This week we're joined once again by Christof Spieler who recently wrote a new book, "Trains, Buses, People." Christof talks about how transit isn't a mystery and we all know what makes it work. But ultimately we're not having the right conversations. We also review Christof's time on the Houston Metro board and why it’s important to have people who ride the bus and think about it all the time as a part of the agency discussion.
Also, if you're in New York next month, check us out at the Brooklyn Podcast Festival on Jan. 12. To learn more and get tickets click here. The Smart Cities series includes episodes from Sidewalk Labs, CityLab, and us here at Talking Headways. Join us!
