Today’s Headlines

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  • Fare evader crackdown? Too funny. Not moments ago at the Embarcadero station a youth jumps the fare gate upon exit (makes sense because he clearly didn’t pay to go in), a dazed POP woman wearing her yellow vest of authority calls after him “Stop! You can’t do that!” Kid runs by two officers who don’t notice anything happening because, well, they were chatting (probably about how much OT they can get that week for doing nothing). Multiply this by hundreds if not thousands each day and you wonder why fare evaders are beating the system.

  • david vartanoff

    As opposed to the couple who used the single elevator from the street to the platform–bypassing the fare mezzanine–at Balboa when I was there yesterday. One might ask at what location these POP checkers go on shift, why they aren’t to be seen outside the downtown areas?

  • In the 8+ months since I started using the Balboa Park BART station for my daily commutes I have never, ever seen one POP or police person on site. What have seen is fare evaders every single day, especially at the Ocean Ave end of the station. Come on, it’s not like BART isn’t encouraging them not to pay…the gates at the handicap fare gate don’t even close properly so it’s just a matter of squeezing through. Or, people just blatantly stroll through the emergency gate because they know there isn’t an alarm to sound.

    Take lessons from the NYC subway and view every rider as potential fare evader. Sadly, this is the world we live in. If you can’t change people’s behavior build a better mousetrap. Design your fare gates to make it extremely difficult to get through unless fare is paid.

  • jonobate

    “Take lessons from the NYC subway and view every rider as potential fare evader.”

    Counterpoint – take lessons from Europe and treat ever rider as a valued customer. Remove the faregates and use roving POP inspectors to enforce fare compliance.

    With this strategy, you’ll probably end up with more fare evaders, but you’ll actually save money overall because you won’t need to pay station agents to sit in their booths all day at stations with low ridership.

  • david vartanoff

    Well, in fact was out that way again today–no POP checkers, but after a longer than normal dwell, 5 or 6 fare checkers boarded at West Oakland. Rather than splitting up they worked as a group in each car as we went through the tube. Clearly, as I was near the back of a 9 car train, they would not have made it to the front cars before EMB.

  • david vartanoff

    Booth occupants (a more accurate term) should, emulating CTA, be encouraged to be out and about within the stations As to getting rid of them altogether, no, an actual human CAN be useful although most BART booth occupants don’t make much effort.

  • Jeffrey Baker

    BART already has better farebox recovery than NYC.

  • p_chazz

    That’s not saying much.

  • I’m not talking farebox recovery. I’m talking fare evaders cheating the system. If you’re fine with riders not paying their fare then so be it. I would say the majority of riders, as well as BART, is not happy about. So unhappy that BART clearly sees this as a major problem, including missed revenues at, guess what, the farebox.

  • Richard Mlynarik

    view every rider as potential fare evader.

    Charming.

    So, what is the problem you are attempting to solve here, exactly. Exactly.

    What is the “problem” costing? Costing, exactly

    What does your “solution” cost? Exactly

    Does your “solution” solve the “problem”?

    Does your “solution” solve the “problem” in a remotely effective fashion? Show your work!

    Does your “solution” solve any “problem”?

    Does your “solution” solve any “problem” that exists outside an outraged “somebody somewhere is getting away with something and must be stopped at all costs ” mentality?

  • I see our favorite troll is back. Go away.

  • It’s a combination of improvements, including having BART police patrol and station agents actually working. Far too often the booths are empty. This morning at the Embarcadero station I counted 8 officers standing around talking with each other in a couple sections on the mezzanine, a few on their phones, and one chatting wildly with a station agent who was standing outside his booth and completely inaccessible to the person on the other side of the booth waiting.