Today’s Headlines

  • Central Subway Deal With Pagoda Palace Still Up in the Air; Save Muni Sues Again (SF Exam, SFGate)
  • Central Subway Consultants’ Expense Reports Include Golf Tournaments, Wedding Cake (SFGate)
  • Beyond ChronSFBC: Keep “Better Market Street” on Course, Build Bikeway on Market (CBS)
  • SFCTA Refining Center Options for Geary BRT; CAC Member Resigns, Frustrated With Delays (RR)
  • SF Ranks for Second-Worst Traffic Congestion Again In TTI’s Faulty Analysis (SF Exam, CBS 5)
  • Stockton Street Ban on Car Parking Still Going Well for Chinatown Businesses (SFGate)
  • MTC Awards Valley Transit Authority Grant to Study Low-Income Fare Program (CBS 5)
  • Pittsburg Hit-and-Run Driver Arrested for Running Over Woman and Two Children (KRON, KTVU)
  • Greater Marin: SMART Still Has Chance to Build Larkspur Landing Station
  • Marin Transpo Officials to Form Review Committee for Greenbrae Freeway Interchange Project (MIJ)
  • Caltrain and CAHSRA Forming New Agreement Around Blended Track System (SM Daily)

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  • mikesonn

    Hmm, Central Subway is running into more logistical issues and Stockton St in Chinatown proves again it doesn’t need parking…

    Transit Only Stockton NOW!

  • Mario Tanev

    As others, I also question the merits of Central Subway and prefer a transit-only Stockton (with or without the subway). But if the subway is getting built, it should go as far as possible to make it worthwhile. Thus I don’t understand why Save Muni is trying to undermine the potential future North Beach station.

  • mikesonn

    SaveMuni doesn’t want the CS, period.

    Also, CS isn’t coming for 7-10 years and Stockton needs relief NOW. Furthermore, once the CS is built in 2020+, it won’t serve north of Washington so we’ll still need transit relief for most of Chinatown and all points north. Transit only Stockton will have to happen, we are just wasting time by not implementing it now.

  • mikesonn

    SaveMuni doesn’t want the CS, period.

    Also, CS isn’t coming for 7-10 years and Stockton needs relief NOW. Furthermore, once the CS is built in 2020+, it won’t serve north of Washington so we’ll still need transit relief for most of Chinatown and all points north. Transit only Stockton will have to happen, we are just wasting time by not implementing it now.

  • Believe it or not, The End of the Age of Oil Has Arrived.

    http://karenlynnallen.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-end-of-age-of-oil-has-arrived.html
     

  • Mario Tanev

    I agree transit-only Stockton should happen now. But if Central Subway also happens, why is it better to end it in Chinatown?

  • mikesonn

    Mario, it is ending in Chinatown because that is the EIR. We haven’t even started the 30 year conversation to extend past Washington Street.

    If you are confused as to why SaveMuni is fighting against a North Beach station (which is in no way even an option in the next 30 years, sorry I have to keep repeating that but there is a huge amount of misinformation out there), then look no further than the upzoning in SoMa along 4th. SaveMuni is convinced that a North Beach CS station will mean massive upzoning in North Beach (many are convinced that massive upzoning is already in the works for Chinatown).

    As for construction ending in Chinatown and not continuing to bore to North Beach and extending the tunnel, some in North Beach feel that Chinatown should have all the construction since they are getting all the station. The Columbus extraction was roundly reject by the community because of the massive impacts with ZERO benefits. The Pagoda option was 1/2 (or slightly more) accepted because it somewhat limited the harsh impacts of extraction while still maintaining the tunnel extension for **possible** Central Subway extension to North Beach and beyond in 30+ years. Now it is coming to light that the Pagoda sits on an underground stream system that runs from Russian Hill to the bay and any digging may impact surrounding buildings.

    SaveMuni thinks that Muni should just have the boring machines take a hard right/left and bury them somewhere along the line or just bring them up in Chinatown.

    My personal feelings are much more nuanced and don’t line up with SaveMuni’s but I hope this clears up some of the confusion.

    At the end of the day, the Central Subway stops at Washington/Stockton and won’t help transit in northern Chinatown or any points north/west on the 30/45/8x routes (all of which will most likely see reduced bus service to pay for service on CS).

  • voltairesmistress

    “Perhaps
    rather than the end of the age of oil, we should say this is the century of
    reinventing our relationship with energy.”

    Your words on your blog, Karen, not mine.  Why do you continue to use ominous language of doom when your own, excellent research and writing on your blog show how rapidly (albeit reluctantly and a generation later than we ought) we humans are adapting to new energy technologies?

  • Abe

    What words of doom? “The end of the age of oil” sounds like a cause for celebration to me. Akin to “the end of the Cold War” or “the end of the dark ages.”

  • The Facts

    What I don’t like is why didn’t they bring this up earlier? It has always been planned to remove the tunneling machine in this way, but now they bring it up? I see this as some sabotage move to piss off Central Subway supporters again.

    The future should be brought into the conversation though. It will be immensely cheaper to just finish all the tunneling now than to go through this all over again in the future. All this talk that these anti-car people bring about thinking of the future generations is hypocritical when I read the short-term arguments against this.

    It’s stupid that we have a perfectly good tunneling machine that will be destroyed at the end because some people didn’t bring this up earlier. It’s a complete waste of millions to destroy a perfectly good tunneling machine that can be used on future tunnels like the sorely needed Geary subway tunnel. (And don’t counter with the “Well, the Central Subway is a waste” argument again please. It’s tiring and not going to stop the project.)

  • Gneiss

    The Facts: You might not know this, but leaving the difficult to remove parts of TBM’s in their tunnels is a standard practice in the industry.  I worked in the tunnel which was bored from Deer Island out 9.5 miles into Massachusetts Bay and the TBM used for that project was buried in concrete after the work was finished.  There’s no reason to spend millions to get it out of the ground when it can be entombed in concrete instead.

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