Today’s Headlines

  • More on Noah Budnick’s Resignation From SFBC and Upcoming Board Elections (SFist, KQED)
  • Video: Tour Bus Crash Captured on Surveillance Cameras (SFist, Weekly, Magazine, Kron4CBS, NBC)
  • Driver Injures 75-Year-Old Woman Walking in Monterey Heights Crosswalk (Gate, NBC)
  • Bay Area Bike Share 24-Hour Passes Are Free Today (BABS)
  • SFMTA Approves Wiggle Neighborhood Green Corridor Pedestrian Improvements (Hoodline)
  • SFMTA’s Curb Management Workshop Targets Double Parking on Upper Market Street (Hoodline)
  • BART Board Eliminates Late Night AC Transit Bus Route 822, San Francisco to Pittsburg (SFBay)
  • BART Board Unlikely to Drop Criminal Charges Against Black Lives Matter Protesters (Exam, CBS, ABC)
  • Tanker Truck Driver Eric Alexander Killed in Five-Vehicle Crash on Highway 37 (IJ, Kron4)
  • Murder Trial of Wrong-Way Highway 17 Driver Who Killed Santa Cruz Mother in 2011 Begins (Merc)

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  • david vartanoff

    On Late night AC buses. The 822 wasn’t well known, and as with any new service there is a lag in usage because people need to believe it will still be therewhen they plan to use it. Given the MTC controlled funding wasted on other issues, the few thousands necessary to keep the 822 running through the next 6 months to see if ridership grows.

  • jonobate

    No, this was the right decision. East of the hills there simply isn’t enough potential ridership to justify running a night bus all the way out to Pittsburg/Bay Point.

    The funds are better spent on improving frequency and marketing on the other AC Transit night bus routes. Extending the 801 to SF would be nice, as well.

  • Andy Chow

    Late night is a hit or miss. As much as some people want more late night option, it is difficult to build ridership since a lot of people do not go to San Francisco regularly when they leave at these hours. A lot of folks also prefer door to door service. The rise of TNCs also take a lot of the potential riders away.

    I thought that the 822 should’ve been able to stop at all BART stations, rather than just picking a few.

  • Flatlander

    I think that’s part of what you need though – you need for it to stop at all BART stations so that people know exactly where it will go. It’s much harder to use if you’re just an occasional rider if you have to think or look something up to figure out if it will be useful to you.

  • jonobate

    Yep. BART might have done better paying a different agency to run BART-branded buses that ran the three off-peak lines at 30 min frequencies, stopping at every BART station and only every BART station, with the usual timed transfers. This would have been much more legible and might have been used by exurban riders who wouldn’t think about using AC transit buses.

  • Gezellig

    With the prestige BART enjoys amongst Bay Areans I’m surprised this phenomenon doesn’t really exist. Even exurban residents of, say, Pleasanton or Concord who have no idea what their bus transit agency is know about BART and generally like it.

    As I’ve mentioned before this concept could be carried further into rebranding Caltrain as the Big BART, especially upon (little) BART’s eventual arrival to San Jose. You’ll all of a sudden get that psychologically important map of BART ringing the Bay. Bam. Done.

    Even further–once the Dumbarton rail bridge finally happens it can be Big BART: The Dumbarton Line:

  • jonobate


    Given that we probably can’t merge all the transit agencies together into one big one, it would at least be good to see one regional rapid transit agency that consists of BART, Caltrain, the ferries, and regional BRT service to fill in the gaps not covered by the other agencies. This BRT service would look like a beefed up version of the AC Transit Transbay or Golden Gate Transit buses, and would only stop at ‘stations’ spaced at a similar distance to rail stations. BART have already proposed something similar for the I-680 corridor; a regional rapid transit agency could provide this on all the major freeway corridors.

  • Andy Chow

    I doubt it will make much difference. The service is not frequent nor regular enough for anyone to provide a dedicated vehicle (not used for any other routes). May be if we are talking about the old days when there was BART Express service, then it would be smart to use the BART-branded buses for these trips.

    AC does have nicer buses (green Gillig or MCI for transbay commuter routes) but they are not used on the overnight runs.

  • Andy Chow

    In many regions, transit agencies are intermodal (operate bus and rail), so in certain agencies, their BRT lines are essentially elevated and given the same designation at other rail lines. (LA Metro Orange and Silver lines, and MBTA Silver line).