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    Bruce Halperin

    Zipcar is designed to solve this problem.


    Mario Tanev

    Make signage better, perhaps? Increase enforcement even more so that people learn? Perhaps the 12 pm start time is confusing – people arrive in the morning – no cost and don’t realize they’ll be charged later. Change the start time to 9 am like every other day.


    Bruce Halperin

    When too many people speed the street needs to be redesigned so that people aren’t tempted to do so. I’m not sure what the analogue would be here, though – maybe encourage people to take transit rather than drive and get a parking ticket?



    I wonder how big of an underserved market there is for recreation for folk who don’t have a car or prefer to avoid the weekend hill traffic. There was a recent article about how tourism has increased in Portland but car rentals have not increased – more people are vacationing without driving.


    Mario Tanev

    I can understand the argument that something is awry when the citation rate is higher than the other days. It could be that:

    1. Enforcement is higher on Sundays, in which scaling it down (but not eliminating it) doesn’t sound bad. As far as I understand, this is not the case.
    2. People are still not used to Sunday meters, or refuse to pay for whatever reason. Scaling down enforcement will probably not help to solve the root problem.

    This solution is akin to the 85th percentile speed limit solution. When too many people speed, just make it legal, rather than make it less likely that they speed.

    If people are confused then Muni needs to improve signage and awareness. If people are refusing to pay, Muni should INCREASE enforcement, which will eventually reduce citations.

    But I have to say it’s a smart political move on Reiskin’s part. Even though I am sure he knows it won’t have the desired effect, it won’t make that much of a difference either (because Muni will still aim for the same citation rate as on other days).


    Bing Wu

    The mayor wants to get rid of meters and he may well have his way, but Reiskin’s proposal is a reasonable compromise. Sunday metering stays, Ed Lee gets what he wants and enforcement can be restored when we have a better mayor without another debate over Sunday meters. That’s how it sounds to me


    Michael Smith

    I believe that Tom only gets about $50/meeting. Given the length of the meetings and the additional work this is most likely less then the minimum wage.

    But to be clear, I completely disagree with Tom’s position.



    fyi – the Chronicle recommends bicycling to the Devils Slide trail via San Pedro Mountain Road.



    Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.



    … which is good reason to improve access and get more people out there enjoying the trail. If (when?) the next slide destroys the trail then the more people who appreciate it will also push for the funds to repair it.


    Aaron Bialick

    Just so there’s no confusion, this is definitely not an April Fools joke.



    I guess Tom Nolan doesn’t want to jeopardize his high-paying position by pissing off Mayor Lee. I can think of no other reason why he’s going along with this farce.


    Bob Anderson is my uncle

    Can you link to the podcast?


    Aaron Bialick

    Cheryl Brinkman did bring it up, asking Ed when the current rollout of new meters is expected to be completed — he said by the end of the year. No more than that was said, though.


    Nicholas Littlejohn

    The costly bypass was for cars. Now the road that often can slide into the ocean is a bike and scenic trail.


    Nicholas Littlejohn

    I wonder about the air quality in the tunnels, too.


    Nicholas Littlejohn

    There is a Pacifica shuttle and SamTrans will get you to that shuttle from SF or you can start cycling at the zoo.

    Route 17 and and select “Devil’s Slide Ride.”



    Thats true for two reasons. The first is that they are narrower, the second is that they wear less.

    The first isnt true here as far as I can tell, theyve maintained the original roadbed width from highway 1. The second may not be true in this case either, if the primary cause of wear is landslides and subsidence rather than use.

    However, my point was that if this CAN be maintained, as in landslides arent that big of an issue, why spend the money on the tunnels? Why not just keep using this for cars?



    You really can’t be charging over $2/hr (it’s getting up to $6/hr in some places during peak hours) without allowing people to pay with credit cards. Wonder why that wasn’t brought up.

    The SFMTA should really speed up the process of getting those upgraded meters and then I think we’ll be fine. So many times I’ve seen people frustrated with paying – simply because they don’t have a pocket full of quarters.

    Better yet, we should be able to pay with Clipper.



    How can meters have hours of enforcement if they are not enforced? Reduced enforcement may be a viable political strategy. This is just silly.



    Ha, good April Fool’s joke. Right? …. Right?



    (April fools, duh)



    It’s much cheaper to maintain pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure than motor vehicle infrastructure.



    I dont quite know if i see the point of this trail.

    1. If it is still going to be maintained, why did they bypass it in the first place with the very expensive tunnels?

    2. The points made in this article.



    Enjoy the trail while you can. In 1995 a landslide caused a 5 month closure and $3 million to repair. When that happen again the trail may close permanently. The half million annual maintenance budget will not leave anything to fix this kind of major damage.


    Bob Gunderson

    People are complaining about the lack of parking around to enjoy this trail. Why not just turn it into a 1.3 miles of slanted parking on the bike trail?



    I heard a podcast of a recent interview of Mayor Lee at the Commonwealth Club recently and he pretty clearly spelled it out that his position against Sunday meters is solely to get enough voters for a Fall ballot measure for another many million dollars for SF city streets/road repair. His fear is that Sunday metering before this ballot measure would anger enough voters that his ask for another few hundred million for road repair (after the last recent bond measure for this was passed with no noticeable improvement to our horrible roads) would fail. The implication is that once this measure is passed he will go back to supporting Sunday meters. That was my read of his message. Of course what actually should be done is Sunday metering enacted now and SF pay for fixing the roads out of its operating budget. But SF is SF.



    Yes, the worst part is that stretch on HWY 1 that goes from Pacifica to the beginning of the tunnels with cars whizzing by at 50-60 mph. Seems it wouldn’t be too difficult to widen that shoulder or non-shoulder, they really need to do that.


    Benjamin Pease

    SamTrans runs about every hour on weekdays, but every 2 hours on weekends. Pacifica’s free Devils Slide Ride shuttle runs hourly but only on weekends. When I was drawing the official park map, word came down from on high that despite the sidewalks, pedestrians are prohibited in the tunnels.



    Sure a lot of hit and run these days. Don’t they know, if they stopped and said the ped ran in front of them, their off scott free?



    Now with the compromise transit riders will only be in half the danger!


    Kevin J.

    Double parking is bad enough, but religious parking zealotry doesn’t stop there. I like leaving notes for the especially egregious violations:

    “What would you god think of you parking in a crosswalk?”, “Isn’t there a commandment against blocking thy neighbors’ driveway?”



    Thank goodness for the plan revisions! The half-train bulbs are a reasonable compromise between improving transit passenger experience and retaining sufficient parking options for residents and businesses, alike.

    I appreciate the SFMTA’s listening to the concerns of folks who live within the area and provided feedback at the community meetings.



    Devil’s Slide was beautiful, yet stressful to bike before. What a great project.


    Roy Crisman

    Impressively low numbers for fare evasion after all door boarding on Muni in the NextCity article. I’m sure I’ve heard some wingnuts claim this is a magnitude larger.



    If we were worried about demand, I doubt we’d be using so much public space for the minority of people who drive in this city.



    Rampant double parking near churches is a tradition. It could continue (without penalty) whether or not Sunday meters are in effect. So I don’t see a problem!


    Mario Tanev

    Here’s a compromise: repeal Sunday meters near churches (a small part of parking) and instead make the other meters start at 9 am like God intended (since the 12 pm start was done to appease churches). The blocks near churches will get filled up by the free overnight parkers and the church people will ask for metered parking back.

    My expectation is that they will allow for a two tier Sunday parking policy where parking meters don’t apply in some low demand areas to appease some. Or alternatively they will follow the Chicago example and keep parking meters in areas where businesses ask for them.



    As unpopular as this sounds, let DEMAND determine when meters are needed and let the market determine the price. It’s not hard to support Sunday metering when (after vehemently opposing it) many merchants are in agreement that metering helps! Sure, no one likes to pay for meters and everyone loves to immediately find a space, but there is only so much that can be done. (no more subsidized free parking).

    Meanwhile meter hours still end too early as they really should run through the 8pm hour to match commercial hours on weeknights but only with the provision that it is SFpark, with demand based pricing, and extended hours (no more interrupted meals, no more excuses)



    Let’s hope the SFMTA grows a pair and keeps Sunday metering. Mayor Lee is way off-base on this one.


    Bob Gunderson

    Ok I’ll do it! A car for every child and a freeway in every backyard!



    PLEASE understand I say this with sarcasm.



    You say J-walking like that person deserved to die!


    Jamison Wieser

    Gay marriage became a constitutional issue when groups of individuals claiming majority rule decided one group of people they didn’t like should not have the same rights even though it doesn’t effect them at all.

    You put forth the exact same, self-centered, majority rules argument and other road users should not have equal access because they are the minority. At least the minority of people who bitch and whine at removing a single parking space.

    By your own reasoning, you shouldn’t have any problem with closing Market Street to private traffic because cars are in the minority compared to bikes. Majority rule is not a good way to do comprehensive planning for a wide range of road users.



    You really think Chui would have gone against a couple huge donors?! He’s only focused on elections.




    Per the SFMTA’s study here, a majority of residents and merchants didn’t want the bike lane. You really think Chui would have gone against a majority of his constituents?! He’s only focused on elections.





    Banning same-sex marriage is unconstitutional. Not installing separated bike lanes where there is now parking doesn’t quite rise to the same level constitutionally speaking.


    Richard Mlynarik

    Why deal with an irrelevant middleman?
    Deposit your bags of unmarked bills directly with WIllie Brown.



    … and to out Mayor, campaign contributions matter.