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    Really? Really?

    I should have to just keep my mouth shut when someone is breaking the law and endangering my life for fear that I may be attacked? That is how you want me to live? Is that how YOU want to live? Also a really good example for my kid. “You know, when we see someone breaking the law we just shouldnt say anything. It might get us in trouble.” It isnt though I yelled at the guy….just calmly said that there was a stop sign there.

    This is not the way I will live.

    (Not to mention the 2 construction workers near me watching who yelled profanities at the guy nor the 27 years I have been studying 2 different martial arts. I really didnt feel unsafe at all.)


    Darksoul SF

    Seems one sided.


    Darksoul SF

    I hope Mayor veto the unsafe law to ensure safety and disregard the supporters (who think is safe).


    Darksoul SF

    That (possible fake) incident looks like a attempt to denounce drivers and picture look very odd (it maybe staged to get that person attention.).



    Jarrett Walker of Human Transit has a good piece on stop distance:

    He points out 400 meters is a generic, commonly used distance between stops, so 500m would be quite a bit above the average, actually. Of course local contexts vary widely. It’s certainly way above the SF average!



    Google Maps says 550m, or 1800 ft, which is actually pretty far for bus stop spacing. Muni uses a standard of 900 – 1400 ft (275 – 425 m), which I think is about right; the issue in SF is that most stops are closer together than the official standard says they should be.

    Shame on Oakland. SF isn’t perfect, but I can’t imagine the city doing something as brazenly disrespectful of transit riders as this.



    Actually, in Idaho red lights are legally *stop signs* to people on bikes. In other words, it works like this:

    stop sign = yield legally required
    stop light = full stop legally required

    Conflicts and injuries? Down.


    david vartanoff

    30th is the best stop location as it is the access point to “Pill Hill” with the shallowest grade. Shame on Oakland. The response should have been “don’t like transit riders? move your bank”.



    “Make sure you do indeed vote for the other candidates.”

    Like who, exactly?


    Jeffrey Baker

    There is no serious opposition.



    he needs to park it in the crosswalk at Turk and Leavenworth



    So, you have a photo with the bicyclist on the hood of the car, numerous witnesses, and yet, “It’s not sure…the cyclist went on the hood. We have one side of the story, we don’t have the other side of the story.”

    Yes, by all means, wait for the other side of the story…


    Jeffrey Baker

    Re: the EBX article on the stop removal on the AC Transit 51 line, the remaining stops at Hawthorne and 28th are only 500 meters apart. Isn’t that close enough, bordering on ridiculously close together?


    Jeffrey Baker

    Brilliant. I love that the press continues to blank out license plates under the mistaken assumption that people have a right to privacy upon the public streets.




    Jeffrey Baker

    CBS link in the first item is bogus.



    Cyclist on windshield

    Let’s not forget double fines in construction zone. Throw the book at this driver.



    Yes, they’ve basically ordered the PCOs not to ticket a class of vehicles that violate the law. How is this is an different from asking the police to place a low priority on cyclists rolling through empty intersections?



    It seems like you haven’t really followed the debate! The cycling crowd is asking for exactly the same thing – that law enforcement focus on actual unsafe behaviour like failure to yield to pedestrians more aggressively, whether by bicyclists or motorists.



    This is identity politics at it’s finest. People who walk and ride bicycles in the city are natural allies who are both vulnerable on the streets because they aren’t surrounded by 2,000 lbs. of fast moving metal. Even framing the argument this way misses the fact that these are simply modes of travel rather than political groups. However, making this an argument of convenience of “bikers” over “pedestrians”, you split the advocates apart over nuance and can neuter their political strength.

    It also shows that our mayor doesn’t care about Vision Zero, except that it’s a convenient slogan. The core of the Vision Zero movement is careful data analysis. And since there is no data which suggest that the ‘Idaho Stop’ law has resulted in an increase in injuries and collisions he is ignoring one of the key principals of that effort. The fact that his letter doesn’t reference any crash data shows that this is more about emotion and politics than data.



    It looks like the SFMTA gets to trump CVC 21211 in SF city limits with their mere -memo “allowing” Taxi cabs to obstruct bike paths. Perhaps the SFMTA could write a similar memo to trump the CVC about Idaho style Stop-Yield law?



    Aaron, with this pithy article, you remind us all why the Fourth Estate exists. Thank you for pointing out this emperor wears no clothes.



    Ed Lee sucks, but hey! he’s on his way to the Governor’s mansion with his tech money and his unblemished election record. Who cares what some hippies running against him now have to say LOL



    Yeah, but Willie Brown told the chip monk it was OK for taxis to block bike lanes.



    You need to add this to your list:

    0. The time Mayor Lee’s SFMTA granted special permission for taxi drivers to block bike lanes for pick-up and drop off passengers. Talk about sacrificing safety for convenience….


    Michael Smith

    Just a reminder. There is an election coming up. This is a prime opportunity to voice your opinion and vote against the Zero Vision mayor. Remember, not voting is the same as voting for him. Make sure you do indeed vote for the other candidates.


    City Resident

    Thank you, Aaron, for your dedication and consistency. You covered issues that few bothered to pursue, such as our Mayor’s fiscally and environmentally irresponsible erosion of Sunday metered parking. You demonstrated humility when you interviewed Captain Sanford. We can all learn from one another and strident voices tend to alienate. Thanks for staying calm. And thank you for making both and San Francisco better places.


    City Resident

    I, too, would rather bicycle on side streets, away from the congestion, noise and exhaust of automobiles, however often times the very best streets to bike on (ie. those that follow the lay of the land and topographically offer the path of least resistance) are streets like Masonic, Van Ness (or Polk), Market, and Alemany. Side streets often have stop signs every block. Major thoroughfares have green waves, allowing motorists (and sometimes cyclists) to enjoy efficient and quick transportation). For the occasional cyclist, these issues may be unimportant. But for regular bicyclists/bike commuters and for those that wish to see more fellow citizens pedaling (for the sake of our environment and so much more), it makes sense to have good bicycling infrastructure built where it does the most good.



    But nobody would take on this turkey. Even if Leno, maybe Ammiano, were to lose to Ed Lee, it would have made him dance and stick out his neck. By running with no credible opposition, he’s been given the go ahead to do whatever the hell he wants for 4.5 more years. Underscored by raising a million dollars for his campaign and spending it basically on largesse.


    City Resident

    Thank you, Aaron, for speaking truth to power. There is a lot of greenwashing and b.s. going on here. Vision Zero and Transit First are too often not much more than a slick slogan, especially when the mayor chooses to backpedal and water things down. Thank you for consistently displaying this mayor’s hypocrisy.



    Initiating a negative interaction with a total stranger on the streets can lead to any number of easily foreseeable negative reactions. It clearly could have been much worse for you than a mere swear word in passing, and you are an idiot for exposing your child to the potential fallout from the conflict you initiated.


    Andy Chow

    Also, with the new BART schedule, there’s a 30 minute gap from SF to Millbrae during the 8pm hour. BART expanded service on the red line for 1 hour, but also cut back the yellow line service to Millbrae for 1 hour. The last red line train to SF runs 30 minutes after the red line train before. Before the change the yellow line served Millbrae every 15 minutes during the 8pm hour before running every 20 minutes from 9pm.

    The more interesting fact is that there’s no southbound Caltrain service from Millbrae during the 8pm hour (there’s a train leaving 6 min before 8pm and 4 minutes after 9pm). Train 192 is actually quite crowded leaving SF, so Caltrain should run another train at about 8pm to reduce wait time and crowding.


    Black n Pink Fixed Gear

    If he were smiling I would give him a pass. But ok you are right.



    You’re representing a big part of why people don’t start cycling.
    The guy is on a bike, but he’s apparently doing it wrong according to your sense of style. Who really cares?


    Black n Pink Fixed Gear

    What a square. Look at him riding probably ~2mph with both hands on the brakes. Mash that fixie Mayor!


    Black n Pink Fixed Gear

    Thanks for the Anecdata Colonel!



    I agree… a crackdown (if done correctly) on failure to yield (to pedestrians, especially) would show that the new law actually has teeth, and would hopefully make this whole conversation less divisive.

    In some sense, I don’t fault Mayor Lee too much for the veto… he’s just doing a cost benefit analysis and figures he’ll please more people with the veto (perhaps those with more $$$) than he’ll piss off. It’s politics, and I’m probably too cynical here, but par for the course.

    I’m actually really impressed and surprised by the fact that six supervisors have come out strong for this. It’s nice that they are voting based on doing the right thing, even if it’s generally unpopular, to enhance safety and quality of life in the city.

    I think Suhr could have been a more politic and basically said that the police’s job is to enforce laws and prioritize the safety of all road users and leave it at that. Basically, a non-answer instead of coming out against the proposal.


    Aaron Bialick

    There is a large block of quoted text in this article comprised of Scott Wiener’s explanation of why he supports the Bike Yield Law.



    Right…as it is today, if they focus only on egregious violations, everyone passing by will see them turning a blind eye toward a lot of people running (safely, but illegally) stop signs, which may makes them look incompetent, lazy, or like they are condoning illegal behavior. If you change the law, their presence and enforcement could be much more effective.



    If this law goes into effect I think the way the SFPD can really drive the key point home would be to have an enforcement action on the wiggle and *only* ticket the egregious violators, and while they are writing those tickets smile and wave nicely to the slow-rollers.



    Bullshit. Bicycles are just another wheeled vehicle that I have to look out for.



    If you grab a moving bicycle by the handlebars and move your hand very quickly in a downward direction, you will direct all the bicyclist’s forward momentum into the ground.



    I walk or ride through the Wiggle daily and agree there are way too many jacka$$es riding through there. Even if just 5% of bike riders are totally inconsiderate and dangerous, that means every minute there is at least one coming through the Wiggle during rush hour and sunny weekends given the number of people riding here. Thing is, if an Idaho law was correctly enforced, those people would get tickets.



    When I said “Hey there is a stop sign” the person yelled “F— you!” To a
    father. Walking a 10 year old kid. I get sworn at fairly regularly when
    pointing out stop signs but this was the first time I had someone yell a
    profanity in front of my kid.

    You catch more bees with honey than vinegar. Play the victim card rather than the angry card. True for peds, true for bikes. Consider it part of the greater battle between “jerks” and “not-jerks”. I used to just give a big frown and point at my toddler. Worked pretty well.



    “If you knew anything you’d know I find him to be a bad mayor”.

    Dan knows a lot of semiconductor physics, but that’s not anything I guess. Also, bikes.



    ” ‘Automobile stop’ is full stop.”

    That’s funny!



    And that’s the point. Let’s stop focusing on the arbitrary and unrealistic full stop, and pay more attention to yielding and right-of-way. The Page St example you give is a perfect case of someone not exhibiting due care and yielding right-of-way to someone on foot in the crosswalk. That person should have received a citation. A yield law would more realistically direct police resources to focus on these behaviors, not failure to make a complete stop when no one is around.



    Welcome back Colonel!!



    I’m not voting for ex lee, I you knew anything you’d know I find him to be a bad mayor, but I really don’t believe any of the “candidates” running would really be any different so there’s no point in participating in the charade .



    That was njudah, not me.