Today’s Headlines

  • Woman, 78, Hospitalized by Driver at Sunset and Wawona in the Outer Sunset (SF Appeal)
  • More Than 12,000 SF Students Expected to Walk and Roll to School Wednesday (SF Examiner)
  • SFMTA Posts Survey on Proposed Greening, Traffic Calming Improvements on the Wiggle
  • We Can Dream: SF Weekly Spots Possible Parking Ticket on Cop Cruiser, SFPD: No Way; Probably Fake
  • BART Unions Don’t Issue 72-Hour Strike Notice  (SFGateABC); Chron: Unions Need to Face Reality
  • BART Lets Riders Test New Seats for Future Trains This Week (NBC)
  • UC Berkeley‘s “Shared-Use Mobility Summit” to Look into the Future of Car-Share, Bike-Share
  • Friends of Caltrain to Host Forum on Potential Issues of Level Boarding, Sharing Platforms With HSR
  • Marinwood Drivers Continue to Ignore New Ban on Freeway Cut-Thrus (People Behaving Badly)
  • CHP to Let Loved Ones Mourn Traffic Victims on Old Span of Bay Bridge (SFGate)
  • Shama Ayyad, 66, Killed by Driver in San Mateo Crosswalk (Mercury News)
  • Stanford Student Zachary Katz Arrested for DUI Crash on 101 That Killed One, Hospitalized Two (SM)

More headlines at Streetsblog Capitol Hill

  • mikesonn

    San Mateo PD’s response to 18 year old driving an SUV killing a pedestrian: list of pedestrian tips to safer travel. This blaming-the-victim crap has to stop.

    http://local.nixle.com/alert/5073708/

  • Bob

    Mike, that wasn’t SMPD’s response at all. The program to educate pedestrians happened BEFORE this accident and so clearly isn’t a response to it.

    From the two accounts that are public, there is no indication yet as to why this accident happened, so it’s a little early to go throwing blame around.

  • mikesonn
  • And no evidence that the driver “intentionally broke the law.” What’s that supposed to mean? That if it’s an ‘accident’ it’s okay to run over pedestrians in the crosswalk?

  • Yep, too early to go throwing blame around, but that didn’t stop San Mateo PD from blaming the victim anyway.

  • Bob

    [This comment is from a banned user with a fake name]
    Hmm, so should SMPD have immediately cancelled the ongoing series of classes on pedestrian safety? Just so nobody might infer that by not doing, they are somehow blaming the pedestrian here?

    Correlation is not causation. Especially when it precedes it!

    I suspect most people might think that pedestrian safety is a good thing to teach.

  • mikesonn

    That seems to be the status quo for PD’s. The driver didn’t *mean* to kill the pedestrian so it must be an *accident* which could never be prevented except that the pedestrian needs to know to look both ways.

  • Andy Chow

    A reasonable level of reminders and educations for pedestrians isn’t blaming the victim, especially we don’t know who is at fault here.
    I don’t think we should portray a “because I am here so therefore I have the right of way” attitude. There are enough bad and mediocre drivers out there and that pedestrians need to expect them. I don’t think it is right to put people at unnecessary risk by ignoring the need of safety education just to make a political statement.

  • The Wiggle survey shows that you don’t need Flash to do everything wrong with an interactive experience.

  • trimsits

    “Rape Early Sat. Morn. – High-Priority Modest Attire Campaign Continues”

  • Note the timing and explicit reference to the crosswalk fatality, and no tweets from @SanMateoPD reminding drivers to obey the law – i.e. it’s classic victim blaming. Classes in pedestrian safety are often used to reinforce the idea that public spaces are for cars only.

  • I think the question is about whether it’s the right place to focus the ‘good’ energy. Do we teach cyclists/drivers in classes on how to deal with potholes, or do we work to fix the potholes?
    Is pedestrian safety really something we need a class to teach anyone over the age of 8?
    How many safety classes do I need to be able to dodge a car which has driven onto a sidewalk with no ramp?

  • Andy Chow

    Airline passengers are shown a demonstration and/or video of aircraft safety on every single flight. Of course airline passengers collectively couldn’t be at fault if some aircraft emergency occurs. So are we blaming the victim by showing them a video?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think we should portray a “because I am here so therefore I have the right of way” attitude.

    That’s exactly the attitude we are reinforcing for every driver. I am here, I have the right of way, if you get in my way, you die, and I suffer no consequences, so get off the road.

  • Andy Chow

    I don’t disagree with that but what does it have to do with pedestrian education?

  • 94103er

    Nice try with the analogy, but wrong. You’re trying to equate walking from one place to the next in the environment in which we live versus riding in a vehicle on our own accord. Not even close to the same situation.

  • 94103er

    This nugget in particular: “Pedestrians do not automatically have the right of way, even when there is a crosswalk ”

    WTF???

  • Anonymous

    What that has to do with is that there is no push of any sort to do DRIVER education. Which is fine with you, of course…

  • Though it’s scary that the perp pulled out a gun multiple times and no one noticed http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Absorbed-device-users-oblivious-to-danger-4876709.php it’s also entertaining that Police Chief Greg Suhr says the following:
    “Oftentimes when you interview people who get their phones stolen, when
    you ask them to describe where the person came from, what he was
    wearing, they have no idea,” said San Francisco Police Chief Greg Suhr. “It’s not uncommon to read in a police report that a person ‘came out of nowhere’ or ‘I didn’t see where he came from.’ ”
    I hope he develops the same sense of consternation for drivers who say the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    And airline pilots are given constant training to avoid the situations that result in injury and death. And on an airplane they are equally vulnerable as their passengers. Not so for people walking vs in vehicles.

  • Anonymous

    Bob, educating people who brave the mean streets where cars blow by at 40+ mph is not bad. But where were the reminders of the things DRIVERS can do to reduce the likelihood that they will run into people crossing the street? That’s just as important when it comes to pedestrian safety.

  • Andy Chow

    You try to make it very different situation but it isn’t very different. Flying today is a very common activity except the very poor. Also many people have flown before but that demonstration is still shown before every flight.

    Also, even some level of education is very helpful in our daily lives, like food/medicine safety (we could always blame the manufacturer), fall prevention (which is a major cause of disability right at their very home), fire safety, heart attack and stroke response. For some of you, these things may probably seem so unnecessary and so blaming the seniors.

  • mikesonn
  • Andy Chow

    I doubt that violent rapists would necessarily care or make decisions based on how the woman dress, so such campaign would be ineffective and divert attention away from education that would be useful. But information about not consuming too much alcohol or use drugs (which do impair the potential victim and her ability to make decisions) could be more helpful.

  • Andy Chow

    I am in favor of more and better driver education.

  • OK, the formatting of the page is messed up and confusing, but that line is true, the open bullet under it clarifies with CVC reference:

    • Pedestrians do not automatically have the right of way, even when there is a crosswalk.
    o Pedestrians must give cars enough time to stop before entering the street. (VC21950(b))

    So, no, you don’t have right-of-way no matter what. If you’re sprinting down the sidewalk and run across the crosswalk without letting the cars have time to react, you don’t have RoW.

    Nor should anyone over the age of 8 need a class to tell them this.

  • Anonymous

    “I am in favor of more and better driver education.” – Andy Chow

    QFT

  • Tim

    What? Drivers have to take lessons, pass a test, register vehicles, get and maintain insurance, and can have their license taken away if they fail to meet the standard.

    None of that is true for pedestrians, nor cyclists for that matter. If you are seeking to compare the level of skill, training and testing of road users, it is most stringent for drivers.

    Now, the fact that this accident occurred on a crosswalk is prima facie evidence that the vehicle is more likely to be at fault. But is remains at least possible that a pedestrian might have walked right out in front of a vehicle, and that is precisely what some here suggested in the analogous Bucchere “accident”.