Their transit agencies (SamTrans and VTA) essentially have an arrangement with BART to fund the construction (and VTA instead is building the BART line on its own) and purchase the service.

    To expand the district, there are issues such as equity that needs to be resolved. Some people in the current BART district would say that the new counties need to contribute more money because taxpayers in the current district has already paid for the core infrastructure for BART. SamTrans already paid a “buy-in” fee for the SFO line, and for VTA, they have an arrangement where it will have to pay a premium on top of the operating cost (which VTA seems to ignore) to upgrade the infrastructure on the older part of the system.

    If the BART district were to cover the other two counties, because of the high combined populations there, it would make the East Bay and SF under-represented. The new district would probably have a very different priorities which makes it poplitically very unlikely.

    The other issue is whether the tax be raised in the new counties just for BART or that there should be some reapportionment of the existing taxes. In the East Bay, because of the separation of roles between BART and bus agencies such as AC Transit, there are complicated arrangements of splitting the tax money. There are no such issues in San Mateo and Santa Clara counties, because they each have a single agency funding everything, including Caltrain. Also, should be expanded district include Caltrain, which it does have a regional role? And as BART is getting itself running alternate technologies (which it should’ve been like what other metro areas have done), having it to operate Caltrain seems logical.



    Once again, allow me to reiterate. I take issue with those who politicize this issue. I experience and witness what happens on the streets of SF each and every day for the past 5 years. I feel I’m well qualified to be contributing to this forum because I’ve been all over this city on a electric bicycle. The areas I cover on a bike are generally between Dog Patch all the way to the Sunset up to 23rd street as well as the Richmond District’s Veteran’s hospital. I’ve covered 15,000 miles on my bike since 2009 sometimes in rain, cold temps and windy conditions since I’m on-call.

    1. Chinese elderly and the disabled are entering crosswalks without regard for the street lights that only have 2 seconds remaining for large streets.

    2. People in the multitudes are jaywalking as if it’s normal and they do so very arrogantly without regard for traffic or bicyclists and often don’t bother to look if cars are coming or not.

    3. Skateborders have come into the fray, the ones with electric boards as well who are just recklessly riding around on busy streets with headphones and earbuds. Their arrogance is astounding to witness as if they can just do whatever they want on the streets. I’ve seen them swerve in and out of traffic on those electric skateboards without a care in the world.

    What I’m seeing is a trend of crazy pedestrian activities disregarding the lights, entering into the crosswalk far too casually without regard for light changes. They are like zombies tuned into their iPhones who aren’t checking for traffic. I witness them continually jay walking across major streets without a care causing a lot of chaos. They are self absorbed and arrogant to have ear buds in their ears, or headphones without regard for the reality of the dangers around them. This was unheard of years ago.

    The jay walkers often don’t bother to look to see if cars are coming, they are selfishly wanting to avoid having to wait for lights and there isn’t any law enforcement to stop them. This happens on every street in San Francisco every day. I witness long lines of people walking in front of 555 California building in the middle of the street when the crosswalk is only a few yards away. That’s right, they walk in the middle of the street rather than using the cross walk, and it’s a very wide street (between Kearny and Montgomery). There is traffic, there are bicyclists and they have the AUDACITY to enter the street without a care. They are too lazy to go up a few years to the crosswalk and endanger everyone else.

    Every single day there are stragglers who are self absorbed with their iPhones who don’t check to see the lights have changed and they’re in the middle of the cross walk when the lights turn green for cars to go. If pedestrians don’t want to be killed they need to look out for themselves and stop playing the victim.



    I’m not at all surprised because 90% of the time it’s the pedestrian’s fault being preoccupied and oblivious to the dangers of jay walking and entering the crosswalk far too casually. I can assure you the peds are out of line in this city abusing the law that protects them from vehicles no matter what they do. The consequence is often serious injury or death for abusing the grace provided to them in that law.

    These people can get real and take responsibility for their own lives and stop believing cars will stop for them for their unlawful entry into the street and crosswalks or they can continue with the victim mentality of their poor little lives getting hit by cars. When they’re dead for relying on a magical law that they can do whatever they want with impunity, I hope they’ve at least received Jesus into their lives.



    What a twisted interpretation of what I wrote. It really reflects on how you think and choose to project your own evil sentiments onto others. Do you care to quote what you’re referring to? You must be one of those radical liberals who relies on the victim mentality instead of taking responsibility for your own life. Those elderly Chinese people need to take responsibility for their lives by being attentive to the crosswalk lights that were installed with a system to prevent them from entering the street too late.

    I witness some who don’t give a darn what the street sign says who walk out into the street endangering not only themselves, but those others who may interpret their actions by assuming the light’s green aka the herd mentality. When someone enters the crosswalk they think it’s okay and don’t look up at the light.



    You’re too politicizing this issue. I see what happens on the streets each and every day as I have the past 5 years on a bicycle. I have no engine, I have a 20mph electric bike. I’m referring to my being stopped and waiting at major intersections witnessing elderly Chinese people who step out into the intersection with 2 seconds remaining at large streets such as California@Hyde and Sutter@Grant. The elderly and handicapped who can’t move very quickly are entering large dangerous intersections when the cross walk sign discloses they don’t have enough time.

    Worse then this, I witness pedestrians continually jay walk on busy large streets on their iPhones or with earbuds. They are apparently oblivious to the dangers. I witness people enter large streets all of the time outside of crosswalks and today witnessed a man who didn’t even bother to look at if traffic was coming who relied on his hearing.

    I feel I’m in touch with reality because I witness what’s really happening on the streets each and every day. I ride all over the city and there is a rampant disregard by pedestrians who disobey the traffic lights and think nothing of jay walking on dangerous streets. There is no police enforcement of jay walking pedestrians who are endangering bicyclists by continually entering the streets outside crosswalks without warning.

    When people get infected with the liberal politics they become largely void of reality. This liberal mindset enables this dangerous environment on the streets to thrive as if everyone can do their own thing without consequences. And when someone like me makes that point there’s always someone like yourself to make sure the pedestrians are made out to be little angels who are always the victim of a vehicle in spite of their own negligent actions. You assumed I had a vehicle. I don’t have to have a drivers license to operate an eBike, it’s not a vehicle.


    Jeffrey Baker

    The districts are simply equal-population areas of the counties in BART.



    That’s probably because in Santa Clara and most of San Mateo County there’s no BART service yet



    What’s with these districts? Great, good to know the Farallon Islands are covered. What about San Mateo & Santa Clara counties?!?