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  1.  

    Prinzrob

    Actually the full-price membership is likely going up by a lot, unfortunately. I’ve heard anywhere from $150-180 per year (around $12-15 per month). There may be opportunities for discounts off that price, employer subsidies, etc.

  2.  

    joechoj

    Full price is $88/yr, or $7.33/mo. So $5/mo is about 2/3 full price. Not bad.
    Loss-prevention seems like a tricky issue to work out. People paying by credit card would be foolish to try to steal a bike, since their credit card would be charged some penalty price. I wonder how it would work with other forms of payment.

  3.  

    Prinzrob

    The current plan is to offer a discount rate of $5/month for low income individuals, but that still comes out to $60 per year. There is some work being done to try to find additional subsidies to lower that cost further, as well as accept more forms of payment and at more locations, making the system accessible for more people.

  4.  

    RichLL

    Does the viability of this enterprise depend on perceptions of minimizing shrinkage?

  5.  

    RichLL

    So there are race quotas for bike share locations? Really?

    And because the voters of this state outlawed race quotas we can just do an end-run around that by instead calling them “communities of concern”?

  6.  

    joechoj

    Of course cost is a barrier to using the bike system, especially for low income folks. I know that devising some sort of discount system has been part of the plan for making the system accessible to low income users in the East Bay – but haven’t heard any details. Have you?

  7.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    He also raised a huge stink about Grand Ave. road diet.

  8.  

    Prinzrob

    Thanks for the update Melanie, and keep up the great work!

  9.  

    Melanie Curry

    Bay Area Bike Share has a goal of putting at least 20 percent of the stations in “communities of concern,” which are low-income communities or communities of color as defined by the MTC (http://gis.mtc.ca.gov/samples/Interactive_Maps/cocs.html). Of the 34 proposed stations for Phase 1, they say they’ve sited 16 of them within “communities of concern.”

  10.  

    Melanie Curry

    Thanks for the corrections, Kevin and Prinzrob. The website isn’t as clear about future phases as you are here.

  11.  

    Flatlander

    The theater owner would probably fight it. Remember when he raised a huge stink over (gasp!) extending parking meter hours?

  12.  

    lunartree

    > “For us it represents a gang color”

    Bus lanes are a gang color?… What is wrong with these people?!

  13.  

    Prinzrob

    Some of the biggest barriers to bicycling for low income individuals involve theft and repair issues, due to less access to bike shops. Bike share addresses both of these problems. Of course, then there still has to be bikes located at or near the destinations people want to visit, at a price point that they can afford, and with adequate infrastructure for safe bike trips.

  14.  

    Prinzrob

    I think the idea is that people can hop on a bike after they get off the bus, for that last mile trip to their destination. Of course, that also means another bike share station has to be at or near their location as well.

  15.  

    Prinzrob

    Those additional locations will likely be served in 2017 when phases 2 and 3 of the bike share roll out are implemented. This first phase in 2016 only accounts for 25% of the total bikes and stations to be installed.

  16.  

    Prinzrob

    Many more transit hubs, including Amtrak stations, will get bikes in phases 2 and 3 throughout 2017, when the remaining 75% of the bikes and stations will be installed.

  17.  

    Prinzrob

    The planned service area extends to West Oakland and Fruitvale. This phase 1 of the rollout includes only 25% of the bikes, and phases 2 and 3 will add additional bikes and stations throughout 2017 at more locations around the city.

  18.  

    Prinzrob

    Please see the additional comments on this article. This map only shows phase 1 (2016) including 25% of the bikes to be installed. The remaining 75% (phase 2 and 3) will be installed at additional locations throughout 2017.

  19.  

    murphstahoe

    How is the market of “people who don’t want to have their bike stolen” a niche market?

    I lock my bike up outside for hours with no worry with a simple u-lock – but I live in the cuts now. In 15 years in SF I had an extra beater bike at all times in the event I had to ride somewhere and lock up for an extensive period of time. And I still didn’t do that very often. And it was a hassle because I had to take my lights/bag/etc… off the bike. And I had one stolen.

    I still did it, but it added friction to the system where a certain percentage of the time I would MUNI or cab or (gasp) drive because of security hassle. Bike share removes that completely.

  20.  

    Prinzrob

    This map shows only phase 1, which is 25% of the total bikes and stations to be installed in the East Bay. The remaining 75% will be installed at additional locations throughout 2017.

  21.  

    Prinzrob

    Correct, the map that was recently released (phase 1) is only 25% of the total bikes and stations, to be installed in 2016. The remaining 75% (phases 2 and 3) will be installed throughout 2017, and are not indicated on this map.

  22.  

    Melanie Curry

    I suppose that depends on your definition of “close.” I think it’s a pretty long walk from the ferry to the Amtrak station (which is a whole ‘nother lost opportunity)

  23.  

    Kevin M

    The article isn’t accurate. From the website: “Below are the Proposed Expansion Sites for the first phase of Bay Area Bike Share’s expansion. These are just the beginning of what will be a two-year roll out that will grow bike share from 700 bikes to 7,000 bikes in the Bay Area. We have chosen to start in areas that are contiguous with existing stations or are in the downtown areas to be able to serve the maximum number of bike trips from day one and grow outward from there.”

    There are 1,300 bikes planned for the East Bay cities, but they won’t all fit into this first phase, so there will be far more than the 34 proposed stations by the time the full system is in place.

  24.  

    Mike Jones

    Good points, there are lots of niche markets. However, buses do have bike racks and in at least one “wonderful” European city so do taxis.

  25.  

    J

    Way worse than I expected. Low density of stations + low number of stations = a system only useful for a very small number of trips.

    Imagine a bus network with only 3 lines and 34 stops. Not super useful in an area of this size, so don’t expect much use.

  26.  

    murphstahoe

    “Amtrak stations are left out, though, and so is the West Oakland BART station.”

    If we are going to focus on transit hubs – note that there is a station at the Jack London Sq Ferry. Which is actually pretty close to Amtrak.

  27.  

    murphstahoe

    Buy a bike, and a super heavy very expensive lock, and don’t drink at your destination, because you can’t take a cab home.

  28.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    Shoot, they got one at Ashby and College but not at Alcatraz/College nor at Rockridge BART. Seems like a missed opportunity to connect the network with just one more station. Looking at the map I have a hard time seeing how I would ever use this system. Maybe it makes more sense to people who are coming in from SF on BART?

  29.  

    Mike Jones

    Bike share is more a way of making rich people drive less, than making poor people ride more. Want to ride? Buy a bike.

  30.  

    murphstahoe

    As we all know, movie goers only drive. You know, in cars. Also, as p_chazz points out – brown people.

  31.  

    murphstahoe

    LOL

  32.  

    Andy Chow

    I also notice that. The density, distance, and terrain is suitable enough to support a bike share station to serve as a feeder to BART.

  33.  

    SF_Abe

    I’m bummed there isn’t a station at the Grand Lake Theater. It seems like the perfect distance from BART for bikeshare.

    I hope these stations generate enough momentum to expand again in a few years

  34.  

    tiabgood

    Zipcar locations are similar.

  35.  

    Mike Jones

    Most are along AC Transit’s 1/1R route. Simpler to catch the bus?

  36.  

    p_chazz

    I see they are where all the white people are. Black and brown people don’t count, evidently.

  37.  

    p_chazz

    You don’t have panel discussions at parties.

  38.  

    roymeo

    I am being obtuse, it seems.

  39.  

    roymeo

    Who ever could have imagined we’d get all that hyperbole from a thin layer of thermoplastic!

  40.  

    Mark

    Sorry Roymeo. You are not tracking what I am saying. You do know that Redevelopment Agencies are dead, right? The SFMTA is attempting to do what the Redevelopment Agencies used to do. The gentrification of the Mission will occur ten times faster due to the SFMTA making shopping or dining there so bad that no one wants to go there anymore. Watch.

  41.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    I am being a bit flippant. As you can see the streets of Oakland are all but empty even in the middle of Monday morning.

  42.  

    roymeo

    I’m not sure that picture says “confusion reigns”. Something changed, it will take people a bit of time to figure it out, especially if they don’t have enough bike symbols in the bike lane. (Assuming the super-sharrow-stripe lane on 40th St hasn’t taught drivers to drive on the green areas.)

  43.  

    roymeo

    What on earth are you talking about?
    Yes, there are people who live in the Mission. There are many businesses in the Mission. Some of those people and businesses own their property, some do not. You’re suggesting developers should pay businesses who rent to leave?

  44.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    The uphill bike lane makes good sense. The downhill one doesn’t, since I’m going to be reaching a high speed on my bicycle and don’t need to be diverted into the gutter. Also it’s a 12-foot-wide lane with no parking on that side so really there’s more than enough room for everybody.

  45.  

    Prinzrob

    I’ve seen lots of different articles on this topic citing different numbers, but this is the most comprehensive one I’ve found, and therefore the one I’m most willing to cite: http://taxfoundation.org/blog/road-spending-state-funded-user-taxes-and-fees-including-federal-gas-tax-revenues

  46.  

    Alicia

    I don’t know Alicia, why don’t you go ask them?

    So basically, business is down for someone, as mentioned in an article whose title you don’t remember, but you can’t remember the name of the person who said (s)he was losing business.

  47.  

    Mark

    There are a lot of people that live in the Mission already. If you want old businesses gone and new condos built, pay the people who’s businesses are getting wrecked.

  48.  

    Mark

    Please cite where you are getting this info. Thanks. Also, where is the sales tax (state) money going from each gallon. I get the externalities. Finally someone with an econ background.

  49.  

    Mark

    I don’t know Alicia, why don’t you go ask them? I read the article last week and percentages were given. Someone said their gross business in one of the articles was down 30-35%. Do you care? Some of these mom and pop businesses barely make it month to month. It isn’t just the businesses. Look at the neighborhoods that they have redirected traffic to. It is a mess.

  50.  

    Jeffrey Baker

    I saw a guy riding a bike share up Telegraph last week. There’s no stations in Oakland yet, right?

    Speaking of Oakland, confusion reigns on new buffered bike lane.

    https://goo.gl/photos/hGK8dtPBumaYpoZU9