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  1.  

    SweetDickD

    You’re missing the point completely- my comment is not about how economists would classify parking as a good common or public or otherwise. the point is about using the market to allocate resources. that is what is real to everyday people, not textbook econ. (I could go on and nitpick your classification within a micro-econ context about the type of good parking or libraries or whatever. that aint the point…)

  2.  

    SteveS

    Libraries are almost always non-rivalrous, except maybe for a best-seller in the first couple months after release. The fact that street space in a dense city is so highly rivalrous is what makes it a relevant political issue; in places where there is always an excess of free street parking available, it’s not an issue of debate.

  3.  

    SteveS

    Libraries are almost always non-rivalrous, except maybe for a best-seller in the first couple months after release. The fact that street space in a dense city is so highly rivalrous is what makes it a relevant political issue; in places where there is always an excess of free street parking available, it’s not an issue of debate.

  4.  

    SweetDickD

    Like the library?

  5.  

    SteveS

    Parking spaces are a textbook example of a private good: they are 100% excludable and 100% rivalrous. How did we get to the point where people talk about parking as a public good?

    A better research question would be, what is income equitability of forcing everyone to publicly fund a private good (parking), regardless of their usage of it?

  6.  

    murphstahoe

    This doesn’t even touch on the concept of “needing” to drive from say, Glen Park to Golden Gate Park in order to go to the park, when Glen Park has a very nice park right in the neighborhood.

    Having a car incites the “need” to go to far flung places simply because you can, instead of evaluating places nearer in proximity. Even if GGP was “better”, is it marginally more better than the time investment to get there and the cost investment of that travel?

  7.  

    murphstahoe

    This presumes that allocating public space for private parking is actually a “good”

  8.  

    Ryan Brady

    I disagree. Cabs are too scarce in San Francisco, and that vacuum is pulling in these other services.

  9.  

    gneiss

    Yes they have permits, but they are parking *legally*. I think the point of this blog post is about illegal parking which creates a hazard and how this shows contempt for vulnerable street users by people who should know better, not overuse of *legal* parking permits to reduce the number of available parking spaces.

  10.  

    SweetDickD

    RE: Income Equitability of SFPark: Is it a surprise that when we allow the market to allocate parking spaces, there is (economic) discrimination in the allocation of a public good?

  11.  

    mikesonn

    OMG! Stop ALL metering EVERYWHERE!

  12.  

    gneiss

    MrEricSir – No. That’s not my point at all. However, I’d bet that most people think it’s safer to be in a car without a seat beat than outside walking along a busy street next to speeding cars.

    The fact that 2 adults need to travel with 9 children in a car (some of whom could be out on their own) shows how badly we’ve failed families and children in particular in providing them with places where they could get around without needing a car.

  13.  

    Sebra Leaves

    Captured a block of cars with MTA permits parked near Jackson Square:
    http://wp.me/p2aXEz-17g

  14.  

    MrEricSir

    If “safe” involves not only driving a car but also involves skipping a seatbelt, I have bad news about your definition of “safe.”

  15.  

    Rob Anderson

    I’d say nothing at all. Maybe you’re thinking of the SFMTA, which is a different agency. But the city would have saved a lot of money if it had just done the legally required environmental review of the Bicycle Plan in the first place.

  16.  

    gneiss

    As usual, Stanley Roberts looks at the issue superficially. The deeper problem is how families on the edge are cutting corners or impoverishing themselves trying to hang on to their cars because for them, there is no other safe or reliable transportation option.

  17.  

    peternatural

    By that logic, why don’t blue collar workers just park right in the middle of the street and block traffic when they have to go to the bathroom or get a donut? After all, being “blue collar” means the rules don’t apply to you, right?

  18.  

    Anonymous

    Rob, how much do you think you persoanly have cost the SFCTA in terms of wasted staff time over the years? I’d say it’s more than $1500.

  19.  

    Mike

    My number one problem is yuppies stealing food out of working peoples’ mouths. Real cabbies barely break even as it is, and half of them have to commute for hours just for the privilege of driving San Franciscans around.

    Safety is my number two problem.

    At all times, apply the correct dialectic.

  20.  

    Rob Anderson

    Turns out that the video wasn’t entirely free, since the SFCTA wasted $1,500 in labor to produce it:

    Dear Mr. Anderson,

    Thank you for your inquiry about the the Authority’s
    video: “A coffee shop encounter with a transportation planner.” This video was produced as a part of outreach activities the Authority conducted in support of the San Francisco Transportation Plan (SFTP) in 2011.The goal of the video was to raise awareness and public involvement in the SFTP, which by its nature is somewhat complex and jargon-filled, but which also relies on broad and deep public input for the identification of transportation needs and investment strategies. As a result, we strive to make the work accessible and engaging to the public.

    The video was created using a free video platform,
    Xtranormal.The only costs incurred to produce the video were the Authority’s SFTP team staff time and and some support from outreach consultants.Because
    the time was bundled together with time for many other outreach activities, we can only estimate the cost in staff time at approximately $1500.

    Please contact Tilly Chang, Deputy Director for Planning, at 522-4832 with any questions you may have.

    Regards,

    Maria Lombardo
    Interim Executive Director
    San Francisco County Transportation Authority
    1455 Market Street,22nd Floor
    San Francisco,CA 94103

  21.  

    Ryan Brady

    Yeah, this is my number one problem with the ‘ride-share’ services.

  22.  

    Ryan Brady

    Nah, that’ll just get you a felony vandalism arrest.

  23.  

    Mike

    I was doored by a Lyft driver’s passenger a few months ago.

    Perhaps if he was properly licensed as a cabbie and had some actual training, instead of being a yuppie moonlighting as a cabbie, he would have know not to let his passenger out right in the middle of a traffic lane on Market St.

    Lyft drivers also haven’t got the “texting while driving” memo. Or really any other memo for that matter.

  24.  

    Mike

    An excellent video. Gets the most important points across:

    • some of the most “annoying” things bicyclists do are for our own safety
    • some bicyclists do incredibly unsafe things, and you’d better watch out

  25.  

    Anonymous

    Inadequate vehicles? A can of paint, some brushes, and a MUNI pass should suffice.

  26.  

    Todd Edelman

    Are “Google Bus” or “pink mustache” drivers seeing this video? In recent years in SF, how many bus vs. bike collisions have resulted in cyclist deaths or serious injuries? How many bus vs. bike collisions have also involved a private car, e.g. with a driver opening a door in a too-narrow bike lane?

  27.  

    Anonymous

    Can we be sure this is a budget shortfall issue? I’m hoping to silence the voices in my head screaming “managerial incompetence”

  28.  

    guest

    Go by the MTA building on Van Ness and market some day. In that area you will find just about 2 out of 3 cars has a handicapped placard in the window, yet there are mysteriously no senior centers around. I once saw one of the fare inspectors getting out of his car, (big, young guy) with a handicapped placard in the window. Of course the MTA people won’t give themselves or their co-workers tickets..think about it

  29.  

    peternatural

    “I need to make an emergency stop at this Starbucks!”

  30.  

    Anonymous

    I was just thinking about how I could ride one of the bikes from my house up on a hill down to work.

  31.  

    guest

    Easy solution. Daylight each and every intersection in this city. Should’ve been done a long time ago. If a unit needs to park in the red zone once in a while, so be it.

  32.  

    guest

    Note that Aaron says the cruiser is parked ‘obnoxiously,’ not ‘illegally.’ We all know that, re what you said about the panhandle path. Doesn’t mean that SFPD can’t be considerate enough to dispatch a motorcycle or bike cop to that location, though.

  33.  

    mikesonn

  34.  

    mikesonn

    I will. But road was just repaved…

  35.  

    lyqwyd

    Great news on correcting bicycle helmet misinformation!

  36.  

    x.trapnel

    The front “racks” are an inexcusable mistake. They look identical to the ones in the DC bikeshare bikes, and those are useless. It’s not like they were trying to save weight here–just put a full-size basket it. “Fits more than a basket”–are they joking?

  37.  

    murphstahoe

    What?

    If this was to placate the techies the service map would match the Google bus stops. I don’t see any stations in the Mission/Noe/Bernal/Glem/Marina at all.

  38.  

    Anonymous

    The recently passed north fair oaks specific plan has a road diet for middlefield. It will need outreach & funding. Contact me re local advocacy

  39.  

    Mark Dreger

    But seriously, really curious as to what they stripe back. Saw the work zone marked out on Market today – all that green paint and soft-hits are going to be ground away. Are they going to take the opportunity to try out new designs or just put back what was there (if that)?

  40.  

    Anonymous

    The rude parking by police for non-emergencies is still better than the excessive speed and aggressive acceleration for non-emergencies I see every day.

  41.  

    mikesonn

    Maybe if we combine forces!

  42.  

    Mario Tanev

    Interesting difference in perception. With very high probability, drivers on Valencia are very understanding. Some idiots try to pass me when I take the lane by going into the opposite direction lane, and then they realize there is no point and have to merge back in behind me. But I haven’t been honked at on Valencia for many years, even though Valencia is dodge-double-parked-car territory.

  43.  

    NOMAD

    I just had a look at the service area map. Mostly South of Market. This is yet another sop thrown to placate the techies, who get it all anyway.

  44.  

    Sean Rea

    I wish they would repave the Folsom St. bike path.

  45.  

    mikesonn

    Yesterday on Valencia, car double parked in bike lane. I move to take the lane and taxi behind me goes ballistic on the horn. I turn around, shrug and point at the double parker. I’m not the one inconveniencing you, the driver in the bike lane is.

    I ride down the Peninsula several times a week from SF and rarely (probably closer to never) have that sort of reaction from drivers.

  46.  

    Mario Tanev

    I hate riding on Ralston. Generally I hate the peninsula except where there are bike lanes. At least in San Francisco a lot of drivers accept bicycle riders taking a full lane where necessary. Whenever I do that on the peninsula and in the South Bay, I constantly get honked at, threatened and intimidated. Some such memories are deeply ingrained from the only time I ever rode on Ralston, trying to get from the bay trail to the Sawyer Camp trail.

  47.  

    Aaron Bialick

    That’s where it’s supposed to go :)

  48.  

    mikesonn

    Yeah, Deleted it. My mistake. Moar coffee now. Sorry.

  49.  

    Anonymous

    The panhandle multi-use path is actually wide enough for police and park service vehicles to drive on, and I was told once that it was engineered to take the weight of that, as well. The cop is pulled over to the side, clearly allowing bike and ped traffic to go around. That officer is also NOT parked on the grass, which does cause safety hazards by cutting ruts in the shoulder of the path.

  50.  

    Faded_seaside

    In Berkeley at least I’ve noticed that red zones are de facto Police parking zones.