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  1.  

    rickbynight

    Just ban ‘em. Bus drivers are annoyed when they drive in the left lane, bikers are annoyed when they’re in the right lane. They make up less than 10% of all people along Market street, so why bother?

  2.  

    Idrather Bebikin

    Argh, should be $10!

    All of these Google, Apple, Genentech, etc. buses should pay $10 per stop at each and every stop! Morning and evenings! Or $5/stop, so it’s $10/day. Even so that’s dirt cheap! Think of how many people are on those buses anyway. Come on SF!

    $1 is a joke. Think of how many people are there and besides… the companies can afford it and it’s not so unreasonable as to burden

  3.  

    Aaron Bialick

    There are some crazy things people apparently don’t notice. Recently, I was on my bike on Irving Street at 7th Ave., and I watched a driver stop at the red light before proceeding straight through it across 7th, at a casual speed. Cross-traffic drivers honked. I caught up with him once the light turned green and asked him if he’d realized what he’d done. He was an elderly man, and seemed to have no idea what I was talking about. I believed him.

  4.  

    Mario Tanev

    Why doesn’t the blocking the box enforcement happen still? And with parking control officers at that?

  5.  

    David Baker

    It seems to make some difference. Eventual enforcement would be good.

  6.  

    Upright Biker

    The whole place is going to look like Christmas on steroids with all the red and green, and it’s not going to make a lick of difference until the culture of the SFPD catches up with the times.

    I’m afraid I may not live that long, and I’m only in my 50s.

  7.  

    p_chazz

    Now let’s see them move a concert grand.

  8.  

    John Rogers

    And right on cue, as I saw this morning, a young woman in a big Volvo SUV drove right down the length of the new red lane, past the TAXI BUS ONLY painted on the street, and sat at the light, surrounded by bright red paint. When she took out her ear buds to hear what I was (politely) saying to her, she said she didn’t notice it was red. And I believe her.

  9.  

    Bob Gunderson

    Red roads are the first sign of the Carpocalypse.

  10.  

    murphstahoe

    So, why in hell is MUNI raising the cost to ride a bus when that’s the little people’s only alternative?

    Because the alternative is raising the cost of parking, which is the big people’s chose alternative.

  11.  

    Justin

    Actually San Francisco’s economy has been doing better than most parts of the country with a low unemployment rate just saying

  12.  

    Jym Dyer

    We can’t have bikeways because of fog, earthquakes, sourdough, and Burning Man.

  13.  

    Jym Dyer

    Oh sure, a Bikes at Work trailer can carry all sorts of things, but it must be totally impossible to move a piano. https://flic.kr/p/avLGrc

  14.  

    Jym Dyer

    A desk, you say? Been there, done that, moved all my furniture by bike. Admittedly, the fancy cabinet took special care: https://flic.kr/p/awyPy3

  15.  

    Jym Dyer

    Motorists kill 2 people every 3 weeks in San Francisco. How simply unfortunate.

  16.  

    timsmith

    Nearly half the spaces in the city have been privatized by property owners who have installed curb cuts. Without paying the city a dime, property owners benefit in the form of exclusive access to this space, which adds substantial value to their property. Likewise, the SFMTA color curb program allows businesses to exclusively use spaces for loading or customer parking.

    These are far more exclusive and direct cases of privatization. If anything carshare opens public spaces to use by more people — including the 1/3 of San Franciscans who don’t own a vehicle, but may be able to afford a carshare membership at a much lower cost.

  17.  

    Gezellig

    “Oshima agreed that other best practices for bikeways should be considered in the Embarcadero design. “It’s not like these are completely unique situations, and I’m hoping that we can really take advantage of successes elsewhere.”

    That’s exactly it. All the supposed cycletrack killers (frequent driveways, deliveries, etc.) are not unique issues to SF and it’s funny to me when people bring up these challenges as if no one had ever encountered that issue before.

    “But you don’t have that many cases where there literally isn’t a back door to be able to get into these piers.”

    Oh, but you do! There’s that whole lowlands nation filled with harbors, rivers, oceanfronts, waterways, piers, dykes, polders, etc. that have plenty of excellent two-way cycletracks along them that have addressed just this issue when it’s come up. :)

    I know SF likes to think its problems are unique but this is another case where they’re really not.

  18.  

    SFnative74

    A key goal is to create space for a comfortable and safe bikeway – some people like the idea of a two-way path for cyclists on the waterside that is separated from pedestrians. A question is, where do we get that space, especially where the Promenade width necks down.

  19.  

    Upright Biker

    The simplest solution would be turning most of the parking along Embarcadero into metered loading during a certain portion of the day, then shift it to passenger drop-off or metered general parking during the hours when it’s more about the customer.

    For the piers or heavier loads, maintain current level of access but use shark’s teeth and signage to indicate that delivery vehicles must yield to oncoming bike traffic.

    Am I missing something? I didn’t go to the workshop, so I’m not fully informed of the challenges, but it doesn’t seem that difficult to work out a pretty good solution using a little common sense.

  20.  

    Kenny Easwaran

    Isn’t the space taken out of public hands and into private as soon as someone puts their car in the spot?

  21.  

    shamelessly

    Clarification: The guy in his 20s hit on a San Jose freeway was not killed; the article says he’s in the hospital in critical condition.

  22.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    The fact that a given thing won’t fit inside another thing does in no way demonstrate that all things must be put in the largest possible thing.

  23.  

    Karen Lynn Allen

    Great photo Aaron. Also check out, “How to Carry Major Appliances on Your Bike”:

    http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2014/06/23/how-to-carry-major-appliances-on-your-bike/

  24.  

    Jamison Wieser

    It was only five years ago when voters last approved more Muni funding, Prop A… which was then used to balance the SFPD budget (and other departments, but primarily to the SFPD) with a 10% cut in Muni service following shortly thereafter.

    Only a few months ago the SFMTA Board of Directors approved a budget that drained millions from Muni to fund free parking, premised by the Mayor on the idea that Muni doesn’t need the money because voters will approve replacement funding this fall.

    This time voters didn’t even have a chance to approve more funding for Muni before it was raided, and to subsidize driving of all things. The money might be dedicated to transit and pedestrian projects, but we’ve only just seen how easy it is to shift money around. Like Volatairemistress pointed out, this measure only maintains the status quo, which leaves little wiggle room to raid it again without impacting negatively Muni riders again.

    Will approving this measure turn out any different than before?

  25.  

    Alicia

    Most delivery trucks can.

  26.  

    Aaron Bialick

  27.  

    murphstahoe

    Most passenger cars cannot deliver a desk

  28.  

    p_chazz

    I’d like to see a cargo bike deliver a desk. Bikes and motor scooters may be fine for small items, but you need a loading zone for large items.

  29.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    The picture of the USPS truck perfectly supports your idea. It’s less than 1000 feet from where that ridiculous jeep is parked to the nearest post office. You could deliver the mail over that distance with a handbasket. Or you could copy more civilized societies and deliver by bicycle, or motor scooter for those in a real hurry. Either would take negligible street space. Either could be parked up on the sidewalk.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0XmWqOlFpcs/S_apbsWqPUI/AAAAAAAAF8s/oDAk_9YcSxI/s1600/12+postman.JPG

    http://www.mfnl.nl/Nieuwsbrief/NB106/Images/NB106RondjeEuropa28b.jpg

  30.  

    murphstahoe

    It is unfortunate that we allow incompetent people to drive cars, indeed.

  31.  

    murphstahoe

    The most important thing to extract from a negligent drivers wallet is his drivers license

  32.  

    Erica_JS

    The only way that would make sense is if the house would never be sold.

  33.  

    BJToepper

    I get the idea that our courts tend to be biased towards drivers, that getting away with murder is most easily accomplished in a car, and that our vehicular codes are unevenly enforced. But we cyclists and pedestrians are too quick to think that locking up every Mr. Magoo would make us safer. Criminality requires intent, or at least extreme negligence, and has to be seen in a broader background of punishment fitting crime. These difficulties don’t make the criminal system an especially effective or efficient way to encourage better driving behavior, nor do they help mitigate harm. By contrast, risk to the pocketbook tends to be very effective. If we held drivers liable for at least half the cost of a crash with a vulnerable user, as they do in the Netherlands, or require drivers to prove they didn’t cause the crash or else pay up, we will have taken some useful first steps at equalizing the roads.

    Ultimately, though, we need better infrastructure.

  34.  

    taco

    Looks like absolute shit. I can’t believe this is happening to our city without any concern for visual impact.

  35.  

    roymeo

    Especially important would be carefully figuring out how those conflict points are supposed to work and building that into the design. If we build a ‘canyon’ protected lane (like the contra-flow lane on Polk) that cyclists can’t get out of, cyclists won’t (and shouldn’t) yield to a vehicle that wants to cross the path through a driveway opening. Those are separate lanes of traffic and we don’t just yield because someone wants to cut across a street from alley to alley. If that’s what they want they must make it so autos _can’t_ easily cut off the bike traffic lane(s) and other autos need to deal with that turning vehicle sitting in front of them, etc.

    If it’s built more along the lines of a raised path with beveled edges that cyclists can get off/on easily, there’s more possibilities for the traffic streams to intermix, cyclists to go around a turning vehicle, etc.

  36.  

    Jym Dyer

    • The Velasquez ruling is a non-story (lawyer makes a bogus argument that gets shot down), but that won’t stop the Chron from milking it, first with a specious story that made sure the mention the unrelated Bucchere tragedy, now with rambling musings from their laid-back columnist guy. Chron coverage is reliably bereft of actual information about bike matters, but plenty of inflammatory nonsense.

    Jon Carroll tends away from the inflammatory, but we still have the lies of omission here: “everyone knows that bicyclists break traffic laws all the time,” but let’s not ever mention the most deadly behavior of all, speeding, which motorists do all the time.

  37.  

    Jym Dyer

    @Greg – Revolution Rickshaws, duh. (Well, okay, admittedly that’s not going to get garbage to the transfer station.)

  38.  

    Jym Dyer

    • Cargo bikes, duh.

  39.  

    Jym Dyer

    The notion that these are civil issues is a problem. Or more to the point, that sticking the word “vehicular” in front of “assault” or “homicide” means it’s somehow less of a choice and less of a crime. Even more to the point, dismissing a whole range of deadly choices as “violations” and “infractions” under the law.

    Lower your expectations, and sure enough, they’re yours.

  40.  

    Jym Dyer

    I also expect peds in cycle track because that’s what they do in NYC — even though they have to step down off the curb.

  41.  

    Diamond heights

    Does anyone have a link to the new full language so I can read it firsthand? I checked the city site and it appears to trail a few weeks. Thank you in advance.

  42.  

    Justin

    All I want to see is a two way waterfront side PROTECTED bikeway built period. The time for protected bikeways on the Embarcadero waterfront is so long OVERDUE, it needs to be seriously built in a timely manner along with the other improvements along the Embarcadero, its time has come

  43.  

    jonobate

    Could be tricky… there are usually light poles or traffic signals at those locations.

  44.  

    aanjager

    It definitely needs thought and good, careful design. Creating bike lanes that are clear for cars or delivery trucks (color) and safe (separated) is one thing.

    A good and crucial addition could be to build bike lanes on almost the same height as the wide sidewalk, so delivery trucks slow down, have to go up a ‘bump’ and realize that they are ‘visiting’ and that bikes and pedestrians go first. Depending on each situation, and total number of necessary access points, traffic lights (for bike and turnout) can help. With of course a green wave for cyclists along Embarcadero.

  45.  

    Greg Costikyan

    The Hudson River bike path should be considered both a model and a warning here. Because separated from traffic, it’s hugely popular, but as with pier access on Embarcadero, there are several points where vehicles need to cut across it to reach businesses or government facilities on the waterfront. And since traffic runs fast on the West Side Highway, and the turnouts across the bike path aren’t always well designed, those points of conflict can be problematic… as a post on Streetsblog NY today about a NY Waterway bus hitting a cyclist shows. Pretty clearly, an Embarcadero bikeway would get a lot of use, but some thought needs to be given about how to minimize conflicts, and potential injuries, when vehicles do cross it to the piers. (I’ve lived in both cities, and biked both routes.)

  46.  

    baklazhan

    Perhaps another option would be to ramp it up to sidewalk level, and back down again, where the parking lane disappears.

  47.  

    Guest

    Assuming that the city isn’t going to cut into the curbs, you’ll need to lose a northbound traffic lane to accommodate a two-way protected cycle track along the waterfront, because the parking lane is intermittent. That would leave one northbound lane for much of the route, which might be contentious.

    For two one-way protected cycle tracks, you can choose to lose a traffic lane or lose the parking lane, with the bike lane being unprotected (i.e. the status quo) in locations where there is currently no parking lane. While I’d rather see a two-way cycle track, this option might be politically easier. You could remove a traffic lane where there is currently 3 or more lanes, and remove parking where there is currently 2 lanes, leaving 2 traffic lanes throughout and preserving parking in the busiest area near the Ferry Building.

  48.  

    Mario Tanev

    Muni’s fare inspection rate is significantly below the industry standards. But having said that, all evidence shows that after taking into account the lifeline pass holders and people who transferred but forgot to tag, the evasion rate is low enough, that it’s not worth making a big fuss out of it. KTVU’s analysis specifically didn’t take that into account.

    No mater how hard Muni may try, they won’t be able to recover as much money as they lost by giving away Sunday parking.

  49.  

    gary

    It’s a wonder they don’t have their helmets on backwards.

  50.  

    Zero

    There is a good video on youtube about a guy from the Netherlands pretty much saying how ridiculous us Americans car when it comes to bikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2THe_10dYs