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  1.  

    Ziggy Tomcich

    The only way we’re going to get a protected bikeway along Polk Street is to put the issue on a voter referendum this fall. Most people in the city would rather have a safe separated bikeway on Polk street than the mess that’s there right now, or the 1/2ass crap the SFMTA is proposing.

  2.  

    BK

  3.  

    M.

    That would explain Ed Lee’s impaired vision.

  4.  

    M.

    Please see reply to Golden State Shark and D. Wong above.

  5.  

    M.

    Please see reply to Golden State Shark above, D. Wong

  6.  

    M.

    Beautifully documented, thank you, AB.

  7.  

    M.

    So, you’re reconsidering your move to Mars, where aimless roving is the main pastime, Mr. Gunderson?

  8.  

    M.

    Suggest you write and visit them. Until businesses know where their clients really stand, they’ll continue to imagine the past. And tell Ed Lee.

  9.  

    jd_x

    If you want to see the real potential of this idea, check out Istiklal Ave
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0stiklal_Avenue
    in the Beyoglu district of Istanbul, one of the most incredible car-free (actually, car-lite, but the streets are so utterly dominated by people that the cars are essentially negligible) areas in the world:
    http://youtu.be/jWSisd9dP-A?t=13s

    (Ignore the first 10 seconds or so). This kind of scene literally goes on for a mile including all nearby cross streets and lasts until late into the night. This (in fact, most of Istanbul) is one of the most incredible places in the world to experience the full potential of streets when they are given back to people instead of cars.

  10.  

    jd_x

    Agreed. Whenever I see SFPD unnecessarily aggressively telling people to get off Valencia street at the end of Sunday Streets, I always think, why are they re-opening it to traffic? Why not just let the event go into the night? It’s the perfect opportunity.

  11.  

    Golden Gate Shark

    Dr. Hiura I have patronized you many times before but never again..

  12.  

    M.

    Most don’t drive to their entertainment at night. See comment above. But metering fairly is always a good idea.

  13.  

    M.

    Help us get it? Not much to do; a lot of places we talked to are with it we just lack the bandwidth to coordinate them with the City.

  14.  

    M.

    Tell us more, hp2ena.

  15.  

    Bob Gunderson

    “I can’t have a particular position on it ” *whew* “Vision Zero” needs vision and fortunately we don’t have that here in SF, where mayors don’t have to be mayors.

  16.  

    M.

    Or it’s framed me – for two years ;-) The leadership fail is so pathetic, eh? Higher hopes for Julie C., though.

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    mx

    Some do, some don’t. If BART were to seriously consider such a proposal, it would have to do extensive study of its riders to figure out who it would impact. I believe this kind of study would generally be required under FTA civil rights rules before adjusting fares anyway.

    The point is that peak hour pricing for transit does the biggest harm for workers with unflexible hours and lower incomes. It also hurts those who want/need to get home to their families; shifting your commute two hours might mean getting home after your kids are already asleep or too late to pickup from daycare.

  18.  

    Dexter Wong

    I don’t believe it, Dr. Hiura was my optometrist for years, and now he sides with the auto bunch! He’ll never fill another prescription for me!

  19.  

    Michael Smith

    Coincidentally, I went to Dr Hiura a year ago. Seems that he knows as little about optometry as he does about traffic engineering. He screwed up the procedures and gave me what turned out to be really bad advice. Fortunately I then went to a different optometrist who straightened everything out.

    And, as with many Polk Street patrons, I didn’t drive there. I took Muni.

  20.  

    murphstahoe

    The quotes in this article are just a giant word soup – and you framed them perfectly. Kudos

  21.  

    murphstahoe

    Wouldn’t the workers you describe primarily ride BART off peak – and thus be beneficiaries of such a pricing schedule?

  22.  

    Upright Biker

    I think you’ve framed it perfectly!

  23.  

    BK

    More like #zerovision

  24.  

    M.

    Lost opportunity, lost and shattered lives, a pervasive sense of fear about traveling our streets without the armor of a muti-ton cage; the pathology and deaths associated with fouled air and inactivity. Then there are the $ costs all that represents. Not a good look, Mayor Lee. What happened to #VisionZero SF?

  25.  

    Gary Fisher

    OUT! This guy can not get away with this, are we this stupid?

  26.  

    David

    I was a patient of Dr Hiura for 15 years. No more.

  27.  

    Upright Biker

    They’re all _going_ to be important? According to the policies coming out of City Hall for most of the last century, it seems that only cars and parking are “important.” The rest of us people who walk and bicycle are simply jaywalking and pedaling in the way of progress.

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    Upright Biker

    An Optometrist who is suddenly an expert in traffic engineering?

    I have a sinking feeling we’re all going to learn once again that hindsight is 20/20, and that all this caving to merchants’ unfounded fears will result in an entire generation of lost opportunity to make our streets safer and more lively.

  29.  

    hp2ena

    Not true. Amy Farah Weiss may be running against him. Look up YIMBY/WEISS for mayor.

  30.  

    BBnet3000

    A balanced streets allows anyone to cycle on it. Lee’s false idea of balance is to prop up the status quo where a massively disproportionate area of the public realm is given over to storing a few people’s cars.

    Its incredible that he’s running unopposed.

  31.  

    SF_Abe

    Ack! ya beat me to it!

  32.  

    SF_Abe

    “We shouldn’t promote … pedestrian safety over cars and parking.”
    –Mayor Edwin Lee

    #visionzero

  33.  

    bobster855

    “We shouldn’t promote bicycle safety over pedestrian safety over cars and parking. I think they’re all going to be important.”

    Well, there you have it. Yes, Mr. Mayor, you should be promoting bicycle and pedestrian safety over cars and parking. That’s the whole idea behind the redesign of Polk, isn’t it?

  34.  

    guest

    doesn’t seem like a jerk to me–asked for them not to play loud beepers all night long when there are quieter options available. seemed to ask nicely before escalating.

  35.  

    TN

    I favor congestion pricing for motor vehicle traffic. We want to get cars off the road and the people onto public transportation.

    But when we start peak hour pricing for public transit as well, it works against the first goal and puts the low wage earner at an even bigger disadvantage. Every place I’ve ever worked, the lower the pay, the less flexibility the worker had in hours. Never mind that some of these low wage workers have very unpredictable hours. Or very awful hours.

    Generally the discussions on Streetblog and similar groups seem to me be very biased towards the white collar, professional 9 to 5 workers.There is little sympathy for the transportation needs of those who work shifts (swing, night, weekend) or for those people who’s works hours constantly change like retail and food service workers.

  36.  

    p_chazz

    This is Bud Offermann.

    Mr. Offermann has 30 years experience as an IAQ researcher, sick building investigator, mitigation planner, healthy building design consultant, expert witness, technical author, and workshop instructor. He is president of Indoor Environmental Engineering, a San Francisco based IAQ consulting firm.
    As president of Indoor Environmental Engineering, Mr. Offermann directs an interdisciplinary team of environmental scientists, chemists, and mechanical engineers in indoor air quality building investigations and healthy building design projects. Under Mr. Offermann’s supervision IEE has developed both pro-active and reactive IAQ measurement methods and diagnostic protocols. He has been a recipient of State and Federal research grants regarding building air quality and ventilation field studies (e.g. EPA BASE study of IAQ in office buildings and schools), tracer gas techniques,in situ contaminant emission rate measurements, and the development of indoor air quality measurement instrumentation.

    http://www.iee-sf.com/company-profile/our-people.html

  37.  

    Prinzrob

    But then again, spreading out the commuter rush could help BART run more efficient trains, which in turn would cut costs and enable them to keep fares lower for everyone.

  38.  

    murphstahoe

    You forgot “under-trained” – at the very least when it comes to selling bikes

  39.  

    joechoj

    @facebook-100001895311343:disqus – Even assuming those stats are right, they miss the point. Cyclist safety isn’t ensured by helmets; it’s ensured by safe infrastructure.

    An analogy: If people are constantly getting their fingers cut by bandsaws, the solution isn’t to put gloves on and proceed as before; it’s to keep your fingers well clear of the blade.

  40.  

    joechoj

    I don’t stock lights should be a requirement, but they sure would be a nice option, and a potential growth area for manufacturers. As with the helmet issue, it applies more in a world where cars and bikes mix. I’m against mandates that presuppose mixed car/bike since we’re moving toward separated infrastructure.

    Okay, you identify some difficulties. But how can it be so hard to tweak the design to accomodate light fixtures? These are professionals – I’m sure they can get it done.

    I didn’t realize retail models retain the exact design as the race model, and that’s a big deal for people. I’m guessing that’s just for bike racing fans, no? I don’t think commuters would much care that their street cruiser wasn’t ridden in the Tour de Whatever – I think they’d take that as a given! Anyway, it’s a strange model – so why can’t racing & commuting models be de-coupled, as they are in cars? And similar to cars, customers could choose their ‘package’. As long as wired lights weren’t mandated, this would allow people to either keep it cheap and stripped down, or to add a base package, or a blazing fireworks package.

    As to the aftermarket companies – well, that *is* too bad for them. There are always winners and losers with new paradigms. But the question isn’t “How can we keep these companies in business?”, it’s “What’s best for cyclists?”

  41.  

    SFnative74

    But if congestion pricing leads to more space on BART during rush hour for that single mom who starts work at a downtown restaurant at 8:30am, she might appreciate it.

  42.  

    Dark Soul

    SF shouldn’t created that much housing , that what happens.

  43.  

    joechoj

    Or manufacturers should at least design bikes better for modular, wired lights you can plug in. I agree, the aftermarket approach makes it harder than it should be. There should be a baseline light package people can choose to have installed when they buy a bike.

    I’d love to see blinkers, personally. I don’t love having to hand-signal when braking, especially on a downhill.
    And how about horns?? :)

    All that being said, these safety devices become much less critical when it’s just bikes together in protected lanes.

  44.  

    mx

    Which is also a way of punishing people without flexible work schedules who have to rely on BART to commute. A single 20-something tech worker may be able to easily shift his work hours to avoid peak time, and a lawyer may be able to afford to higher fare. A single mother who needs to work her scheduled shift at a downtown restaurant has no flexibility and might not be able to afford the higher fares.

    Wrapping the entire system in a discount scheme for lower-income workers is massively inefficient for everyone involved and partially defeats the point of the congestion pricing scheme in the first place.

  45.  

    SFnative74

    I think BART should use congestion, peak-hour pricing to reduce crowding and increase funding.

  46.  

    voltairesmistress

    I think most Walmart employees are hard-working and under-compensated people, not drones.

  47.  

    Justin

    Sorry I meant out of the four streets not three, yikes

  48.  

    Justin

    I would love to see this happen more often here in San Francisco, out of the three streets listed as possible starters, I would say Valencia St would be the easiest to start with. No need to deal with Muni re routing, the width of the street is perfect, the businesses needed are there to support it, and whether people like the corridor or not it is a business corridor that’s changed for the better, it’s a cleaner, safer newer refurbished looking street that has the ability to attract people and the potential for an awesome nightlife for people to have a great time, I hope this city along with the businesses along that corridor gets on board ASAP, and give it a chance because I know it has potential to be great and who knows it can become the norm and spread to other streets with great potential :)

  49.  

    dana hendrickson

    This study is poorly done and the idea of adding either bike lanes or path to El Camino is a terrible one that will sacrifice the safety of BOTH cyclists and pedestrians. See my report How To Make Menlo Park More Bike-Friendly at http://bit.ly/no-bike-on-ECR

  50.  

    Lars_P

    The problem is not the individual jerks. They will always be among us. It’s the SF system that gives every jerk a veto.