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  • Peter M

    Direct link to the page for the TEP Draft EIR: http://www.sf-planning.org/index.aspx?page=2970

    I noticed something noteworthy in it that I haven’t seen anywhere else:

    The 30 and 45 are going to be permanently routed from 4th to 5th Street between Harrison and Townsend once the Central Subway opens.

  • • If you hurry up and join Bay Area Bike Share, you’ll get a limited edition black electronic key. Which might be a solution for folks who don’t like sea foam green.

  • NBC Bay Area covered the rally for Monique Porsandeh, who was seriously injured in a hit-and-run in February:

    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/on-air/as-seen-on/215461111.html

  • Just signed up. Member #141!

  • I somehow forgot to include that link, but we should have full coverage tomorrow anyway.

  • jimmy

    I signed up but can’t really see myself using this system: the service area in SF is tiny (Civic Center, FiDi, SOMA and North Beach) Many people commute *to* that area but not *in* it.

    The other cities are even more of a joke…

  • Bruce Halperin

    When the CS opens the 30 and 45 should be routed along the current 41 route to the Transbay Terminal.

  • Andy Chow

    The reroute is south of the freeway which is where the Central Subway becomes at grade. Rerouting to 5th makes the intersection at 4th & Townsend less complicated for both bus and rail.

  • Anonymous

    even less complicated – terminate them at Washington and have people get on the CS?

  • als

    Why are we screwing ferry commuters while giving free transport to the rental bike companies? Make them leave the rental bikes in Sausalito and let the rental bike companies transport them back to San Francisco.

  • vcs2

    The 30 is one of those busses that people like to ride for 2-3 blocks. That group is never going to use the subway.

  • Anonymous

    IRONY! BRILLIANT!

  • mikesonn

    YES! Have the rental companies park a truck in the parking lot and return the bikes themselves. Then the tourists can get dropped at the Ferry Building and not have to worry about finding their way back to the store they rented from by a certain time as well.

  • mikesonn

    One station at Broadway and Columbus doesn’t equal North Beach.

  • mikesonn

    Wrong!!!!

  • mikesonn

    Thank you for pointing that out. What a joke.

  • mikesonn

    Nope.

  • Richard Mlynarik

    First, how are ferry commuters “being screwed”, exactly?

    Second, what makes commuting — which is 100% a voluntary recreational activity (should you care to examine your prejudices and assumptions carefully) — any more of a valid use of a jaunty expensive pleasure yacht than going for a bike ride across the bridge and sailing back to SF?

    The only difference is that one class of recreational subsidized boat users does it several times a week, while the other does it once in a lifetime.

  • Bruce Halperin

    Why not? If the CS already goes to Caltrain (and a North Beach station is eventually built as a transfer point), then why would anyone choose to ride the 30 or 45 to Caltrain over the Central Subway?

  • mikesonn

    “North Beach station is eventually built”

    In what, 2030? Also, many people from north of Washington St take the 30/45 to Caltrain and AT&T Park. Asking them to either add 5+ min to their trip or transfer at Chinatown (which is 90+’ underground) is ridiculous.

  • Bruce Halperin

    I’m one of those people. I’d take a 5-minute underground transfer over a 15-minute slog on Stockton Street any day.

  • mikesonn

    More power to you, that 5-min underground transfer also depends on a train being there waiting for you, best of luck with that.

  • Andy Chow

    All of those riders pay a fare to ride the ferry, so shouldn’t it be a good thing to have an influx of customers? Adding another ferry to handle the crowd is no more different than Caltrain running special trains for the Giants and BART running more service for Bay to Breakers.

  • Andy Chow

    If your reasoning applies, then Muni should’ve shortened route 5, 6, 9, 21, 31, 71 at Civic Center rather than having them going all the way to downtown via Market. All those folks can ride the J, K, L, M, N, T underground.

  • Andy Chow

    A lot of times the location of bus terminus is determined by the ability to layover by multiple buses and allow rest break for bus drivers. There’s no suitable space along the route through Chinatown and Downtown without putting up new wires, taking away a lot of parking, and stirring up a lot of controversy.

  • Anonymous

    Anything that results in “more ferries” is a good thing,