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  1.  

    Sean Rea

    Believe it or not city government is multi-threaded.

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    bassguitarhero

    so it’s ok when bicyclists break the law but not cars. got it. i forget that bicyclists are special unique snowflakes to be treated like princesses

  3.  

    hailfromsf

    Are you actually trying to argue that SFPD would not ticket these people if they witnessed that?

  4.  

    bassguitarhero

    Likely blowing through the crosswalk without stopping or looking. It’s ok to pass the cars on the left – but I walk this exact intersection every morning and bicyclists who stop at that crosswalk are in the extreme minority.

  5.  

    dat

    …you forgot to include the phrase “blowing stop signs”, minus one point.

  6.  

    RinSF

    For what violation were the cyclists cited?

  7.  

    hailfromsf

    Then they should ticket for almost hitting pedestrians, not for passing on the left.

  8.  

    Sarah M

    I want them to make the city bicycle friendly, but right NOW I want them to find a way to stop people from using our streets as a public restroom.

  9.  

    bassguitarhero

    and yet you will be the first up there crying crocodile tears about how cars are nearly hitting bicyclists

  10.  

    jd_x

    “Follow the law like everyone else”

    Riiiiigggght: only bicyclists don’t follow the law. Forgot about that; thanks for clarifying. That’s why ~1000 pedestrians are injured or killed in this city every year, because all those motorists are following the laws.

    And of course – of course!!! – the punishment for a bicyclists breaking a law when their “vehicle” weighs 20 lbs and has no motor should be *exactly* the same as that for a motorist driving a vehicle that weighs 2 tons and has 200 hp of power. And it’s not like there are statistics that prove that the orders of magnitude difference in danger posed by motorists compared to bicyclists doesn’t reflect what our intuition tells us about the dangers posed by these two modes of transportation.

    But hey, when you’re addicted to something like a car, you’re unable to see your own bias or think rationally. So I do get why you think “everyone else” except bicyclists follows the law.

  11.  

    hailfromsf

    What exactly were you hoping to read? All about how the cyclists deserved it, thanking the SFPD for cracking down on scofflaws?

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    dat

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    jd_x

    Unbelievable. And how many of those a**holes driving 3-ton vehicles (who are actually going to kill somebody, as opposed to the bicyclists) are busted by the cops? I’m guessing pretty much none … and it isn’t helping that SFPD wastes their time harassing cyclists who pose orders of magnitude less danger.

  14.  

    bassguitarhero

    boohoo you get tickets for breaking the law :(

    stop bombing the crosswalk and maybe there will be fewer tickets. walk your bike through the crosswalk like the law says. stop riding on the sidewalk down that stretch because you don’t feel like dealing with cars.

    it’s SUPER easy to avoid a bicycling ticket. but that would require thinking about others and not just being mad you can’t get what you want, everybody else be damned

  15.  

    bassguitarhero

    It’s dangerous enough for pedestrians with automobile traffic but when you mix in bicyclists blowing through the crosswalk it gets even worse. That’s why the SFPD is involved likely.

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    bassguitarhero

    Probably that bicyclists are blowing through the crosswalk without stopping or looking to the right for pedestrians. I use that crosswalk every morning to cross Page and I have to stop and wait for bicyclists to finish blowing through the crosswalk before I can try to cross.

  17.  

    bassguitarhero

    Probably that bicyclists never look to the right while blowing through the crosswalk and into the stop-sign protected part of the street.

  18.  

    bassguitarhero

    Bicyclists who pass cars on the left don’t look to the right for pedestrians and almost hit people who are actually walking through the crosswalk. That’s why SFPD is spending resources on it.

  19.  

    bassguitarhero

    Gosh, your commute time! Or you could go down a different street but please make sure your pearls are fully clutched!

  20.  

    bassguitarhero

    GOOD. This is EXACTLY what the SFPD needs to be doing. I walk through this intersection every morning and i am ROUTINELY almost hit by bicyclists riding to the left of cars and they NEVER look to the right for pedestrians. Instead they roll right through the crosswalk, looking to the left for oncoming traffic, and almost hit me every morning I cross that exact crosswalk.

  21.  

    spencerfleury

    You were Ernstigated.

  22.  

    murphstahoe

    You don’t even hang out here.

  23.  

    spencerfleury

    Then I guess it should apply to pedestrians too. After all, fair is fair and the laws should apply to everyone equally, right?

  24.  

    murphstahoe

    That cyclist was riding to Caltrain to catch his train to Mountain View – BTW

  25.  

    murphstahoe

    “follow the law like everyone else” – I refer you to the videos posted below

  26.  

    Volker Neumann

    We’ll see how the Wiggle Stop-In https://www.facebook.com/events/1619664038274431/ goes over and then maybe it’s time to mobilize to page street in the morning.

  27.  

    Hunter

    Anyone who feels strongly about these issues of enforcement should send an email to Mayor Lee, your Supervisors, the SFPD in your district, and even Mohammed Nuru at the Department of Public Works to remind them all that SF residents want our streets improved and safety ensured NOW rather than in the distant future. Many street projects have been planned and delayed for years, despite our huge budget surplus right now. If you want to make change, you need to yell at the right people:

    Mayor Lee: MayorEdwinLee@sfgov.org
    Board of Supervisor email addresses: http://www.sfbos.org/index.aspx?page=1616
    SFPD Station emails: http://sf-police.org/index.aspx?page=796
    Mohammed Nuru: Mohammed.Nuru@sfdpw.org

  28.  

    Louie Louie

    Oh yeah, blame the suburbs for idiotic behavior in San Francisco. Are you a Fox News reporter?

  29.  

    FacheuxIsMyHoe15Dollars

    I mistakenly came here linked from another website for informed unbiased reporting. Whoops.

  30.  

    NoeValleyJim

    Can anyone tell me what section of the Vehicle Code cyclists are being cited for violating?

  31.  

    KWillets

    I’ve seen motorists do that same kind of turn onto Octavia, on a red light.

  32.  

    MarineJA

    Ridiculous. I’ve been safely gong down Page St. [left of the queued cars] every weekday morning [from 0630 to 0900] for the past [almost] 3 years and in all that time I might have seen, at most, 20 cars going up Page at the same time I was going down.

    I’d suggest a “bicycling critical mass” scenario to prove the idiocy of ticketing the bicyclists: during the peak morning rush, each and every bicyclist should line up, one after the other on Page St. [no straddling, one neat line, with about 3 ft. between each bike or car], moving only with the queue of cars and bikes when it is your turn [keeping in mind, one bike per spot]. With the number of bicyclist going through during peak rush, this will probably back traffic all the way to Divisadero.

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    joeykotfica

    As a cyclist, I’ve started using Grove as an alternative… on Page on the east side of Fillmore street, I cut over to Grove – it goes straight through to Market, and not only misses the line of traffic on Page, but also that double-red-light intersection. Just a suggestion for my fellow cyclists to give it a try!

  34.  

    Prinzrob

    Our infrastructure (for good reason) also puts people on foot in conflict more with people on bikes than those in cars, as bike riders are typically toward the far right side of the road, in the space pedestrians enter as they step into the street. This is of course safer than having pedestrians step immediately into the car space, but it does give bike riders much less opportunity to react which might account for some of those “close calls” we hear about.

    Curbside cycletracks or parking-protected bikeways help to improve this situation by increasing the visibility between the sidewalk and the bike space, as opposed to now when rows of parked cars often impede sight lines. Open streets events, multi-use paths, and even bike lanes that do double duty as areas where pedestrians access their drivers side car doors, all prove that people on bikes and on foot can mingle just fine with few to no conflicts, so my sense is that most concerns are overstated.

    From my perspective it also seems that pedestrians have been trained to fear cars but not bikes, which I think is also appropriate but can lead to more bike/ped conflicts. Some people are not wary about stepping into the street when a person on a bike is approaching, whereas I’ve seen many pedestrians cede their right of way to an approaching car driver, out of a substantiated fear that the driver won’t yield.

  35.  

    gneiss

    The easiest, most cost effective solution would be to simply ban right turns from from Page onto Octavia. Unfortunately, because this would have an impact on the street grid LOS for car drivers, the city can’t do this without conducting a traffic study that would most likely trigger the need to prepare an EIR. Not to mention all the community meetings, traffic engineering, and everything else that goes into any change SFMTA would make.

    Once again, we see how the city is unwilling to take action which would have an impact on making the environment better for modes other than car traffic. Let’s remember, that for every person who rides down this block there are three or four others who see how bad the conditions are and decide to drive a Hyundai instead.

  36.  

    SF Guest

    It’s better to walk it off.

  37.  

    peternatural

    Page sounds like a clusterfuck. Fulton and Grove it is.

  38.  

    Mother

    You have the option of getting off your bike and walking on this street. You will always be a minority. Follow the law like everyone else.

  39.  

    Andy Chow

    TNC companies doesn’t own their own cars, but rather rely on private autos that many people have, with drivers burdening the risks and cost. If the expectation is that these companies would own their cars, these companies probably wouldn’t grow as fast.

    I don’t think that most yacht and boat owners would want to become a common carrier. The demand for safety (regarding equipment, inspection) and proper insurance would be far higher.

    The challenge is the size of the Bay. The SF/San Pablo bays are larger than the bays in New York or Boston. Unless there’s a strong tourist demand, or where there’s no highway connection, most routes are too long to use regular monohull ferries. Large and fast catamaran ferries are more costly to operate.

  40.  

    SFnative74

    Given that 99% of the drivers on Page there are turning right onto Octavia, it makes perfect sense to ticket cyclists passing on the left.

  41.  

    GarySFBCN

    It is sad that San Francisco has become such a nightmare. I would expect this type of idiotic enforcement in an upscale suburban community, but not here.

    Newcomers from those upscale suburban communities want order in SF and it is clear who city hall supports on this: They want to make life easier for those commuting to Mountain View and other parts south of the city. Why should people in waiting cars have to see icky bicyclists passing them by?

    Oops, I have to go. I have to call the police to report a car with a burned-out taillight.

  42.  

    Volker Neumann

    So hold on, what side of the street am i supposed to be on again? I always forget. Silly me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjOMLD3CcA

  43.  

    Volker Neumann

    Ahh Page Street! I know thee well.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exDOScOhHoE

  44.  

    John Hamilton

    This was my morning commute from the Haight to BART for years, and I *always* rode to the left of cars stacked up waiting to get on the freeway. I’d have added 10 minutes to my morning commute––and I would have risked by life each day––if I’d waited with the automobile traffic. It’s outrageous to ticket cyclists on Page in this way!

  45.  

    Suvidha Bisht

    Lovely place to drive peacefully, must visit place in San Francisco. http://www.allwonders.com/san-francisco/attractions/lombard-street

  46.  

    the_greasybear

    This appears to be SFPD’s new goal: reduce bicycle trips in San Francisco.

  47.  

    KWillets

    There was gunfire at the $42 million HUD Hayes Valley Housing Development at Haight and Buchanan Friday, and it took 5 minutes for the police to show up. I gave a description of a carload of people I had seen fleeing in a car North on Webster, but 5 minutes isn’t going to catch that.

    That is all.

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    mikesonn

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    Mountain Viewer

    Not defending ticketing as the best use of police time nor the best way to educate on safety but It’s not clear the ticketed cyclist did “duck”. And if he/she was caught on the left of the double yellow, that would seem to be a clear infraction. It would also be a pretty dangerous move as cars/trucks/buses can turn right on Page at any time (and I would venture the reason the double yellow is there -near the intersection- in the first place).

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    billdav

    I see no center line on that road so I’m having a hard time imagining what the CVC violation is.

    I don’t see how it could be CVC 21650:

    21650. Upon all highways, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:
    (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing that movement.

    Since they are passing, paragraph (a) allows them to leave the right half.

    It can’t be CVC 21202 either, because again, paragraph (a)(1) makes an exception for passing.

    It can’t be CVC 21654, because by definition, they are not going slower than the normal speed of traffic since the normal speed of traffic at that time is stop-and-go.

    It can’t be CVC 21752, because there are no visibility issues.

    Does anyone know what the code violation was?