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    Bob Gunderson



    Bob Gunderson

    Now you’re making sense Karen!



    So when boat owners feel entitled to free parking, that’s “liberty”, “freedom”, “america”. But when pedestrians and cyclists claim the right to safe use of public infrastructure that’s being entitled little brats of the “me” generation. *le sigh*.



    Once again, city government is caving into a small, vocal, minority rather than doing the right thing. I cannot believe that Parks and Rec, with it’s perennially limited budget is seriously considering this proposal. I mean really, who is going to pay for this? Are the boat owners going to pony up the $450,000-$600,000, or will city tax payers be on the hook for a proposal for the benefit of a handful of stubborn boat owners who can’t change their habits? I doubt that there is anything in their slip agreement that provides a guarantee to parking on the esplanade. If they aren’t happy with this marina because of inadequate parking, they can freely move their boats to a different one. The boat owners really are not in a strong bargaining position here. There are plenty of people who would gladly take their slips if they don’t want them.



    At least you’ve acknowledged that drivers are real people — not like those insufferable hipsters who ride gnats.

    Also please remember: those obstacles placed in the street are not traffic “calming” devices; they’re driver irritation objects!



    Nah, that’s a band-aid fix. We need a much more holistic, comprehensive approach to street design than slapping in some bumps. We can start with the fact that drivers who hit a pedestrian in a crosswalk not only are cited but lose their license for a significant amount of time and must do community service volunteering for a pedestrian or bicycle advocacy group. We can then add bulb-outs, daylight intersections, and make sure speed limits are not only officially 25 mph or less but are actually enforced by the police (instead of busted cyclists for rolling stop signs at empty intersections or ticketing jaywalkers).



    You forgot one important point: think about how horrible both these drivers must feel! Probably ruined their day. Or something. They might even have to think about it again next week a couple times and will be driving really careful as a result. God forbid! And before they totally forget about the incident next month and are back to driving their 2-ton machines irresponsibly, they will constantly have to relive the moment a crazy old pedestrian just “jumped out of nowhere right in front of them” and how they almost got a ticket as a result even though it was that silly old pedestrian’s fault for daring to use the street without being in a 2-ton machine.

    i think we should all try to put ourselves in the place of these poor motorists and understand their point of view here.



    meanwhile the new stop signs for peds and cyclists at the entrance to the St. Francis Yacht club went in quickly despite one being on federal jurisdiction the other being on city jurisdiction. The city seems capable of moving fast to the lick the boots that feed them.

    Elsewhere, someone seems to have to die for the city to make improvements quickly.


    Karen Lynn Allen

    It’s a good thing pedestrians don’t mind getting hit by cars, otherwise drivers might have to spend a whole five seconds at every four way stop to keep from smacking them. Add enough four way stops, and it might take a whole extra two minutes to get where you’re going. Ridiculous!

    First of all, it’s a huge inconvenience to actually stop at a four-way. Rolling through is what everyone does, as long as there are no other cars. To actually check for pedestrians is a total drag because every car has blind spots and they’re not so easy to see around. Hey, it isn’t my fault if some little old lady is lurking right in the middle of mine. Get a clue, old lady, wave at the driver, and if he doesn’t wave back, let that fella go or he’ll run you over!

    Then, if there actually is a pedestrian in the crosswalk, life as we know it is just about over. It takes them freaking forever to get out of the way, especially if they’re old. You might as well pull out your phone and check your texts. Or do your nails. Or grow a beard, so much time will go by. It’s completely unreasonable to expect drivers to wait like this. No wonder drivers jump the gun sometimes. This is why smart pedestrians don’t put a toe out into the street until there are no cars anywhere near. They know their place.

    Only losers walk anyway. Real people–people who pay taxes, people who buy things–drive. And as well all know, time is money, which is why drivers race through the city as fast as they absolutely can while simultaneously performing as many communication and personal hygiene tasks as possible. (It’s not distraction–it’s multi-tasking!) It’s also why the city gives highest priority to cars and lets everyone else visit the ER with broken bones. (Hey, if they have time to walk, they have time to sit in ER rooms!) Look, no one in government cares whether a car brushes the leg of some slowpoke in a crosswalk. But if it takes me an extra minute to get to the gym for my workout, we’ve got a public crisis on our hands.



    Castro and 19th is a 4-way stop. I’m not exactly sure that speed bumps would do anything. The problem is people being impatient and not checking the crosswalk adequately.



    Enough delaying tactics. Given the context of the boat owners’ past obstructionism, we should move ahead with a wide pedestrian/bicycle pathway, and only build a handful of loading bays afterwards when the money is provided for this private use by the marina association itself. Car drivers accessing these loading areas will put other users at risk, but it will be limited to a few minutes each time at a few spots for brief loading and unloading. That is a true compromise that gives the boat owners the convenient loading they say they need, without using pathway space and everybody’s view for parking cars.



    So true.



    Aaron, could you please correct paragraph #3 for the direction 19th Street runs? It is an east-west street, so the driver probably turned right from northbound Castro Street, in order to drive eastbound on 19th when he/she hit the two seniors in the crosswalk.


    Mesozoic Polk

    Allen Cavey is a true hero and warrior, fighting for nearly two decades to safeguard our fundamental right to free parking for our cars on public streets. Yes, it’s a right — check the City Charter, I’m sure it’s there somewhere.



    This is also 1 block from an elementary school.



    We need speed bumps!



    Crosswalks give pedestrians a false sense of security. Drivers turning from one street to another are frequently looking right and left for cars in their path, but not straight ahead at the pedestrian right in front of him or her. Both times I was hit by cars, it was in a crosswalk when I had the right of way.


    Rogue Cyclist

    The link for the Portola Valley story doesn’t work either.


    Aaron Bialick

    Thanks, fixed it.



    Psst! Bad link on the Palo Alto planning story.


    boter op mijn hoofd

    A youtube commentator points out that the license plate is 6TVU786. It’s cleary visible in the video at the 0:20 mark, after the Infiniti first lunges into the crosswalk, and then stops.

    Aaron and Streetsblog — can you please update with what SFPD is doing about this? If they don’t get on it, I’ll file a report.



    It’s not a story, it’s an order.



    I don’t think that feature comes with the S-3. Yet.



    He told me that the car will automatically stop if the airbags deploy.



    Hmmm, civilized. #Ferguson, #Baltimore, #Florida…



    Will the ignition freeze if it detects drugs/alcohol/rage?



    That’s exactly what we don’t need. This is a classic issue of avoiding the root cause. We can start solving this problem tomorrow by redesigning our cities for pedestrians and cyclists instead of cars and actually punishing motorists (including loss of drivers license) who still cause harm because of dangerous behavior. Or, we can try to come up with some new-fangled, ridiculous technology that just always drivers to pay attention even less ….



    Agreed. This was arguably more egregious, so slapping some shackles on homegirl is more easily understood. If she had a license and wasn’t running into other parked vehicles (damn, gurl!), then I feel like it would’ve been deemed an ‘accident’ and the typical story car vs. bike would have unfolded.



    Alerts him? If the car can alert him, the car can hit the brakes.



    Cool story bro



    Or, we could require that people not drive like idiots. Perhaps we could implement some sort of test, one that is not trivially easy to pass?



    Scary being a pedestrian these days, honestly.



    Please reduce your sanctimony levels. It’s offensive to lecture others about how they should think or feel. Thank you.



    I was riding in my friend’s new BMW S-3 SUV. He pointed out a number of safety features–one feature alerts him when there is a pedestrian in the crosswalk or a nearby obstruction, like a light pole. These don’t come standard; they are options that bumped up the cost of the vehicle to $75K from a sticker price of $50K. Maybe it’s time that these features be required, like seat belts.


    Mesozoic Polk

    At least Oakland is thinking clearly! Cars may have free reign over 99.7% of street space, but we can always use more.



    Don’t worry, Jack London Square in Oakland has still decided to kick off the Bike Month festivities this Saturday, May 2nd, with their Car-topia (not kidding) event filling the usually pedestrian-oriented plaza:


    Amanda Clark

    In the past I’d either cut through Lakehaven, or just ride as fast as possible to minimize the amount of time spent on Tasman (I used to live at Fair Oaks and Tasman).


    Mesozoic Polk

    Bay Area Bike Month? How on earth did the all-powerful Bicycle Lobby manage to get 1/12 of the whole year devoted to a purely recreational non-transportation activity indulged in by at most 1/120 of the population?



    Also, not from the Bay Area, but I found this WashCycle blog post about bike share system and equity to be very relevant to how the Bay Area Bike Share expansion throughout SF, Oakland, and Berkeley could be rolled out:





    I don’t like to make excuses for poor road design – but I take Persian.


    Amanda Clark

    Tasman still needs a shoulder (at the very least) going *west* from Lawrence to Fair Oaks. That’s a scary bike ride or walk.


    Bike Pretty

    At this point Vehicular Cycling has been thoroughly debunked. We’ve achieved all we can by asking people to take the lane. Now it’s time to address the infrastructure.



    The California legislature passed a number of hit-run penalty increases and protections last year, but Gov Brown decided to veto them all and the legislature didn’t bother to challenge him (election year?). Unfortunate.



    These busts are misguided and terrible waste of time. I used to live in this area. Trying to get to Daly City BART from almost every side is difficult as a pedestrian and the wait times for the beg buttons are long.

    John Daly Blvd and De Long St (the feeder street into the BART station) are very overbuilt and not pedestrian or bike friendly.



    Hit and miss. Kifer is a total crapshow until you cross Lawrence and hit the Sunnyvale border and the bike lane starts.

    On the other hand the San Tomas Creek trail is a marvel. And when it ends there is a posh green carpet bike lane for additional miles, some of it very well buffered and not in a door zone.

    Then you have roads like Lawrence 8(


    Upright Biker

    Throw the book at him.



    I’d say the (continued?) physical, etc. trauma suffered by the pedestrian mostly renders as trivial the damage done to the oncoming car. But you mention it as “everything else related to this incident.” Is your empathy flat out broken or just a little buggy today?


    Greg Costikyan

    I’ve commuted by bike in Santa Clara — not on Tasman, though. There are some marked “bike lanes” — actually shoulders of arterial roads — but they involve crossing entrances to on-ramps onto 101, and that’s always a scary thing to navigate. One of the least bike-friendly of the Peninsula cities.


    Golden Gate Shark

    In many states, driving privileges can be suspended for life if the driver is a habitual DUI offender, or commits an irresponsible act that rises to a heinous, aggravated level.