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  1.  

    SF Guest

    What I got out of watching this video a few times is one cyclist didn’t want to allow the zipcar to slip through while everyone behind her was stopped so he stopped his bike in front of her car. (If this cyclist was not so adamant to disallow the zipcar from getting past him this incident wouldn’t have occurred.) [This telegraphs a message the intent was to disrupt traffic whereby no car would be able to pass] She inched her car towards him to get him to move and that’s when he leaned his bike against her car.

    Several other cyclists came to the original offender’s rescue which unnecessarily escalated it to an ugly situation with inaudible obscenities and property damage to the car.

    While SFPD initially stated they cannot pursue the case without either party coming forward it’s good to know they assigned an investigator to the case.

    I couldn’t agree more with Supervisor Farrell: ” I expect and hope that other Critical Mass participants will condemn the behavior seen this past Friday and actively encourage their participants to respect everyone and all the applicable traffic laws while participating.””

  2.  

    twinpeaks_sf

    Didn’t know we had such a policy (but we should).

  3.  

    GarySFBCN

    I expected CM to evolve. And that a group is stained by a few is the way society usually works. I remember in the the 1980s when NAMBLA (a pedophile advocacy group) decided that they should be included in the SF Pride Parade. It was a clusterfuck and I think that they legally, they had the right to march. You can imagine how the right wing and even some on the left reacted to that, and it looked like it was going to stain us all.

    So they marched in the parade and had tomatoes, bottles rocks and insults hurled at them from the LGBTs on the parade route. That took care of NAMBLA. I think the police escorted them out of the parade for their safety.

    I’m not suggesting that non-evil bicyclists have to form vigilante squads (but I’m guessing they’d have a pretty cool logo). I’m just saying that the unfairness of assholes making it difficult for any group seems to be a common thing, and proactive soundbites can erode the damage, as can tomatoes, bottles and rocks.

  4.  

    murphstahoe

    I will not say “I am not my brother’s keeper” – but that guy is not my brother.

    To say “CM missed an opportunity” is to completely misunderstand Critical Mass. Critical Mass is not an organization.

    Putting it on cyclists who are showing up at boring planning meetings and BoS meetings to go police random other people who happen to be on bikes is (metaphors deleted lest this becomes a hyperbole fest).

  5.  

    NoeValleyJim

    A car is obviously a dangerous weapon.

  6.  

    NoeValleyJim

    Attacking her or attacking her car? Those aren’t the same things to any normal person.

  7.  

    hailfromsf

    I have a question for you: how many objects do you own or use that are made of wood?

  8.  

    gneiss

    Yes. I ride by there daily. On the (now more frequent) days when a DPT officer has stationed themselves in the taxi stand, there is a noticeable difference in the number of vehicles that are blocking the bike lane and making dangerous moves into the curb ‘no parking zones’. It most definitely made a difference for the morning commute.

  9.  

    Mountain Viewer

    Flyer says “The Powell Street Pilot project would prohibit all vehicles except Muni “. So the proposal is broader than a car-free street. Would this also mean a bike-free street?

  10.  

    jd_x

    Has anyone else noticed all the DPT officers out at the 4th & King Caltrain station recently, presumably ticketing people blocking the bike lane or otherwise parking illegally? Any word on this?

    Also, yesterday I saw an ambulance and a couple cop cars in the bike lane there like a collision had just happened (by the time I got there, I couldn’t tell what had happened).

  11.  

    Prinzrob

    They do make regular statements about cyclist responsibilities and distance themselves from CM, but nobody seems to notice because it doesn’t fit the all-powerful bike lobby narrative:

    https://twitter.com/sfbike/status/638492788745728001
    https://twitter.com/sfbike/status/638474260412014592
    https://twitter.com/sfbike/status/638481261586161664

  12.  

    Prinzrob

    I’d say the movement has evolved, but some of the individual participants have not. See http://www.kidicalmass.org/ for some examples (including a ride coming up in Concord soon on Sept 19!).

  13.  

    Prinzrob

    To stall a project that would enable many more people to safely take transit, walk, or bike, due to concerns over lost CO2 sequestration. Talk about not seeing the forest for the… well, you know.

    That being said, I also like to see streetscape projects designed from the ground up to incorporate and take advantage of mature street trees whenever feasible, as those are not easily replaceable resources which realistically take decades to renew. I don’t see it as acceptable to stall the project at this stage, but it does seem like an oversight on SFMTA’s part, and perhaps should lead to a city policy regarding public street tree replacement. Not to make improvements more difficult, but simply to get ahead of issues like this in the future.

  14.  

    murphstahoe

    Andy – I was out there minutes after it happened – California in Burlingame at Broadway was completely messed up, Rollins was closed, Carolan was closed, it happened just after the Giants ended. There is no alternate route “out of the parking lot” ;)

  15.  

    GarySFBCN

    Look, nobody pissed me off more than Critical Mass – when they first started their rides, because of them I was stuck a crowded Third street bus (15?) in one place for more than an hour and the driver wouldn’t let anyone exit because it was dangerous or something.

    But Critical Mass did bring an awareness to me and thousands of others about the issues that bicyclists face in San Francisco. And I thought the next step would be to go from anarchy and assholism to make a point to working within the system to bring needed change. Maybe that was left to the Bicycle Coalition but I think CM miss an opportunity.

    And yes, there are setbacks and the fuckwads who blame all bicyclists for the crazy man who rides on the sidewalk aren’t going to change. But that doesn’t mean that we/you all shouldn’t try to improve the image of bicyclists.

    Another topic: Even though I’m not a big Peskin supporter, I’m voting against Christensen. I was kind of shocked to see how badly she did on her bicycle survey questions and equally shocked to see the comments here defending her. She is a hack who will support whatever Mayor Lee, his eye doctor and his big donors want. WTF is that about?

  16.  

    baklazhan

    Anyone who’s willing to sign up for a subscription service probably has 4g service already.

  17.  

    Dexter Wong

    Fran, I wasn’t even born when this plan was suggested (and I was born near the peak of the Baby Boom). But the plan looks like the end of Sloat Blvd. near the Great Highway.

  18.  

    Andy Chow

    I tune to KCBS for the traffic report, and if you are familiar with the area, you can take I-280, El Camino, or Bayshore Blvd to avoid the mess. Those who got stuck on the freeway for hours are the ones who already drove by the last off ramp before the closure.

    280 wasn’t bad at all.

  19.  

    bellaluna

    Upright Biker do you work for Fox News?

  20.  

    quinquagesima

    She was in fear of her life. Her car was surrounded by angry bicyclists one whom was attacking her with a blunt object. Not a jury in the world who would convict her. I doubt the DA would press charges.

  21.  

    bellaluna

    I think that the current Mayor and board of supervisors are the ones that are backward thinking. What is forward thinking in the Ellis Act evictions taking place in North Beach and the Mission? What is forward thinking in destroying our communities? Have you walked through North Beach and the Mission lately? Have you seen all the empty buildings purchased by speculators and being used for AirBnB? This is the most regressive board of supervisors dominated by real estate interests. You really think we need to embrace this?

  22.  

    murphstahoe

    “Sadly, it didn’t really harness it’s political power as it could have.”

    I may complain that we haven’t seen all the improvements we’d like over the last 15 years, but I can’t see any causation by Critical Mass. Most shortcomings have been due to the same flaws that have screwed up all other sorts of progress in San Francisco. I’ve never once thought that if gee, there were no instances at Critical Mass or Chris Buccheres or stop sign runners that suddenly Polk would be getting better upgrades or Masonic would be done.

    The people who hold up those projects hold the same values as those who hold up anything in this country. “If it doesn’t benefit me, I don’t want my money going towards it”. Say for example High Speed Rail – “I won’t take it, ergo boondoggle”. Bike lanes are a double whammy – “I don’t bike, and I think that bike lanes are taking away from my preferred transportation option not only in funding but in amount of space”.

    In that sort of atmosphere, you just can’t win. If u-lock justice goes away, it will be running stop signs. If stop sign running goes away, it will be freeloading on gas taxes. A use tax for cyclists, it would be helmet wearing. The goal posts are infinitely moveable by a dedicated selfish person.

  23.  

    Crusselsprouts

    Can we get these bike lanes in the ground already?? Jeez.

  24.  

    GarySFBCN

    I won’t sing to the tone deaf.

  25.  

    mx

    Well I’ve never seen the SFMTA or SFPD hold taxi drivers accountable. In my experience, taxi drivers are more likely to break traffic laws by doing things like pulling u-turns or illegal lefts on Market St, where TNC drivers are more worried about getting tickets and follow their GPS instead of turning illegally.

    That said, I would like to to see Uber and Lyft institute a short “how to be a good TNC driver in SF” video and require their drivers to watch it. It could talk about how best to safely pickup/drop-off passengers, how to ensure their GPS is set before pulling out, safe passing distances for bikes and how to merge into a bike lane and avoid right hooks, common turn restrictions and transit-only lanes, etc… It certainly wouldn’t solve every problem automatically, but it would at least start everyone out with a bit of a common basis for how we can all get along.

  26.  

    NoeValleyJim

    Well let’s see, in one case it was motorcyclists in the other case bicyclists. In one it was in NYC, in the other case San Francisco. In one case, the driver was pulled from his SUV and beaten and in the other case no one was injured. In the first case felony charges were filed and in the second no charges were filed.

    But other than those things, yeah they were exactly almost the same!

  27.  

    NoeValleyJim

    So in other words, she would have gone to jail, probably for second degree murder, if she would have run over the person in her path. She did not have any defense according to the 4 reasons you stated in 197. IANAL.

  28.  

    NoeValleyJim

    Car drivers are entitled to kill anyone who blocks their way, don’t you know?

  29.  

    helloandyhihi

    Is that even possible? I don’t think it could be done with a single vote but perhaps a package of reforms could have the same impact?

  30.  

    murphstahoe

    Give one concrete local example where this “hurting the efforts” has had a tangible, measurable impact.

  31.  

    GarySFBCN

    Nonsense. This is Critical Mass or its legacy. This group of cyclists engaged in some sort of communication and agreement in order to ride as a group.

    I’m support bicycling, but to ignore the fact that the are a handful of cyclists who are maladjusted entitled brat-thugs who are hurting the efforts of all cyclists is idiotic.

  32.  

    Nicasio Nakamine

    Uncalled for and disrespectful.

  33.  

    StrixNoctis .

    Do you realize how psychotic you sound to be posting your disappointment that the driver didn’t run over the cyclist in a situation that ended without anyone actually being harmed?

  34.  

    murphstahoe

    Yet you let him troll you. again.

  35.  

    Ziggy Tomcich

    Jimbo, you asked last week if someone could explain to you the definition of a troll on Streetsblog? You’re being one! Your post is upsetting, inflammatory and completely insensitive. By blaming Nils Linke for his own death and claiming that his life was less valuable than 49 trees, you’re asserting that all of our lives aren’t important. Making biking safer and more accessible to everyone will have a much greater benefit to our environment and our quality of life. All of us on here know that. All of us care greatly about our environment which is why we choose not to poison it by driving in cars everywhere. So while may claim to be morally superior to the rest of us, you’re not! You’re a pathetic little troll who thinks you know lot more than you actually do.

  36.  

    jonobate

    Obviously the dead human being is a greater loss than the 49 trees. Why is this even a question?

  37.  

    p_chazz

    See also: CAL PEN CODE § 195

    Homicide is excusable in the following cases:

    1. When committed by accident and misfortune, or in doing any other lawful act by lawful means, with usual and ordinary caution, and without any unlawful intent.

    2. When committed by accident and misfortune, in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or upon a sudden combat, when no undue advantage is taken, nor any dangerous weapon used, and when the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.

  38.  

    timsmith

    Disturbing sentiment.

  39.  

    Jimbo

    i dont drink beer

  40.  

    quinquagesima

    CAL. PEN. CODE § 197 : Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in any of the following cases:

    1. When resisting any attempt to murder any person, or to commit a felony, or to do some great bodily injury upon any person; or,

    2. When committed in defense of habitation, property, or person, against one who manifestly intends or endeavors, by violence or surprise, to commit a felony, or against one who manifestly intends and endeavors, in a violent, riotous or tumultuous manner, to enter the habitation of another for the purpose of offering violence to any person therein; or,

    3. When committed in the lawful defense of such person, or of a wife or husband, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant of such person, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony or to do some great bodily injury, and imminent danger of such design being accomplished; but such person, or the person in whose behalf the defense was made, if he was the assailant or engaged in mutual combat, must really and in good faith have endeavored to decline any further struggle before the homicide was committed; or,

    4. When necessarily committed in attempting, by lawful ways and means, to apprehend any person for any felony committed, or in lawfully suppressing any riot, or in lawfully keeping and preserving the peace.

  41.  

    Mesozoic Polk

    The more pertinent question, in our not-so-humble, neighbors-are-the-real-traffic-experts opinion:

    How many drivers will have their feelings hurt if the Masonic redesign moves forward as planned?

  42.  

    NoeValleyJim

    Are you a lawyer?

  43.  

    NoeValleyJim

    I had a beer bottle thrown at me on my bicycle by a jackass in an pickup truck on Market Street. Was that you?

  44.  

    NoeValleyJim

    You need serious help.

  45.  

    Alex Matevish

    You would give up mature tree canopy for a few years for a person’s life? Hell of an exchange rate, maybe you’d be better off moving to the country – I hear they have plenty of trees.

  46.  

    Jimbo

    the same is true for people and animals. we will all die, but should we be ended early for the sake of streets upgrade?

    trees are living creatures.

    and the idea that double the number of trees doesnt take away from killing trees and it also doesn’t replace the canopy that mature trees provide.

    Which is more damaging. 1 dead non-helmet wearing European tourist every 10 yrs, or the death of 49 trees that are being killed in his name.

  47.  

    Ziggy Tomcich

    SF needs an anti-NIMBY voter referendum that will prevent whining complainers from suing and delaying projects every time they don’t get their way.

  48.  

    HuckieCA

    You can’t see it in the video clearly, because the camera was not pointed at the front of the vehicle and cyclist who was filming was moving at the time, but it does look like the car inched forward when the light turned green. It’s impossible to tell if there was light contact around the 28 second mark with the cyclist that threw him into a fit of road rage, or it was just her inching forward in defiance that sparked him. If there was contact, it was so light that he didn’t even lose he balance because a few seconds later we see him hop off the bike and lay it down on the hood of her car.

    If it were me, I’d have stopped, put the car in park, and starting filming, but I also know a thing or two about bullies, and if you don’t engage, they will eventually lose interest.

  49.  

    shamelessly

    I am sick to death of people shouting “won’t somebody think of the trees?!” to block projects in SF. Many urbanites don’t seem to realize that trees don’t live forever. They have lifespans, and they will eventually die and have to be cut up and replaced. It makes a lot more sense to do that in the context of infrastructure upgrades.

  50.  

    murphstahoe

    This group has nothing to do with anyone who made any point. They happened to be on bikes. They could have been hanging out in Oakland breaking windows. Or whatever. This has nothing to do with “cyclists”.