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  1.  

    SingleOccupantDriver

    Congestion caused by empty side seats of cars. Fix: single-width electric cars Win for drivers: drive and park faster. Win for bicycles: parked to curb eliminates bike dooring and very pleasant to ride beside http://www.commutercars.com

  2.  

    shotwellian

    SFMTA’s list of planned 2016 bike improvements released in May (http://www.sfcta.org/sites/default/files/content/Executive/Meetings/pnp/2016/05-May/2016SFMTA_BicycleProjects_051716%20%281%29.pdf) included a bike lane on 10th from Market to Folsom. Has anyone heard whether this is still happening? It’s arguably the worst stretch of “official bike route” in SoMa.

  3.  

    mx

    Agreed. It would also help if the apps themselves provided some of this guidance. I’ve occasionally seen the apps offer an alternate spot, but not nearly enough. If a passenger requests to be picked up/dropped off at a location where there’s no legal stopping point (say, right in front of Uber’s HQ on Market), the app ought to know that and suggest someplace else. That way the message comes from the service and not the driver, who has little power to refuse a request lest he/she receive a bad rating.

  4.  

    mx

    Exactly. There are some places that are clear hot-spots for pickups/dropoffs (and the Uber and Lyft apps already know how to direct passengers to these spots for convenience). We have more people who want to be dropped off, but not enough safe places to do it. The trick, of course, is enforcement to ensure that such spaces are kept clear for loading, not just used as free parking spaces.

    As an example, I frequently see Uber/Lyft drivers blocking the bike lane on WB Market near Polk. This is obviously wrong and not ok, but there’s also no legal place to stop for a considerable distance in either direction. Passengers are going to get upset and give the driver a bad rating if he insists on picking them up or dropping them off more than a block and a half away from their chosen spot, so of course they block the bike lane. The design of the street makes this an inevitability.

  5.  

    joechoj

    Any word on exactly how these videos are being used in driver trainings? Are these voluntary or mandatory viewing? Can we now expect every Uber driver to know these guidelines, and be subject to discipline by Uber for not following them?
    What are the proper procedures for registering complaints with Uber about drivers not following these rules?

    “It is illegal and dangerous to load or unload passengers in a bike lane.”
    “When you’re dropping off a rider on a street with a bike lane, *look for* open curb spaces or side streets so there’s plenty of room.” (Language makes it a suggestion.)
    “Always signal before pulling over.”

    This is encouraging. I like the thought of the growing ranks of citizen/contract drivers being exposed to this material.

  6.  

    RichRoLLed

    Diversity Panel Topic: When a cyclist dies, does it really matter if a vehicle hit them?

  7.  

    joechoj

    And bird-flipping all around, for pizzazz!

  8.  

    joechoj

    “passenger who now has to walk into the road”

    True, but that ‘road’ contains of 200lb vehicles moving at 20mph, not 4,000lb vehicles moving at 40mph as your comment implies.

  9.  

    Jym Dyer

    @donsf2003 – Still awaiting your principled, angry denouncement of the sleazy tactics of the 2014 Yes on L campaign.

  10.  

    murphstahoe

    dude you want to remove parking? What are you, a techie? A newbie? Or some other demonizable crazy?

  11.  

    Karen Lynn Allen

    On Valencia Street especially, daytime metered parking could be converted to taxi/ridehail drop off zones in the evenings from 5 pm to 1 am. As it is, some evenings the bike lane is blocked by three to four cars per block. Of course the best answer is what should have been done in the first place on Valencia–protected bike lanes that cars physically can’t get into.

  12.  

    Hunter

    Why hasn’t the SFBC and city begun to create taxi/ridehail dropoff zones (the way we have bus zones), at least on the most trafficked blocks. If there were a specific spot on each block for double parking / loading, then it wouldn’t be dangerous or illegal for them to stop here, and ridehail folks would know to head to that zone for their car to arrive. Easier on everyone.

  13.  

    PaleoBruce

    Helpful advice to motorists turning right across bike lanes: yes, be aware of the risk of approaching cyclists from behind. But also be aware of the risk of hitting the double parked cars in front. :)

  14.  

    farazs

    Lets all drive our cars on sidewalks and get “rid” of all pedestrians in one go. Then we can drive at whatever speeds we want without ever having to slow down for cross-walks.

    Is that your ultimate goal?

  15.  

    David

    This is a very important point. I moonlighted as a Lyft driver a couple years ago when it was still an emerging service. It was fun, but as the service became more widely used, I noticed a steep rise in unrealistic passenger expectations. They would be mildly upset when I didn’t load them exactly where they were standing, especially in bus zones. I made it clear that I was required to pull over safely and legally, which at least made them more understanding when I dropped them off at the nearest curbside clearing (usually a driveway within 50 feet) at their destination rather than next to a parked car in the middle of a traffic lane. I haven’t driven for the past year or so, and I can only imagine how much worse it’s gotten based on my bicycling experience. I’ve all but given up on riding down Valencia Street because the bike lanes are completely filled with double-parked cars, Ubers, and even taxis (they still exist??).

  16.  

    JustJake

    Nothing that California has ever done has reduced government, I’m not drinking that Kool-aid. The prime driving force behind regionalization is a new method to tax the overall region as a whole. Our long standing democratic process centers around the requirement for developing some sort of consensus, and the process is enhanced by that fact.

  17.  

    murphstahoe

    And now the thread is over 50 comments. Rich wins, you lose. Block him, please.

  18.  

    thielges

    Merging the Bay Area into a single entity would actually reduce government if done right. Right now there’s a lot of duplication. Not just the jurisdictional overlaps of city-county-region but even between adjacent cities.

  19.  

    Kristof Didrickson

    Simple UX solution: at the end of the ride, ask the user: ‘Did your driver pick/drop you off in a bike lane?’

  20.  

    chetshome

    That’s not an exception in the vehicle code–it’s also illegal. SFMTA made the decision to not enforce this law.

  21.  

    Francisco

    There is an exception, actually, which is elderly and disabled passengers.

  22.  

    farazs

    Yes, a cyclist taking a lane in the direction of travel is completely equivalent to a motorist entering oncoming traffic. I wonder why everyone else can’t see it? Its soooo obviously the same thing.

  23.  

    farazs

    RichLL has in a previous discussion claimed that if a motorist swerves to avoid an errant motorist and hence kills a cyclist, both the errant motorist and the cyclist are to blame.

  24.  

    farazs

    CVC 21751. On a two-lane highway, no vehicle shall
    be driven to the left side of the center of the roadway in
    overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the
    same direction unless the left side is clearly visible and
    free of oncoming traffic for a sufficient distance ahead to
    permit such overtaking and passing to be completely
    made without interfering with the safe operation of any
    vehicle approaching from the opposite direction.

    Game, set and match!

  25.  

    Gilla

    That’s it? I don’t see how this super short video will affect behavior.

  26.  

    Uncle Block

    Don’t Get Uberized – Distractive Technology is Dangerous. https://youtu.be/Uyc85OuVVBc

  27.  

    Guy Ross

    Eye witness as retold by the cops is the same as ‘the cops’.

  28.  

    Guy Ross

    This is an excellent point and although many ‘mega cities’ are of a unitary municipal government, many of the large cities in the U.S. aren’t and this is a major driving force of sprawl and urban blight.

  29.  

    Joseph

    Don’t forget the endless construction on each and every street corner.

  30.  

    Guy Ross

    Rich, in staying true to your well recognized style, you are oblivious to the vehicle code. There are no exceptions for caps. Any vehicle is not allowed to load, unload, or stop in a bike lane if it obstructs the movement of cyclists.

    There is no exception. There is no oppression and there is no double standard.

  31.  

    p_chazz

    Then there was the woman who was raped on a moving Metro train, the Metro police officer who was arrested for aiding ISIS, reports that the whole system may need to shut down for six months to make repairs…the list just goes on and on. A bit more than anecdotal data, wouldn’t you say? In fact, by any metric, Metro is a system in decline.

  32.  

    JustJake

    Those mega city are not 9 separate counties, and if Jim Wunderman from Bay Area Council has his wish, we will become a super mega-region of 21 counties, ranging from El Dorado county up in the foothills down to Monterey in the central coast. And some government agency is going to homogenize or ‘govern’ that mix? Please. We already have far too much government in California without creating more. The various cities and counties have been making choices for decades that represent their constituents, and we benefit from having a variety of different lifestyles represented. That’s a good thing, and isn’t going away anytime soon.

  33.  

    RichLL

    farazs, was the cyclist too far to the left or was the cyclist too far to the left? There was enough road width to accommodate two car widths, a bike and reasonable space between them.

    And of course we know there was no actual impact. So it’s not blindingly obvious that the driver is 100% to blame here, which is your assumption. And the eye witnesses and police do not support your view.

  34.  

    RichLL

    No, in Suyama’s case the 3-foot rule is crucial because there was no impact. For the driver to be at fault simply for “driving too close” to Suyama, then it must be reasonable for a cyclist to lose control and fatally fall from her bike.

    If she over-reacted to a vehicle that was, say, 4 feet away then that reduces the potential blame of that driver, and that is particularly so if Suyama was riding too far to the left.

    And even if the 3-foot rule doesn’t technically apply to oncoming traffic, you’d need a good reason to replace it with another number

  35.  

    RichLL

    Many US mega cities have a unitary government, as do most foreign mega-cities like London and Tokyo. It is the Bay Area that is the exception. There is nothing about the size of the population that prevents that.

  36.  

    RichLL

    If the car stops and picks up to the left of the bike lane, then that might be safer for cyclists on that bike lane, but it is less safe for the passenger who now has to walk into the road, and it’s less safe for other vehicles who will be held up by the stopped car in the middle of the road, and may take risks to pass the obstruction.

    So it’s not so much a safer approach for all, but a safer approach for some. Moreover, given that cabs can legally move into a bike lane to pick up or set down passengers, why should Uber be held to a different standard?

  37.  

    PopeMary

    Let’s take out all the pavement in the city. Some of us won’t be able to drive and some won’t be able to ride their tricycles any more.

    Is that your ultimate goal?

  38.  

    gneiss

    Part of the problem here also is passengers themselves. I have seen numerous comments from Uber and Lyft drivers that their passengers don’t understand why they can’t just pull over to the curb rather than getting to a place where it’s safe to let them out or pick them up.

    In addition, the system of rating drivers exacerbates this situation. Some passengers will give poor ratings to drivers who fail to pick them up or drop them off exactly where they are standing at the curb. It would be helpful if Uber and Lyft could address these concerns by modifying their rating system to account for unreasonable demands from riders as well.

  39.  

    ZA_SF

    Good start. Now shoot some videos with the normal chaos of: a blindly-reversing perpendicularly parked car blocked from view by the line of parallel parked cars, an annoyed pedestrian trying to go around them, a jogger approaching a blind-corner, a livid sportscar driver trying to swerve around both the Uber drop-off and the bicyclist passing them on the left, and throw in a MUNI bus or construction truck for good measure.

  40.  

    roymeo

    Just saying there’s a diversity of opinions…sometimes we want sorta local government, like when Rose Pak opposes a street being permanently closed to traffic sorta near her general focus area.

  41.  

    JustJake

    Go low, Romeo, go low.

  42.  

    Thomas

    I think the biggest issue here is that it being at the bottom of the wiggle (creek bed), an actually raised sidewalk could present drainage issues.

  43.  

    roymeo

    It’s weird that anyone’s pulled out the 3-foot passing minimum definition when it was merely a clarification on what a safe distance was meant to be.
    One is always responsible for driving and passing in a safe manner; no tape measure required.

  44.  

    roymeo

    Whoa…I don’t see how you could have one government anymore that we don’t have Rose Pak to micromanage traffic flow for everyone.

  45.  

    Jym Dyer

    @RichLL – My point, which should be obvious to anyone who bothers to read for comprehension, is that the 3-foot rule does not apply in the oncoming lane, and that there’s no excuse for the CHP not to know that.

    It’s your “full responsibility/fair share” blather that is off-topic here. There was a discussion in an entirely different blog entry about costs and the facts of that were explained to you, but here you are just regurgitating the same uninformed opinions where they are completely irrelevant.

  46.  

    gneiss

    From the Press Democrat article:

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/6073413-181/sebastopol-woman-dies-after-bike

    “Sloat said officers are also investigating whether the cyclists would have been considered oncoming traffic at the time Rudin went around the vehicle in front of him. Under state law, motorists can pass another vehicle so long as the left side “is clearly visible and free of oncoming traffic.”

    “We’re still investigating whether or not this is a legal pass, and whether it violated the state’s 3-feet law,” Sloat said.”

    The fact that they are even questioning whether or not cyclists are considered oncoming traffic in the first place is stunning, but not when you consider it in the context of another statement he had made here:

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/lifestyle/6031808-181/warning-some-sonoma-county-bicyclists?artslide=0

    “But CHP Officer Jon Sloat, who reviewed the video, said the incident did not warrant a citation. Instead, he said, the CHP sent a warning letter to the pickup’s registered owner, based on the distance between the two vehicles as they passed.

    “He was awfully close to that other car. We recognize that,” Sloat said.”

    You realize that CHP is more concerned about how close the driver passed the vehicle next to him – not checking to see if there was oncoming traffic, as if the people on bicycles in the opposing lane are completely irrelevant to a safe pass.

  47.  

    farazs

    Yeah, there is absolutely nothing the motorist could have done that is between staying at home or performing an illegal and fatal driving manoeuvre. Poor soul had no real choice in the matter.

  48.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    Glad to help :)

  49.  

    voltairesmistress

    Thank you, Jeffrey, for all that information. I always learn something from your comments.

  50.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    Well, under a different plan Brisbane is supposed to gain 11000 jobs by 2040, but also under that plan Brisbane needs to build about 6k housing units.