Open Thread: How Would You Do Intersection Markings?

SFMTA official wants your feedback on road signage; we want to know how you would fix things at intersections

Mike Sallaberry of SFMTA's livable streets division‎ posted this pic on social media to solicit comments on intersection treatments
Mike Sallaberry of SFMTA's livable streets division‎ posted this pic on social media to solicit comments on intersection treatments

What markings and street constructions cause you the most consternation?

That’s what SFMTA is trying to find out. Michael Sallaberry, from the agency’s Livable Streets division, posted the question on Facebook’s San Francisco Bike Ride Crew page. The example he gave in the post, as seen in the lead image, was a photo of “shark teeth” yield markers at an intersection in SoMa.

From his post:

SFMTA is working on some videos explaining new roadway markings, signs, and signals. Is there anything in particular that you see on the street that is confusing? We’re doing a video on “yield triangles,” for instance, like those in the picture. Anything else you think could use explaining, especially to drivers? We’ll be doing videos for bicyclists and pedestrians later too.

Streetsblog’s initial thought was that Sallaberry definitely picked the right treatment–the infamous mixing zone and its yield triangles–as an example of a marking that confuses people. Our second thought was: if you have to make videos explaining how to read a sign or use an intersection, you’re doing it wrong. Streetsblog tipster Ziggy Tomcich wrote more or less the same thing, a bit less diplomatically, in a comment on the Facebook thread:

Streets should be designed so that it’s instinctively obvious what drivers should do. Making ambiguous intersection markings without any signage, and making a video that nobody will watch, is a dumb f*ck approach to street safety.

At intersections, what to do must be clear to motorists, pedestrians, and cyclists; intersections are where, more often than anywhere else, people die.

That’s the idea behind Dutch-style protected intersections: even if a motorist doesn’t understand the shark teeth or any of the other signs, the concrete on the ground forces them to slow down and make wide turns, maximizing opportunities to spot a cyclist or pedestrian and hit the brakes before a disaster. And if a motorist still doesn’t get it, they bump a protective concrete traffic island instead of hitting a person.

Those concrete islands also keep people from parking in ways that obstruct sightlines and render any signage almost irrelevant. Streetsblog New York’s David Meyer wrote this great piece about those issues–it includes a video of a cyclist going down in a poorly designed mixing zone that will seem familiar to San Franciscans.

Mike Sallaberry. Project Manager at SFMTA's Livable Streets, riding SF's only protected intersection in 2016 when it opened. Photo: Streetsblog/Rudick
Mike Sallaberry, Project Manager at SFMTA’s Livable Streets, riding SF’s only protected intersection in 2016 when it opened. Notice the two pedestrians standing together on the protective island that forces cars to make wider, slower turns. Photo: Streetsblog/Rudick

This much is clear–cyclists are generally not happy with intersection treatments in SoMa or on the new section of protected bike lane on Valencia. Fully protected intersections are the gold standard, but seem to be off in the future for some reason.

So what can we do in the meantime? Can we improve signs and emulate some of the features of a protected intersection in the short term, such as Portland did in the intersection pictured below, where a planter substitutes for the protective island?

A heavy concrete planter is one way to make a crossing safer without waiting for new pavement. Seen here in Portland, Oregon. Photo: Streetsblog/Rudick
A heavy concrete planter can emulate some aspects of a protected intersection by forcing motorists to slow and make more careful turns–or bash up their car. Seen here in Portland, Oregon. Photo: Streetsblog/Rudick

What do you think? Post your thoughts below.

ALSO ON STREETSBLOG

SFMTA Takes Public Input to Make SoMa Safer

|
Last night, SFMTA held an open house at the Bayanihan Community Center in the Mission to get input on the 7th and 8th Streets safety project, which will include parking-protected bike lanes on both streets on the six-block stretch between Market and Folsom. Some 45 people showed up to learn about the designs and give […]

Misguided Enforcement Precedes ThinkBike Improvements on the Wiggle

|
The Wiggle — the growingly popular, mostly-flat bicycling route connecting SF’s eastern and western neighborhoods — should become more bike-friendly in the next year. After consulting with Dutch bicycle planners, the SFMTA is planning new upgrades to increase the safety and comfort of people walking and biking on the route, including “green-backed” sharrows, zebra-striped crosswalks, […]